Discussion:
Looked at my 'TQQQ' today and nearly fainted! /s
(too old to reply)
-hh
2022-01-10 17:11:06 UTC
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Time to check the performance of ARNA relative to TQQQ, which Tommy
recommended instead of ARNA...

YTD / ARNA: unch. ($93.2 to $93.2 interday)
YTD / TQQQ: -20% ($170 to $135 interday)

Next up: "catch a falling knife" recommendations!


-hh
TomS
2022-01-11 03:52:58 UTC
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Post by -hh
Time to check the performance of ARNA relative to TQQQ, which Tommy
recommended instead of ARNA...
YTD / ARNA: unch. ($93.2 to $93.2 interday)
YTD / TQQQ: -20% ($170 to $135 interday)
Next up: "catch a falling knife" recommendations!
-hh
Hey Lyin' Asshole, you better check the last 1 year performance.
-hh
2022-01-11 04:42:01 UTC
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Post by TomS
Post by -hh
Time to check the performance of ARNA relative to TQQQ, which Tommy
recommended instead of ARNA...
YTD / ARNA: unch. ($93.2 to $93.2 interday)
YTD / TQQQ: -20% ($170 to $135 interday)
Next up: "catch a falling knife" recommendations!
Hey Lyin' Asshole, you better check the last 1 year performance.
Oh, you mean where a full third of that paper gain has been wiped out
in just two weeks?

In any event, the past is the past and you've not been making any "buy today!"
or "sell today!" posts to show your prowess. That's why I've noted that you
might try to gamble to catch the current falling knife again.

Of course, NASDAQ's tech sector generally is disfavored in a rising interest
rate environment, so one shouldn't be too surprised if 2022 has less potential
upside (or more losses) than during the 2020/21 era of QE expansions. As
such, is TQQQ currently a "buy"? Likewise, what are your predictions for
someone who's has TQQQ from 2021 from at/hear its high for how long they're
likely have to wait until they're no longer underwater? Days? Weeks? Months?
Longer?

Or are you 'bravely' going to be silent on tangible stuff, so as to not have your
pretend stock trader claims get completely blown up in your face again?


-hh
TomS
2022-01-11 05:07:41 UTC
Permalink
Post by -hh
Post by TomS
Post by -hh
Time to check the performance of ARNA relative to TQQQ, which Tommy
recommended instead of ARNA...
YTD / ARNA: unch. ($93.2 to $93.2 interday)
YTD / TQQQ: -20% ($170 to $135 interday)
Next up: "catch a falling knife" recommendations!
Hey Lyin' Asshole, you better check the last 1 year performance.
Oh, you mean where a full third of that paper gain has been wiped out
in just two weeks?
In any event, the past is the past and you've not been making any "buy today!"
or "sell today!" posts to show your prowess. That's why I've noted that you
might try to gamble to catch the current falling knife again.
Of course, NASDAQ's tech sector generally is disfavored in a rising interest
rate environment, so one shouldn't be too surprised if 2022 has less potential
upside (or more losses) than during the 2020/21 era of QE expansions. As
such, is TQQQ currently a "buy"? Likewise, what are your predictions for
someone who's has TQQQ from 2021 from at/hear its high for how long they're
likely have to wait until they're no longer underwater? Days? Weeks? Months?
Longer?
Or are you 'bravely' going to be silent on tangible stuff, so as to not have your
pretend stock trader claims get completely blown up in your face again?
-hh
This is an exercise to see WHO's buy recommendation was better - yours or mine. Clearly, mine was better, and has been better on any reasonable time frame.
TomS
2022-01-11 05:10:30 UTC
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Post by TomS
Post by -hh
Post by TomS
Post by -hh
Time to check the performance of ARNA relative to TQQQ, which Tommy
recommended instead of ARNA...
YTD / ARNA: unch. ($93.2 to $93.2 interday)
YTD / TQQQ: -20% ($170 to $135 interday)
Next up: "catch a falling knife" recommendations!
Hey Lyin' Asshole, you better check the last 1 year performance.
Oh, you mean where a full third of that paper gain has been wiped out
in just two weeks?
In any event, the past is the past and you've not been making any "buy today!"
or "sell today!" posts to show your prowess. That's why I've noted that you
might try to gamble to catch the current falling knife again.
Of course, NASDAQ's tech sector generally is disfavored in a rising interest
rate environment, so one shouldn't be too surprised if 2022 has less potential
upside (or more losses) than during the 2020/21 era of QE expansions. As
such, is TQQQ currently a "buy"? Likewise, what are your predictions for
someone who's has TQQQ from 2021 from at/hear its high for how long they're
likely have to wait until they're no longer underwater? Days? Weeks? Months?
Longer?
Or are you 'bravely' going to be silent on tangible stuff, so as to not have your
pretend stock trader claims get completely blown up in your face again?
-hh
This is an exercise to see WHO's buy recommendation was better - yours or mine. Clearly, mine was better, and has been better on any reasonable time frame.
Also, I am in a holding pattern right now. With the Fed announcing rate hikes I see more volatility ahead, although I did buy INTC recently.
-hh
2022-01-11 13:28:33 UTC
Permalink
Post by TomS
Post by TomS
Post by -hh
Post by TomS
Post by -hh
Time to check the performance of ARNA relative to TQQQ, which Tommy
recommended instead of ARNA...
YTD / ARNA: unch. ($93.2 to $93.2 interday)
YTD / TQQQ: -20% ($170 to $135 interday)
Next up: "catch a falling knife" recommendations!
Hey Lyin' Asshole, you better check the last 1 year performance.
Oh, you mean where a full third of that paper gain has been wiped out
in just two weeks?
In any event, the past is the past and you've not been making any "buy today!"
or "sell today!" posts to show your prowess. That's why I've noted that you
might try to gamble to catch the current falling knife again.
Of course, NASDAQ's tech sector generally is disfavored in a rising interest
rate environment, so one shouldn't be too surprised if 2022 has less potential
upside (or more losses) than during the 2020/21 era of QE expansions. As
such, is TQQQ currently a "buy"? Likewise, what are your predictions for
someone who's has TQQQ from 2021 from at/hear its high for how long they're
likely have to wait until they're no longer underwater? Days? Weeks? Months?
Longer?
Or are you 'bravely' going to be silent on tangible stuff, so as to not have your
pretend stock trader claims get completely blown up in your face again?
This is an exercise to see WHO's buy recommendation was better - yours
or mine.
No, that's not what it has been.

You'd tried to brag for years about how you're so savvy and profitable/etc, but
you just never showed that by publicly committing to a trade where you
explicitly telegraphed in advance, to prove that you weren't BS'ing after-the-fact.
Post by TomS
Clearly, mine was better, and has been better on any reasonable time frame.
Oh, you've allegedly done a few short sprints - - never documented, per above,
but let's actually go check the archives to see if there ever was an dick-waiving
contest:

Back to Sep 12, 2019 [8:04:42 PM]

hh>> For example, let’s hear your investment prognosis on another pharma, ARNA.
TS> Would not touch ARNA - no products for sale, missed last two
TS> earnings estimates, stock chart looks horrible, and analysts
TS> mostly have SELL ratings on it.

<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.sport.golf/c/yhHlqMZnqVs/m/o_1lm_vmAAAJ>


So what was my comment? Here it is, later in the same thread:

"Oh, you’ve already made it obvious that you don’t hold. I find it interesting
that the stock has such consistent buy recommendations despite what looks
like nothing much, and has a lot of institutionals holding it. The question
seems to be if they go on a tear of product approvals to sell and it pops to
$500. Even so, a +300% (paper) gain over the past three years isn’t too shabby..."

<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.sport.golf/c/yhHlqMZnqVs/m/ZEQ6mj_ZAQAJ>

So revisiting Tom's current claim:
"Clearly, mine was better, and has been better on any reasonable time frame"

Well, at that date it was at $51 and now its at $94, so that's a +84% gain
over ~3.3 years without any fees. But more significantly, the observation
that institutionals were following its potential was spot-on, as illustrated
by PFE's buyout offer.

Now YMMV on what constitutes a "reasonable" time frame, but for investing
and not gambling, that's longer term, so considering the cited buy 3 years
prior, that would have been at ~$16 which goes to ~$100 via PFE and
assuming a stock swap (this AM: $56.50 w/ 2.84% dividend), that means
that on per $10K basis, $01K/$16 = 62.5 shares *$100 = $62,500; divided
$56.5 buys 1106 shares of PFE, whose dividends are $1.60/share-year
for $1,769.60/yr.

So based on an original investment of just $10K, that's an effective +17.696%
dividend rate of return ... and dividends from a blue chip are safe & passive,
as well as have zero monthly expense fees.
Post by TomS
Also, I am in a holding pattern right now. With the Fed announcing rate hikes
I see more volatility ahead, although I did buy INTC recently.
Tech tends to carry more debt which will be downward pressure on
that sector as interest rates rise; looking at debt ratios can provide
insight too; looks like INTC is a bit better than QCOM (~2.1 vs 1.6)
for example.

My own moves have been to change out some of bond funds to
reduce exposure to higher rates depressing them, as well as shop
for dividend stocks for in a Roth, plus some other things. A higher
risk move was to buy $5K of AT&T (T) short term @ $24.906 for its
presently very high dividend (8%), as the Market's expecting them to
cut their dividend as they've been selling off assets/etc. Others on
the table with a goal of diversification, stability and income generation
currently include: BCE, BBY, CVX, ED, ENB, JNJ, LMT, NVS, VTRS.


-hh
-hh
2022-01-13 14:57:50 UTC
Permalink
Post by -hh
Post by TomS
Post by TomS
Post by -hh
Post by TomS
Post by -hh
Time to check the performance of ARNA relative to TQQQ, which Tommy
recommended instead of ARNA...
YTD / ARNA: unch. ($93.2 to $93.2 interday)
YTD / TQQQ: -20% ($170 to $135 interday)
Next up: "catch a falling knife" recommendations!
Hey Lyin' Asshole, you better check the last 1 year performance.
Oh, you mean where a full third of that paper gain has been wiped out
in just two weeks?
In any event, the past is the past and you've not been making any "buy today!"
or "sell today!" posts to show your prowess. That's why I've noted that you
might try to gamble to catch the current falling knife again.
Of course, NASDAQ's tech sector generally is disfavored in a rising interest
rate environment, so one shouldn't be too surprised if 2022 has less potential
upside (or more losses) than during the 2020/21 era of QE expansions. As
such, is TQQQ currently a "buy"? Likewise, what are your predictions for
someone who's has TQQQ from 2021 from at/hear its high for how long they're
likely have to wait until they're no longer underwater? Days? Weeks? Months?
Longer?
Or are you 'bravely' going to be silent on tangible stuff, so as to not have your
pretend stock trader claims get completely blown up in your face again?
This is an exercise to see WHO's buy recommendation was better - yours
or mine.
No, that's not what it has been.
You'd tried to brag for years about how you're so savvy and profitable/etc, but
you just never showed that by publicly committing to a trade where you
explicitly telegraphed in advance, to prove that you weren't BS'ing after-the-fact.
Post by TomS
Clearly, mine was better, and has been better on any reasonable time frame.
Oh, you've allegedly done a few short sprints - - never documented, per above,
but let's actually go check the archives to see if there ever was an dick-waiving
Back to Sep 12, 2019 [8:04:42 PM]
hh>> For example, let’s hear your investment prognosis on another pharma, ARNA.
TS> Would not touch ARNA - no products for sale, missed last two
TS> earnings estimates, stock chart looks horrible, and analysts
TS> mostly have SELL ratings on it.
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.sport.golf/c/yhHlqMZnqVs/m/o_1lm_vmAAAJ>
"Oh, you’ve already made it obvious that you don’t hold. I find it interesting
that the stock has such consistent buy recommendations despite what looks
like nothing much, and has a lot of institutionals holding it. The question
seems to be if they go on a tear of product approvals to sell and it pops to
$500. Even so, a +300% (paper) gain over the past three years isn’t too shabby..."
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.sport.golf/c/yhHlqMZnqVs/m/ZEQ6mj_ZAQAJ>
"Clearly, mine was better, and has been better on any reasonable time frame"
Well, at that date it was at $51 and now its at $94, so that's a +84% gain
over ~3.3 years without any fees. But more significantly, the observation
that institutionals were following its potential was spot-on, as illustrated
by PFE's buyout offer.
Now YMMV on what constitutes a "reasonable" time frame, but for investing
and not gambling, that's longer term, so considering the cited buy 3 years
prior, that would have been at ~$16 which goes to ~$100 via PFE and
assuming a stock swap (this AM: $56.50 w/ 2.84% dividend), that means
that on per $10K basis, $01K/$16 = 62.5 shares *$100 = $62,500; divided
$56.5 buys 1106 shares of PFE, whose dividends are $1.60/share-year
for $1,769.60/yr.
So based on an original investment of just $10K, that's an effective +17.696%
dividend rate of return ... and dividends from a blue chip are safe & passive,
as well as have zero monthly expense fees.
Post by TomS
Also, I am in a holding pattern right now. With the Fed announcing rate hikes
I see more volatility ahead, although I did buy INTC recently.
Tech tends to carry more debt which will be downward pressure on
that sector as interest rates rise; looking at debt ratios can provide
insight too; looks like INTC is a bit better than QCOM (~2.1 vs 1.6)
for example.
In looking back at INTC, looks like its price took a hit when Apple's
M1 Pro / M1 Max CPUs were announced last October...it has basically
just finally crawled its way back up from that. Since rumors are that
Apple has some new Macs coming out in probably March, if there's
another CPU along with them, that may repeat this sort of reaction
with Intel; could be a buying opportunity that results in a better
dividend yield along with potential capital appreciation (aka 'recovery').
Post by -hh
My own moves have been to change out some of bond funds to
reduce exposure to higher rates depressing them, as well as shop
for dividend stocks for in a Roth, plus some other things. A higher
presently very high dividend (8%), as the Market's expecting them to
cut their dividend as they've been selling off assets/etc. Others on
the table with a goal of diversification, stability and income generation
currently include: BCE, BBY, CVX, ED, ENB, JNJ, LMT, NVS, VTRS.
-hh
TomS
2022-01-13 22:46:05 UTC
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Post by -hh
Post by -hh
Post by TomS
Post by TomS
Post by -hh
Post by TomS
Post by -hh
Time to check the performance of ARNA relative to TQQQ, which Tommy
recommended instead of ARNA...
YTD / ARNA: unch. ($93.2 to $93.2 interday)
YTD / TQQQ: -20% ($170 to $135 interday)
Next up: "catch a falling knife" recommendations!
Hey Lyin' Asshole, you better check the last 1 year performance.
Oh, you mean where a full third of that paper gain has been wiped out
in just two weeks?
In any event, the past is the past and you've not been making any "buy today!"
or "sell today!" posts to show your prowess. That's why I've noted that you
might try to gamble to catch the current falling knife again.
Of course, NASDAQ's tech sector generally is disfavored in a rising interest
rate environment, so one shouldn't be too surprised if 2022 has less potential
upside (or more losses) than during the 2020/21 era of QE expansions. As
such, is TQQQ currently a "buy"? Likewise, what are your predictions for
someone who's has TQQQ from 2021 from at/hear its high for how long they're
likely have to wait until they're no longer underwater? Days? Weeks? Months?
Longer?
Or are you 'bravely' going to be silent on tangible stuff, so as to not have your
pretend stock trader claims get completely blown up in your face again?
This is an exercise to see WHO's buy recommendation was better - yours
or mine.
No, that's not what it has been.
You'd tried to brag for years about how you're so savvy and profitable/etc, but
you just never showed that by publicly committing to a trade where you
explicitly telegraphed in advance, to prove that you weren't BS'ing after-the-fact.
Post by TomS
Clearly, mine was better, and has been better on any reasonable time frame.
Oh, you've allegedly done a few short sprints - - never documented, per above,
but let's actually go check the archives to see if there ever was an dick-waiving
Back to Sep 12, 2019 [8:04:42 PM]
hh>> For example, let’s hear your investment prognosis on another pharma, ARNA.
TS> Would not touch ARNA - no products for sale, missed last two
TS> earnings estimates, stock chart looks horrible, and analysts
TS> mostly have SELL ratings on it.
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.sport.golf/c/yhHlqMZnqVs/m/o_1lm_vmAAAJ>
"Oh, you’ve already made it obvious that you don’t hold. I find it interesting
that the stock has such consistent buy recommendations despite what looks
like nothing much, and has a lot of institutionals holding it. The question
seems to be if they go on a tear of product approvals to sell and it pops to
$500. Even so, a +300% (paper) gain over the past three years isn’t too shabby..."
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.sport.golf/c/yhHlqMZnqVs/m/ZEQ6mj_ZAQAJ>
"Clearly, mine was better, and has been better on any reasonable time frame"
Well, at that date it was at $51 and now its at $94, so that's a +84% gain
over ~3.3 years without any fees. But more significantly, the observation
that institutionals were following its potential was spot-on, as illustrated
by PFE's buyout offer.
Now YMMV on what constitutes a "reasonable" time frame, but for investing
and not gambling, that's longer term, so considering the cited buy 3 years
prior, that would have been at ~$16 which goes to ~$100 via PFE and
assuming a stock swap (this AM: $56.50 w/ 2.84% dividend), that means
that on per $10K basis, $01K/$16 = 62.5 shares *$100 = $62,500; divided
$56.5 buys 1106 shares of PFE, whose dividends are $1.60/share-year
for $1,769.60/yr.
So based on an original investment of just $10K, that's an effective +17.696%
dividend rate of return ... and dividends from a blue chip are safe & passive,
as well as have zero monthly expense fees.
Post by TomS
Also, I am in a holding pattern right now. With the Fed announcing rate hikes
I see more volatility ahead, although I did buy INTC recently.
Tech tends to carry more debt which will be downward pressure on
that sector as interest rates rise; looking at debt ratios can provide
insight too; looks like INTC is a bit better than QCOM (~2.1 vs 1.6)
for example.
In looking back at INTC, looks like its price took a hit when Apple's
M1 Pro / M1 Max CPUs were announced last October...it has basically
just finally crawled its way back up from that. Since rumors are that
Apple has some new Macs coming out in probably March, if there's
another CPU along with them, that may repeat this sort of reaction
with Intel; could be a buying opportunity that results in a better
dividend yield along with potential capital appreciation (aka 'recovery').
Post by -hh
My own moves have been to change out some of bond funds to
reduce exposure to higher rates depressing them, as well as shop
for dividend stocks for in a Roth, plus some other things. A higher
presently very high dividend (8%), as the Market's expecting them to
cut their dividend as they've been selling off assets/etc. Others on
the table with a goal of diversification, stability and income generation
currently include: BCE, BBY, CVX, ED, ENB, JNJ, LMT, NVS, VTRS.
-hh
AAPL isn't INTC's main competitor: AMD is, and AMD stock is 5x overpriced compared to INTC.

Furthermore, APPL isn't making inroads into the Wintel market share.
https://www.techradar.com/news/apple-lags-behind-the-us-laptop-market-shares-top-dogs-hp-and-dell
Alan
2022-01-13 23:11:10 UTC
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Post by TomS
Post by -hh
Post by -hh
Post by TomS
Post by TomS
Post by -hh
Post by TomS
Post by -hh
Time to check the performance of ARNA relative to TQQQ, which Tommy
recommended instead of ARNA...
YTD / ARNA: unch. ($93.2 to $93.2 interday)
YTD / TQQQ: -20% ($170 to $135 interday)
Next up: "catch a falling knife" recommendations!
Hey Lyin' Asshole, you better check the last 1 year performance.
Oh, you mean where a full third of that paper gain has been wiped out
in just two weeks?
In any event, the past is the past and you've not been making any "buy today!"
or "sell today!" posts to show your prowess. That's why I've noted that you
might try to gamble to catch the current falling knife again.
Of course, NASDAQ's tech sector generally is disfavored in a rising interest
rate environment, so one shouldn't be too surprised if 2022 has less potential
upside (or more losses) than during the 2020/21 era of QE expansions. As
such, is TQQQ currently a "buy"? Likewise, what are your predictions for
someone who's has TQQQ from 2021 from at/hear its high for how long they're
likely have to wait until they're no longer underwater? Days? Weeks? Months?
Longer?
Or are you 'bravely' going to be silent on tangible stuff, so as to not have your
pretend stock trader claims get completely blown up in your face again?
This is an exercise to see WHO's buy recommendation was better - yours
or mine.
No, that's not what it has been.
You'd tried to brag for years about how you're so savvy and profitable/etc, but
you just never showed that by publicly committing to a trade where you
explicitly telegraphed in advance, to prove that you weren't BS'ing after-the-fact.
Post by TomS
Clearly, mine was better, and has been better on any reasonable time frame.
Oh, you've allegedly done a few short sprints - - never documented, per above,
but let's actually go check the archives to see if there ever was an dick-waiving
Back to Sep 12, 2019 [8:04:42 PM]
hh>> For example, let’s hear your investment prognosis on another pharma, ARNA.
TS> Would not touch ARNA - no products for sale, missed last two
TS> earnings estimates, stock chart looks horrible, and analysts
TS> mostly have SELL ratings on it.
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.sport.golf/c/yhHlqMZnqVs/m/o_1lm_vmAAAJ>
"Oh, you’ve already made it obvious that you don’t hold. I find it interesting
that the stock has such consistent buy recommendations despite what looks
like nothing much, and has a lot of institutionals holding it. The question
seems to be if they go on a tear of product approvals to sell and it pops to
$500. Even so, a +300% (paper) gain over the past three years isn’t too shabby..."
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.sport.golf/c/yhHlqMZnqVs/m/ZEQ6mj_ZAQAJ>
"Clearly, mine was better, and has been better on any reasonable time frame"
Well, at that date it was at $51 and now its at $94, so that's a +84% gain
over ~3.3 years without any fees. But more significantly, the observation
that institutionals were following its potential was spot-on, as illustrated
by PFE's buyout offer.
Now YMMV on what constitutes a "reasonable" time frame, but for investing
and not gambling, that's longer term, so considering the cited buy 3 years
prior, that would have been at ~$16 which goes to ~$100 via PFE and
assuming a stock swap (this AM: $56.50 w/ 2.84% dividend), that means
that on per $10K basis, $01K/$16 = 62.5 shares *$100 = $62,500; divided
$56.5 buys 1106 shares of PFE, whose dividends are $1.60/share-year
for $1,769.60/yr.
So based on an original investment of just $10K, that's an effective +17.696%
dividend rate of return ... and dividends from a blue chip are safe & passive,
as well as have zero monthly expense fees.
Post by TomS
Also, I am in a holding pattern right now. With the Fed announcing rate hikes
I see more volatility ahead, although I did buy INTC recently.
Tech tends to carry more debt which will be downward pressure on
that sector as interest rates rise; looking at debt ratios can provide
insight too; looks like INTC is a bit better than QCOM (~2.1 vs 1.6)
for example.
In looking back at INTC, looks like its price took a hit when Apple's
M1 Pro / M1 Max CPUs were announced last October...it has basically
just finally crawled its way back up from that. Since rumors are that
Apple has some new Macs coming out in probably March, if there's
another CPU along with them, that may repeat this sort of reaction
with Intel; could be a buying opportunity that results in a better
dividend yield along with potential capital appreciation (aka 'recovery').
Post by -hh
My own moves have been to change out some of bond funds to
reduce exposure to higher rates depressing them, as well as shop
for dividend stocks for in a Roth, plus some other things. A higher
presently very high dividend (8%), as the Market's expecting them to
cut their dividend as they've been selling off assets/etc. Others on
the table with a goal of diversification, stability and income generation
currently include: BCE, BBY, CVX, ED, ENB, JNJ, LMT, NVS, VTRS.
-hh
AAPL isn't INTC's main competitor: AMD is, and AMD stock is 5x overpriced compared to INTC.
Furthermore, APPL isn't making inroads into the Wintel market share.
https://www.techradar.com/news/apple-lags-behind-the-us-laptop-market-shares-top-dogs-hp-and-dell
LOL!
Alan
2022-01-13 23:19:45 UTC
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Post by -hh
Post by -hh
Post by TomS
Post by TomS
Post by -hh
Post by TomS
Post by -hh
Time to check the performance of ARNA relative to TQQQ, which Tommy
recommended instead of ARNA...
YTD / ARNA: unch. ($93.2 to $93.2 interday)
YTD / TQQQ: -20% ($170 to $135 interday)
Next up: "catch a falling knife" recommendations!
Hey Lyin' Asshole, you better check the last 1 year performance.
Oh, you mean where a full third of that paper gain has been wiped out
in just two weeks?
In any event, the past is the past and you've not been making any "buy today!"
or "sell today!" posts to show your prowess. That's why I've noted that you
might try to gamble to catch the current falling knife again.
Of course, NASDAQ's tech sector generally is disfavored in a rising interest
rate environment, so one shouldn't be too surprised if 2022 has less potential
upside (or more losses) than during the 2020/21 era of QE expansions. As
such, is TQQQ currently a "buy"? Likewise, what are your predictions for
someone who's has TQQQ from 2021 from at/hear its high for how long they're
likely have to wait until they're no longer underwater? Days? Weeks? Months?
Longer?
Or are you 'bravely' going to be silent on tangible stuff, so as to not have your
pretend stock trader claims get completely blown up in your face again?
This is an exercise to see WHO's buy recommendation was better - yours
or mine.
No, that's not what it has been.
You'd tried to brag for years about how you're so savvy and profitable/etc, but
you just never showed that by publicly committing to a trade where you
explicitly telegraphed in advance, to prove that you weren't BS'ing after-the-fact.
Post by TomS
Clearly, mine was better, and has been better on any reasonable time frame.
Oh, you've allegedly done a few short sprints - - never documented, per above,
but let's actually go check the archives to see if there ever was an dick-waiving
Back to Sep 12, 2019 [8:04:42 PM]
hh>> For example, let’s hear your investment prognosis on another pharma, ARNA.
TS> Would not touch ARNA - no products for sale, missed last two
TS> earnings estimates, stock chart looks horrible, and analysts
TS> mostly have SELL ratings on it.
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.sport.golf/c/yhHlqMZnqVs/m/o_1lm_vmAAAJ>
"Oh, you’ve already made it obvious that you don’t hold. I find it interesting
that the stock has such consistent buy recommendations despite what looks
like nothing much, and has a lot of institutionals holding it. The question
seems to be if they go on a tear of product approvals to sell and it pops to
$500. Even so, a +300% (paper) gain over the past three years isn’t too shabby..."
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.sport.golf/c/yhHlqMZnqVs/m/ZEQ6mj_ZAQAJ>
"Clearly, mine was better, and has been better on any reasonable time frame"
Well, at that date it was at $51 and now its at $94, so that's a +84% gain
over ~3.3 years without any fees. But more significantly, the observation
that institutionals were following its potential was spot-on, as illustrated
by PFE's buyout offer.
Now YMMV on what constitutes a "reasonable" time frame, but for investing
and not gambling, that's longer term, so considering the cited buy 3 years
prior, that would have been at ~$16 which goes to ~$100 via PFE and
assuming a stock swap (this AM: $56.50 w/ 2.84% dividend), that means
that on per $10K basis, $01K/$16 = 62.5 shares *$100 = $62,500; divided
$56.5 buys 1106 shares of PFE, whose dividends are $1.60/share-year
for $1,769.60/yr.
So based on an original investment of just $10K, that's an effective +17.696%
dividend rate of return ... and dividends from a blue chip are safe & passive,
as well as have zero monthly expense fees.
Post by TomS
Also, I am in a holding pattern right now. With the Fed announcing rate hikes
I see more volatility ahead, although I did buy INTC recently.
Tech tends to carry more debt which will be downward pressure on
that sector as interest rates rise; looking at debt ratios can provide
insight too; looks like INTC is a bit better than QCOM (~2.1 vs 1.6)
for example.
In looking back at INTC, looks like its price took a hit when Apple's
M1 Pro / M1 Max CPUs were announced last October...it has basically
just finally crawled its way back up from that. Since rumors are that
Apple has some new Macs coming out in probably March, if there's
another CPU along with them, that may repeat this sort of reaction
with Intel; could be a buying opportunity that results in a better
dividend yield along with potential capital appreciation (aka 'recovery').
Post by -hh
My own moves have been to change out some of bond funds to
reduce exposure to higher rates depressing them, as well as shop
for dividend stocks for in a Roth, plus some other things. A higher
presently very high dividend (8%), as the Market's expecting them to
cut their dividend as they've been selling off assets/etc. Others on
the table with a goal of diversification, stability and income generation
currently include: BCE, BBY, CVX, ED, ENB, JNJ, LMT, NVS, VTRS.
-hh
AAPL isn't INTC's main competitor: AMD is, and AMD stock is 5x overpriced compared to INTC.
Furthermore, APPL isn't making inroads into the Wintel market share.
https://www.techradar.com/news/apple-lags-behind-the-us-laptop-market-shares-top-dogs-hp-and-dell
As usual, your own article shows you're wrong:

'Apple netting third place is actually quite impressive, representing
its steady growth in the laptop market.'

So, please:

Explain how steady growth can possibly be achieved without "making inroads"?

:-)
-hh
2022-01-13 23:21:45 UTC
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Time to check the performance of ARNA relative to TQQQ, which Tommy
recommended instead of ARNA...
YTD / ARNA: unch. ($93.2 to $93.2 interday)
YTD / TQQQ: -20% ($170 to $135 interday)
Next up: "catch a falling knife" recommendations!
Hey Lyin' Asshole, you better check the last 1 year performance.
Oh, you mean where a full third of that paper gain has been wiped out
in just two weeks?
In any event, the past is the past and you've not been making any "buy today!"
or "sell today!" posts to show your prowess. That's why I've noted that you
might try to gamble to catch the current falling knife again.
Of course, NASDAQ's tech sector generally is disfavored in a rising interest
rate environment, so one shouldn't be too surprised if 2022 has less potential
upside (or more losses) than during the 2020/21 era of QE expansions. As
such, is TQQQ currently a "buy"? Likewise, what are your predictions for
someone who's has TQQQ from 2021 from at/hear its high for how long they're
likely have to wait until they're no longer underwater? Days? Weeks? Months?
Longer?
Or are you 'bravely' going to be silent on tangible stuff, so as to not have your
pretend stock trader claims get completely blown up in your face again?
This is an exercise to see WHO's buy recommendation was better - yours
or mine.
No, that's not what it has been.
You'd tried to brag for years about how you're so savvy and profitable/etc, but
you just never showed that by publicly committing to a trade where you
explicitly telegraphed in advance, to prove that you weren't BS'ing after-the-fact.
Post by TomS
Clearly, mine was better, and has been better on any reasonable time frame.
Oh, you've allegedly done a few short sprints - - never documented, per above,
but let's actually go check the archives to see if there ever was an dick-waiving
Back to Sep 12, 2019 [8:04:42 PM]
hh>> For example, let’s hear your investment prognosis on another pharma, ARNA.
TS> Would not touch ARNA - no products for sale, missed last two
TS> earnings estimates, stock chart looks horrible, and analysts
TS> mostly have SELL ratings on it.
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.sport.golf/c/yhHlqMZnqVs/m/o_1lm_vmAAAJ>
"Oh, you’ve already made it obvious that you don’t hold. I find it interesting
that the stock has such consistent buy recommendations despite what looks
like nothing much, and has a lot of institutionals holding it. The question
seems to be if they go on a tear of product approvals to sell and it pops to
$500. Even so, a +300% (paper) gain over the past three years isn’t too shabby..."
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.sport.golf/c/yhHlqMZnqVs/m/ZEQ6mj_ZAQAJ>
"Clearly, mine was better, and has been better on any reasonable time frame"
Well, at that date it was at $51 and now its at $94, so that's a +84% gain
over ~3.3 years without any fees. But more significantly, the observation
that institutionals were following its potential was spot-on, as illustrated
by PFE's buyout offer.
Now YMMV on what constitutes a "reasonable" time frame, but for investing
and not gambling, that's longer term, so considering the cited buy 3 years
prior, that would have been at ~$16 which goes to ~$100 via PFE and
assuming a stock swap (this AM: $56.50 w/ 2.84% dividend), that means
that on per $10K basis, $01K/$16 = 62.5 shares *$100 = $62,500; divided
$56.5 buys 1106 shares of PFE, whose dividends are $1.60/share-year
for $1,769.60/yr.
So based on an original investment of just $10K, that's an effective +17.696%
dividend rate of return ... and dividends from a blue chip are safe & passive,
as well as have zero monthly expense fees.
Post by TomS
Also, I am in a holding pattern right now. With the Fed announcing rate hikes
I see more volatility ahead, although I did buy INTC recently.
Tech tends to carry more debt which will be downward pressure on
that sector as interest rates rise; looking at debt ratios can provide
insight too; looks like INTC is a bit better than QCOM (~2.1 vs 1.6)
for example.
In looking back at INTC, looks like its price took a hit when Apple's
M1 Pro / M1 Max CPUs were announced last October...it has basically
just finally crawled its way back up from that. Since rumors are that
Apple has some new Macs coming out in probably March, if there's
another CPU along with them, that may repeat this sort of reaction
with Intel; could be a buying opportunity that results in a better
dividend yield along with potential capital appreciation (aka 'recovery').
Post by -hh
My own moves have been to change out some of bond funds to
reduce exposure to higher rates depressing them, as well as shop
for dividend stocks for in a Roth, plus some other things. A higher
presently very high dividend (8%), as the Market's expecting them to
cut their dividend as they've been selling off assets/etc. Others on
the table with a goal of diversification, stability and income generation
currently include: BCE, BBY, CVX, ED, ENB, JNJ, LMT, NVS, VTRS.
AAPL isn't INTC's main competitor: AMD is, and AMD stock is 5x overpriced compared to INTC.
Apple doesn’t need to be their _main_ competitor… but that Intel took a hit
when Apple released a new CPU shows that they’re not totally disassociated.
Post by TomS
Furthermore, APPL isn't making inroads into the Wintel market share.
Post by -hh
https://www.techradar.com/news/apple-lags-behind-the-us-laptop-market-shares-top-dogs-hp-and-dell>
Except your own cite notes that Apple is growing, and notes:

“Apple netting third place is actually quite impressive, representing
its steady growth in the laptop market.”

Plus Apple’s sales last quarter set an all time Quarterly Revenue Record
for Macs … and the MBP’s with the new CPUs hadn’t been released yet in
that Q. As such, don’t be surprised if in two weeks they announce a new
Q record..which probably also means more marketshare gains.


-hh
TomS
2022-01-14 05:33:42 UTC
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Time to check the performance of ARNA relative to TQQQ, which Tommy
recommended instead of ARNA...
YTD / ARNA: unch. ($93.2 to $93.2 interday)
YTD / TQQQ: -20% ($170 to $135 interday)
Next up: "catch a falling knife" recommendations!
Hey Lyin' Asshole, you better check the last 1 year performance.
Oh, you mean where a full third of that paper gain has been wiped out
in just two weeks?
In any event, the past is the past and you've not been making any "buy today!"
or "sell today!" posts to show your prowess. That's why I've noted that you
might try to gamble to catch the current falling knife again.
Of course, NASDAQ's tech sector generally is disfavored in a rising interest
rate environment, so one shouldn't be too surprised if 2022 has less potential
upside (or more losses) than during the 2020/21 era of QE expansions. As
such, is TQQQ currently a "buy"? Likewise, what are your predictions for
someone who's has TQQQ from 2021 from at/hear its high for how long they're
likely have to wait until they're no longer underwater? Days? Weeks? Months?
Longer?
Or are you 'bravely' going to be silent on tangible stuff, so as to not have your
pretend stock trader claims get completely blown up in your face again?
This is an exercise to see WHO's buy recommendation was better - yours
or mine.
No, that's not what it has been.
You'd tried to brag for years about how you're so savvy and profitable/etc, but
you just never showed that by publicly committing to a trade where you
explicitly telegraphed in advance, to prove that you weren't BS'ing after-the-fact.
Post by TomS
Clearly, mine was better, and has been better on any reasonable time frame.
Oh, you've allegedly done a few short sprints - - never documented, per above,
but let's actually go check the archives to see if there ever was an dick-waiving
Back to Sep 12, 2019 [8:04:42 PM]
hh>> For example, let’s hear your investment prognosis on another pharma, ARNA.
TS> Would not touch ARNA - no products for sale, missed last two
TS> earnings estimates, stock chart looks horrible, and analysts
TS> mostly have SELL ratings on it.
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.sport.golf/c/yhHlqMZnqVs/m/o_1lm_vmAAAJ>
"Oh, you’ve already made it obvious that you don’t hold. I find it interesting
that the stock has such consistent buy recommendations despite what looks
like nothing much, and has a lot of institutionals holding it. The question
seems to be if they go on a tear of product approvals to sell and it pops to
$500. Even so, a +300% (paper) gain over the past three years isn’t too shabby..."
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.sport.golf/c/yhHlqMZnqVs/m/ZEQ6mj_ZAQAJ>
"Clearly, mine was better, and has been better on any reasonable time frame"
Well, at that date it was at $51 and now its at $94, so that's a +84% gain
over ~3.3 years without any fees. But more significantly, the observation
that institutionals were following its potential was spot-on, as illustrated
by PFE's buyout offer.
Now YMMV on what constitutes a "reasonable" time frame, but for investing
and not gambling, that's longer term, so considering the cited buy 3 years
prior, that would have been at ~$16 which goes to ~$100 via PFE and
assuming a stock swap (this AM: $56.50 w/ 2.84% dividend), that means
that on per $10K basis, $01K/$16 = 62.5 shares *$100 = $62,500; divided
$56.5 buys 1106 shares of PFE, whose dividends are $1.60/share-year
for $1,769.60/yr.
So based on an original investment of just $10K, that's an effective +17.696%
dividend rate of return ... and dividends from a blue chip are safe & passive,
as well as have zero monthly expense fees.
Post by TomS
Also, I am in a holding pattern right now. With the Fed announcing rate hikes
I see more volatility ahead, although I did buy INTC recently.
Tech tends to carry more debt which will be downward pressure on
that sector as interest rates rise; looking at debt ratios can provide
insight too; looks like INTC is a bit better than QCOM (~2.1 vs 1.6)
for example.
In looking back at INTC, looks like its price took a hit when Apple's
M1 Pro / M1 Max CPUs were announced last October...it has basically
just finally crawled its way back up from that. Since rumors are that
Apple has some new Macs coming out in probably March, if there's
another CPU along with them, that may repeat this sort of reaction
with Intel; could be a buying opportunity that results in a better
dividend yield along with potential capital appreciation (aka 'recovery').
Post by -hh
My own moves have been to change out some of bond funds to
reduce exposure to higher rates depressing them, as well as shop
for dividend stocks for in a Roth, plus some other things. A higher
presently very high dividend (8%), as the Market's expecting them to
cut their dividend as they've been selling off assets/etc. Others on
the table with a goal of diversification, stability and income generation
currently include: BCE, BBY, CVX, ED, ENB, JNJ, LMT, NVS, VTRS.
AAPL isn't INTC's main competitor: AMD is, and AMD stock is 5x overpriced compared to INTC.
Apple doesn’t need to be their _main_ competitor… but that Intel took a hit
when Apple released a new CPU shows that they’re not totally disassociated.
Post by TomS
Furthermore, APPL isn't making inroads into the Wintel market share.
Post by -hh
https://www.techradar.com/news/apple-lags-behind-the-us-laptop-market-shares-top-dogs-hp-and-dell>
“Apple netting third place is actually quite impressive, representing
its steady growth in the laptop market.”
Plus Apple’s sales last quarter set an all time Quarterly Revenue Record
for Macs … and the MBP’s with the new CPUs hadn’t been released yet in
that Q. As such, don’t be surprised if in two weeks they announce a new
Q record..which probably also means more marketshare gains.
-hh
Go find any investor news at the time that cited AAPL as being the cause of the drop - I sure never heard anything of the sort.
-hh
2022-01-14 20:15:54 UTC
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Time to check the performance of ARNA relative to TQQQ, which Tommy
recommended instead of ARNA...
YTD / ARNA: unch. ($93.2 to $93.2 interday)
YTD / TQQQ: -20% ($170 to $135 interday)
Next up: "catch a falling knife" recommendations!
Hey Lyin' Asshole, you better check the last 1 year performance.
Oh, you mean where a full third of that paper gain has been wiped out
in just two weeks?
In any event, the past is the past and you've not been making any "buy today!"
or "sell today!" posts to show your prowess. That's why I've noted that you
might try to gamble to catch the current falling knife again.
Of course, NASDAQ's tech sector generally is disfavored in a rising interest
rate environment, so one shouldn't be too surprised if 2022 has less potential
upside (or more losses) than during the 2020/21 era of QE expansions. As
such, is TQQQ currently a "buy"? Likewise, what are your predictions for
someone who's has TQQQ from 2021 from at/hear its high for how long they're
likely have to wait until they're no longer underwater? Days? Weeks? Months?
Longer?
Or are you 'bravely' going to be silent on tangible stuff, so as to not have your
pretend stock trader claims get completely blown up in your face again?
This is an exercise to see WHO's buy recommendation was better - yours
or mine.
No, that's not what it has been.
You'd tried to brag for years about how you're so savvy and profitable/etc, but
you just never showed that by publicly committing to a trade where you
explicitly telegraphed in advance, to prove that you weren't BS'ing after-the-fact.
Post by TomS
Clearly, mine was better, and has been better on any reasonable time frame.
Oh, you've allegedly done a few short sprints - - never documented, per above,
but let's actually go check the archives to see if there ever was an dick-waiving
Back to Sep 12, 2019 [8:04:42 PM]
hh>> For example, let’s hear your investment prognosis on another pharma, ARNA.
TS> Would not touch ARNA - no products for sale, missed last two
TS> earnings estimates, stock chart looks horrible, and analysts
TS> mostly have SELL ratings on it.
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.sport.golf/c/yhHlqMZnqVs/m/o_1lm_vmAAAJ>
"Oh, you’ve already made it obvious that you don’t hold. I find it interesting
that the stock has such consistent buy recommendations despite what looks
like nothing much, and has a lot of institutionals holding it. The question
seems to be if they go on a tear of product approvals to sell and it pops to
$500. Even so, a +300% (paper) gain over the past three years isn’t too shabby..."
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.sport.golf/c/yhHlqMZnqVs/m/ZEQ6mj_ZAQAJ>
"Clearly, mine was better, and has been better on any reasonable time frame"
Well, at that date it was at $51 and now its at $94, so that's a +84% gain
over ~3.3 years without any fees. But more significantly, the observation
that institutionals were following its potential was spot-on, as illustrated
by PFE's buyout offer.
Now YMMV on what constitutes a "reasonable" time frame, but for investing
and not gambling, that's longer term, so considering the cited buy 3 years
prior, that would have been at ~$16 which goes to ~$100 via PFE and
assuming a stock swap (this AM: $56.50 w/ 2.84% dividend), that means
that on per $10K basis, $01K/$16 = 62.5 shares *$100 = $62,500; divided
$56.5 buys 1106 shares of PFE, whose dividends are $1.60/share-year
for $1,769.60/yr.
So based on an original investment of just $10K, that's an effective +17.696%
dividend rate of return ... and dividends from a blue chip are safe & passive,
as well as have zero monthly expense fees.
Post by TomS
Also, I am in a holding pattern right now. With the Fed announcing rate hikes
I see more volatility ahead, although I did buy INTC recently.
Tech tends to carry more debt which will be downward pressure on
that sector as interest rates rise; looking at debt ratios can provide
insight too; looks like INTC is a bit better than QCOM (~2.1 vs 1.6)
for example.
In looking back at INTC, looks like its price took a hit when Apple's
M1 Pro / M1 Max CPUs were announced last October...it has basically
just finally crawled its way back up from that. Since rumors are that
Apple has some new Macs coming out in probably March, if there's
another CPU along with them, that may repeat this sort of reaction
with Intel; could be a buying opportunity that results in a better
dividend yield along with potential capital appreciation (aka 'recovery').
Post by -hh
My own moves have been to change out some of bond funds to
reduce exposure to higher rates depressing them, as well as shop
for dividend stocks for in a Roth, plus some other things. A higher
presently very high dividend (8%), as the Market's expecting them to
cut their dividend as they've been selling off assets/etc. Others on
the table with a goal of diversification, stability and income generation
currently include: BCE, BBY, CVX, ED, ENB, JNJ, LMT, NVS, VTRS.
AAPL isn't INTC's main competitor: AMD is, and AMD stock is 5x overpriced compared to INTC.
Apple doesn’t need to be their _main_ competitor… but that Intel took a hit
when Apple released a new CPU shows that they’re not totally disassociated.
Post by TomS
Furthermore, APPL isn't making inroads into the Wintel market share.
Post by -hh
https://www.techradar.com/news/apple-lags-behind-the-us-laptop-market-shares-top-dogs-hp-and-dell>
“Apple netting third place is actually quite impressive, representing
its steady growth in the laptop market.”
Plus Apple’s sales last quarter set an all time Quarterly Revenue Record
for Macs … and the MBP’s with the new CPUs hadn’t been released yet in
that Q. As such, don’t be surprised if in two weeks they announce a new
Q record..which probably also means more marketshare gains.
Go find any investor news at the time that cited AAPL as being the
cause of the drop - I sure never heard anything of the sort.
You missed the industry observations that it would adversely affect
Intel's business prospects; case in point:

"...Apple Beating 'Intel At Its Own Game,' Say Analysts After 'Unleashed' Event"

"Analysts tracking Apple Inc’s (NASDAQ:AAPL) “Unleashed” event are
terming the arrival of M1 Pro and M1 Max chips as a “game changer”
and a signal that the tech giant is giving Intel Corporation (NASDAQ:INTC)
a run for its money."

<https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/m1-pro-max-processor-to-be-a-game-changer-apple-beating-intel-at-its-own-game-say-analysts-after-unleashed-event-1030876554>

"Apple's M1 Pro and M1 Max chips mean new trouble for Intel"

"And they're bad news for Intel, whose chips Apple is ejecting from its
Macs after a 15-year partnership. It's a loss of revenue, prestige and
orders to keep its factories running at full capacity."

<https://www.cnet.com/tech/computing/apples-m1-pro-and-m1-max-chips-mean-new-trouble-for-intel/>

Of course Tommy will demand nothing less than explicit "if Apple, then
Intel stock will drop by 5% the next day" prediction. The problem with
that set of Goalposts is that Tommy's not made such predictions.


-hh
-hh
2022-01-14 23:21:49 UTC
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Time to check the performance of ARNA relative to TQQQ, which Tommy
recommended instead of ARNA...
YTD / ARNA: unch. ($93.2 to $93.2 interday)
YTD / TQQQ: -20% ($170 to $135 interday)
Next up: "catch a falling knife" recommendations!
Hey Lyin' Asshole, you better check the last 1 year performance.
Oh, you mean where a full third of that paper gain has been wiped out
in just two weeks?
In any event, the past is the past and you've not been making any "buy today!"
or "sell today!" posts to show your prowess. That's why I've noted that you
might try to gamble to catch the current falling knife again.
Of course, NASDAQ's tech sector generally is disfavored in a rising interest
rate environment, so one shouldn't be too surprised if 2022 has less potential
upside (or more losses) than during the 2020/21 era of QE expansions. As
such, is TQQQ currently a "buy"? Likewise, what are your predictions for
someone who's has TQQQ from 2021 from at/hear its high for how long they're
likely have to wait until they're no longer underwater? Days? Weeks? Months?
Longer?
Or are you 'bravely' going to be silent on tangible stuff, so as to not have your
pretend stock trader claims get completely blown up in your face again?
This is an exercise to see WHO's buy recommendation was better - yours
or mine.
No, that's not what it has been.
You'd tried to brag for years about how you're so savvy and profitable/etc, but
you just never showed that by publicly committing to a trade where you
explicitly telegraphed in advance, to prove that you weren't BS'ing after-the-fact.
Post by TomS
Clearly, mine was better, and has been better on any reasonable time frame.
Oh, you've allegedly done a few short sprints - - never documented, per above,
but let's actually go check the archives to see if there ever was an dick-waiving
Back to Sep 12, 2019 [8:04:42 PM]
hh>> For example, let’s hear your investment prognosis on another pharma, ARNA.
TS> Would not touch ARNA - no products for sale, missed last two
TS> earnings estimates, stock chart looks horrible, and analysts
TS> mostly have SELL ratings on it.
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.sport.golf/c/yhHlqMZnqVs/m/o_1lm_vmAAAJ>
"Oh, you’ve already made it obvious that you don’t hold. I find it interesting
that the stock has such consistent buy recommendations despite what looks
like nothing much, and has a lot of institutionals holding it. The question
seems to be if they go on a tear of product approvals to sell and it pops to
$500. Even so, a +300% (paper) gain over the past three years isn’t too shabby..."
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.sport.golf/c/yhHlqMZnqVs/m/ZEQ6mj_ZAQAJ>
"Clearly, mine was better, and has been better on any reasonable time frame"
Well, at that date it was at $51 and now its at $94, so that's a +84% gain
over ~3.3 years without any fees. But more significantly, the observation
that institutionals were following its potential was spot-on, as illustrated
by PFE's buyout offer.
Now YMMV on what constitutes a "reasonable" time frame, but for investing
and not gambling, that's longer term, so considering the cited buy 3 years
prior, that would have been at ~$16 which goes to ~$100 via PFE and
assuming a stock swap (this AM: $56.50 w/ 2.84% dividend), that means
that on per $10K basis, $01K/$16 = 62.5 shares *$100 = $62,500; divided
$56.5 buys 1106 shares of PFE, whose dividends are $1.60/share-year
for $1,769.60/yr.
So based on an original investment of just $10K, that's an effective +17.696%
dividend rate of return ... and dividends from a blue chip are safe & passive,
as well as have zero monthly expense fees.
Post by TomS
Also, I am in a holding pattern right now. With the Fed announcing rate hikes
I see more volatility ahead, although I did buy INTC recently.
Tech tends to carry more debt which will be downward pressure on
that sector as interest rates rise; looking at debt ratios can provide
insight too; looks like INTC is a bit better than QCOM (~2.1 vs 1.6)
for example.
In looking back at INTC, looks like its price took a hit when Apple's
M1 Pro / M1 Max CPUs were announced last October...it has basically
just finally crawled its way back up from that. Since rumors are that
Apple has some new Macs coming out in probably March, if there's
another CPU along with them, that may repeat this sort of reaction
with Intel; could be a buying opportunity that results in a better
dividend yield along with potential capital appreciation (aka 'recovery').
Post by -hh
My own moves have been to change out some of bond funds to
reduce exposure to higher rates depressing them, as well as shop
for dividend stocks for in a Roth, plus some other things. A higher
presently very high dividend (8%), as the Market's expecting them to
cut their dividend as they've been selling off assets/etc. Others on
the table with a goal of diversification, stability and income generation
currently include: BCE, BBY, CVX, ED, ENB, JNJ, LMT, NVS, VTRS.
AAPL isn't INTC's main competitor: AMD is, and AMD stock is 5x overpriced compared to INTC.
Apple doesn’t need to be their _main_ competitor… but that Intel took a hit
when Apple released a new CPU shows that they’re not totally disassociated.
Post by TomS
Furthermore, APPL isn't making inroads into the Wintel market share.
Post by -hh
https://www.techradar.com/news/apple-lags-behind-the-us-laptop-market-shares-top-dogs-hp-and-dell>
“Apple netting third place is actually quite impressive, representing
its steady growth in the laptop market.”
Plus Apple’s sales last quarter set an all time Quarterly Revenue Record
for Macs … and the MBP’s with the new CPUs hadn’t been released yet in
that Q. As such, don’t be surprised if in two weeks they announce a new
Q record..which probably also means more marketshare gains.
Go find any investor news at the time that cited AAPL as being the
cause of the drop - I sure never heard anything of the sort.
You missed the industry observations that it would adversely affect
"...Apple Beating 'Intel At Its Own Game,' Say Analysts After 'Unleashed' Event"
"Analysts tracking Apple Inc’s (NASDAQ:AAPL) “Unleashed” event are
terming the arrival of M1 Pro and M1 Max chips as a “game changer”
and a signal that the tech giant is giving Intel Corporation (NASDAQ:INTC)
a run for its money."
<https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/m1-pro-max-processor-to-be-a-game-changer-apple-beating-intel-at-its-own-game-say-analysts-after-unleashed-event-1030876554>
"Apple's M1 Pro and M1 Max chips mean new trouble for Intel"
"And they're bad news for Intel, whose chips Apple is ejecting from its
Macs after a 15-year partnership. It's a loss of revenue, prestige and
orders to keep its factories running at full capacity."
<https://www.cnet.com/tech/computing/apples-m1-pro-and-m1-max-chips-mean-new-trouble-for-intel/>
Of course Tommy will demand nothing less than explicit "if Apple, then
Intel stock will drop by 5% the next day" prediction. The problem with
that set of Goalposts is that Tommy's not made such predictions.
Oh, and let’s not forget what your TechRadar webpage said: Apple has a 24%
marketshare of the laptop segment, which is IIRC ~80% of all PC sales, so for
Intel to lose that as a customer represents roughly a (.80)(24%) = 19% decline
in the market for their PC CPU sales…so far.

-hh
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Time to check the performance of ARNA relative to TQQQ, which Tommy
recommended instead of ARNA...
YTD / ARNA: unch. ($93.2 to $93.2 interday)
YTD / TQQQ: -20% ($170 to $135 interday)
Next up: "catch a falling knife" recommendations!
Hey Lyin' Asshole, you better check the last 1 year performance.
Oh, you mean where a full third of that paper gain has been wiped out
in just two weeks?
In any event, the past is the past and you've not been making any "buy today!"
or "sell today!" posts to show your prowess. That's why I've noted that you
might try to gamble to catch the current falling knife again.
Of course, NASDAQ's tech sector generally is disfavored in a rising interest
rate environment, so one shouldn't be too surprised if 2022 has less potential
upside (or more losses) than during the 2020/21 era of QE expansions. As
such, is TQQQ currently a "buy"? Likewise, what are your predictions for
someone who's has TQQQ from 2021 from at/hear its high for how long they're
likely have to wait until they're no longer underwater? Days? Weeks? Months?
Longer?
Or are you 'bravely' going to be silent on tangible stuff, so as to not have your
pretend stock trader claims get completely blown up in your face again?
This is an exercise to see WHO's buy recommendation was better - yours
or mine.
No, that's not what it has been.
You'd tried to brag for years about how you're so savvy and profitable/etc, but
you just never showed that by publicly committing to a trade where you
explicitly telegraphed in advance, to prove that you weren't BS'ing after-the-fact.
Post by TomS
Clearly, mine was better, and has been better on any reasonable time frame.
Oh, you've allegedly done a few short sprints - - never documented, per above,
but let's actually go check the archives to see if there ever was an dick-waiving
Back to Sep 12, 2019 [8:04:42 PM]
hh>> For example, let’s hear your investment prognosis on another pharma, ARNA.
TS> Would not touch ARNA - no products for sale, missed last two
TS> earnings estimates, stock chart looks horrible, and analysts
TS> mostly have SELL ratings on it.
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.sport.golf/c/yhHlqMZnqVs/m/o_1lm_vmAAAJ>
"Oh, you’ve already made it obvious that you don’t hold. I find it interesting
that the stock has such consistent buy recommendations despite what looks
like nothing much, and has a lot of institutionals holding it. The question
seems to be if they go on a tear of product approvals to sell and it pops to
$500. Even so, a +300% (paper) gain over the past three years isn’t too shabby..."
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.sport.golf/c/yhHlqMZnqVs/m/ZEQ6mj_ZAQAJ>
"Clearly, mine was better, and has been better on any reasonable time frame"
Well, at that date it was at $51 and now its at $94, so that's a +84% gain
over ~3.3 years without any fees. But more significantly, the observation
that institutionals were following its potential was spot-on, as illustrated
by PFE's buyout offer.
Now YMMV on what constitutes a "reasonable" time frame, but for investing
and not gambling, that's longer term, so considering the cited buy 3 years
prior, that would have been at ~$16 which goes to ~$100 via PFE and
assuming a stock swap (this AM: $56.50 w/ 2.84% dividend), that means
that on per $10K basis, $01K/$16 = 62.5 shares *$100 = $62,500; divided
$56.5 buys 1106 shares of PFE, whose dividends are $1.60/share-year
for $1,769.60/yr.
So based on an original investment of just $10K, that's an effective +17.696%
dividend rate of return ... and dividends from a blue chip are safe & passive,
as well as have zero monthly expense fees.
Post by TomS
Also, I am in a holding pattern right now. With the Fed announcing rate hikes
I see more volatility ahead, although I did buy INTC recently.
Tech tends to carry more debt which will be downward pressure on
that sector as interest rates rise; looking at debt ratios can provide
insight too; looks like INTC is a bit better than QCOM (~2.1 vs 1.6)
for example.
In looking back at INTC, looks like its price took a hit when Apple's
M1 Pro / M1 Max CPUs were announced last October...it has basically
just finally crawled its way back up from that. Since rumors are that
Apple has some new Macs coming out in probably March, if there's
another CPU along with them, that may repeat this sort of reaction
with Intel; could be a buying opportunity that results in a better
dividend yield along with potential capital appreciation (aka 'recovery').
Post by -hh
My own moves have been to change out some of bond funds to
reduce exposure to higher rates depressing them, as well as shop
for dividend stocks for in a Roth, plus some other things. A higher
presently very high dividend (8%), as the Market's expecting them to
cut their dividend as they've been selling off assets/etc. Others on
the table with a goal of diversification, stability and income generation
currently include: BCE, BBY, CVX, ED, ENB, JNJ, LMT, NVS, VTRS.
AAPL isn't INTC's main competitor: AMD is, and AMD stock is 5x overpriced compared to INTC.
Apple doesn’t need to be their _main_ competitor… but that Intel took a hit
when Apple released a new CPU shows that they’re not totally disassociated.
Post by TomS
Furthermore, APPL isn't making inroads into the Wintel market share.
Post by -hh
https://www.techradar.com/news/apple-lags-behind-the-us-laptop-market-shares-top-dogs-hp-and-dell>
“Apple netting third place is actually quite impressive, representing
its steady growth in the laptop market.”
Plus Apple’s sales last quarter set an all time Quarterly Revenue Record
for Macs … and the MBP’s with the new CPUs hadn’t been released yet in
that Q. As such, don’t be surprised if in two weeks they announce a new
Q record..which probably also means more marketshare gains.
Go find any investor news at the time that cited AAPL as being the
cause of the drop - I sure never heard anything of the sort.
You missed the industry observations that it would adversely affect
"...Apple Beating 'Intel At Its Own Game,' Say Analysts After 'Unleashed' Event"
"Analysts tracking Apple Inc’s (NASDAQ:AAPL) “Unleashed” event are
terming the arrival of M1 Pro and M1 Max chips as a “game changer”
and a signal that the tech giant is giving Intel Corporation (NASDAQ:INTC)
a run for its money."
<https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/m1-pro-max-processor-to-be-a-game-changer-apple-beating-intel-at-its-own-game-say-analysts-after-unleashed-event-1030876554>
"Apple's M1 Pro and M1 Max chips mean new trouble for Intel"
"And they're bad news for Intel, whose chips Apple is ejecting from its
Macs after a 15-year partnership. It's a loss of revenue, prestige and
orders to keep its factories running at full capacity."
<https://www.cnet.com/tech/computing/apples-m1-pro-and-m1-max-chips-mean-new-trouble-for-intel/>
Of course Tommy will demand nothing less than explicit "if Apple, then
Intel stock will drop by 5% the next day" prediction. The problem with
that set of Goalposts is that Tommy's not made such predictions.
Oh, and let’s not forget what your TechRadar webpage said: Apple has a 24%
marketshare of the laptop segment, which is IIRC ~80% of all PC sales, so for
Intel to lose that as a customer represents roughly a (.80)(24%) = 19% decline
in the market for their PC CPU sales…so far.
Speak of the devil...

"Intel's Client Computing Group (CCG), the main cash cow, earned $10.1 billion
in Q4 2021, down 7% year-over-year when platform adjacencies are considered,
which is unusual for a world that suffers from an undersupply of chips amid
growing demand for PCs.

Intel's notebook components volumes dropped by 16% YoY (which is more
than what one would expect from Apple's transition to its own SoC and
subsequent drop of Intel's sales because of that), ..."

<https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-q4-2021-financial-results>

TL;DR: my quick swag suggested roughly a 19% decline potential; the
actual reported by Intel for 4Qcy21 was a 16% YoY drop (so far).


-hh
-hh
2022-03-16 13:00:21 UTC
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Time to check the performance of ARNA relative to TQQQ, which Tommy
recommended instead of ARNA...
YTD / ARNA: unch. ($93.2 to $93.2 interday)
YTD / TQQQ: -20% ($170 to $135 interday)
Next up: "catch a falling knife" recommendations!
Hey Lyin' Asshole, you better check the last 1 year performance.
Oh, you mean where a full third of that paper gain has been wiped out
in just two weeks?
In any event, the past is the past and you've not been making any "buy today!"
or "sell today!" posts to show your prowess. That's why I've noted that you
might try to gamble to catch the current falling knife again.
Of course, NASDAQ's tech sector generally is disfavored in a rising interest
rate environment, so one shouldn't be too surprised if 2022 has less potential
upside (or more losses) than during the 2020/21 era of QE expansions. As
such, is TQQQ currently a "buy"? Likewise, what are your predictions for
someone who's has TQQQ from 2021 from at/hear its high for how long they're
likely have to wait until they're no longer underwater? Days? Weeks? Months?
Longer?
Or are you 'bravely' going to be silent on tangible stuff, so as to not have your
pretend stock trader claims get completely blown up in your face again?
This is an exercise to see WHO's buy recommendation was better - yours
or mine.
No, that's not what it has been.
You'd tried to brag for years about how you're so savvy and profitable/etc, but
you just never showed that by publicly committing to a trade where you
explicitly telegraphed in advance, to prove that you weren't BS'ing after-the-fact.
Post by TomS
Clearly, mine was better, and has been better on any reasonable time frame.
Oh, you've allegedly done a few short sprints - - never documented, per above,
but let's actually go check the archives to see if there ever was an dick-waiving
Back to Sep 12, 2019 [8:04:42 PM]
hh>> For example, let’s hear your investment prognosis on another pharma, ARNA.
TS> Would not touch ARNA - no products for sale, missed last two
TS> earnings estimates, stock chart looks horrible, and analysts
TS> mostly have SELL ratings on it.
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.sport.golf/c/yhHlqMZnqVs/m/o_1lm_vmAAAJ>
"Oh, you’ve already made it obvious that you don’t hold. I find it interesting
that the stock has such consistent buy recommendations despite what looks
like nothing much, and has a lot of institutionals holding it. The question
seems to be if they go on a tear of product approvals to sell and it pops to
$500. Even so, a +300% (paper) gain over the past three years isn’t too shabby..."
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.sport.golf/c/yhHlqMZnqVs/m/ZEQ6mj_ZAQAJ>
"Clearly, mine was better, and has been better on any reasonable time frame"
Well, at that date it was at $51 and now its at $94, so that's a +84% gain
over ~3.3 years without any fees. But more significantly, the observation
that institutionals were following its potential was spot-on, as illustrated
by PFE's buyout offer.
Now YMMV on what constitutes a "reasonable" time frame, but for investing
and not gambling, that's longer term, so considering the cited buy 3 years
prior, that would have been at ~$16 which goes to ~$100 via PFE and
assuming a stock swap (this AM: $56.50 w/ 2.84% dividend), that means
that on per $10K basis, $01K/$16 = 62.5 shares *$100 = $62,500; divided
$56.5 buys 1106 shares of PFE, whose dividends are $1.60/share-year
for $1,769.60/yr.
So based on an original investment of just $10K, that's an effective +17.696%
dividend rate of return ... and dividends from a blue chip are safe & passive,
as well as have zero monthly expense fees.
Post by TomS
Also, I am in a holding pattern right now. With the Fed announcing rate hikes
I see more volatility ahead, although I did buy INTC recently.
Tech tends to carry more debt which will be downward pressure on
that sector as interest rates rise; looking at debt ratios can provide
insight too; looks like INTC is a bit better than QCOM (~2.1 vs 1.6)
for example.
My own moves have been to change out some of bond funds to
reduce exposure to higher rates depressing them, as well as shop
for dividend stocks for in a Roth, plus some other things. A higher
presently very high dividend (8%), as the Market's expecting them to
cut their dividend as they've been selling off assets/etc. Others on
the table with a goal of diversification, stability and income generation
currently include: BCE, BBY, CVX, ED, ENB, JNJ, LMT, NVS, VTRS.
Well, ARNA trading ended last week with Pfizer's buyout effective 3/11.
Owners should be seeing the Pfizer cash out arrive his week, at "just"
$100/share...roughly a +30% YoY gain.

In the meantime, Tommy's daytrader pick of TQQQ is down YTD and YoY,
to the point where it has wiped out all of its 2021 gains (plus some).

Recalling back to when Tommy claimed that I supposedly was "tricking" him
into buying ARNA, if he had done so & held, he'd now have had a +100% gain.

Oh well.

With TQQQ at $44 (down -40% YTD), wonder if Tommy considers it to be a
"buy" yet, or if there's still more downside pain expected for the NASDAQ?

-hh
TomS
2022-03-17 15:29:14 UTC
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Time to check the performance of ARNA relative to TQQQ, which Tommy
recommended instead of ARNA...
YTD / ARNA: unch. ($93.2 to $93.2 interday)
YTD / TQQQ: -20% ($170 to $135 interday)
Next up: "catch a falling knife" recommendations!
Hey Lyin' Asshole, you better check the last 1 year performance.
Oh, you mean where a full third of that paper gain has been wiped out
in just two weeks?
In any event, the past is the past and you've not been making any "buy today!"
or "sell today!" posts to show your prowess. That's why I've noted that you
might try to gamble to catch the current falling knife again.
Of course, NASDAQ's tech sector generally is disfavored in a rising interest
rate environment, so one shouldn't be too surprised if 2022 has less potential
upside (or more losses) than during the 2020/21 era of QE expansions. As
such, is TQQQ currently a "buy"? Likewise, what are your predictions for
someone who's has TQQQ from 2021 from at/hear its high for how long they're
likely have to wait until they're no longer underwater? Days? Weeks? Months?
Longer?
Or are you 'bravely' going to be silent on tangible stuff, so as to not have your
pretend stock trader claims get completely blown up in your face again?
This is an exercise to see WHO's buy recommendation was better - yours
or mine.
No, that's not what it has been.
You'd tried to brag for years about how you're so savvy and profitable/etc, but
you just never showed that by publicly committing to a trade where you
explicitly telegraphed in advance, to prove that you weren't BS'ing after-the-fact.
Post by TomS
Clearly, mine was better, and has been better on any reasonable time frame.
Oh, you've allegedly done a few short sprints - - never documented, per above,
but let's actually go check the archives to see if there ever was an dick-waiving
Back to Sep 12, 2019 [8:04:42 PM]
hh>> For example, let’s hear your investment prognosis on another pharma, ARNA.
TS> Would not touch ARNA - no products for sale, missed last two
TS> earnings estimates, stock chart looks horrible, and analysts
TS> mostly have SELL ratings on it.
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.sport.golf/c/yhHlqMZnqVs/m/o_1lm_vmAAAJ>
"Oh, you’ve already made it obvious that you don’t hold. I find it interesting
that the stock has such consistent buy recommendations despite what looks
like nothing much, and has a lot of institutionals holding it. The question
seems to be if they go on a tear of product approvals to sell and it pops to
$500. Even so, a +300% (paper) gain over the past three years isn’t too shabby..."
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.sport.golf/c/yhHlqMZnqVs/m/ZEQ6mj_ZAQAJ>
"Clearly, mine was better, and has been better on any reasonable time frame"
Well, at that date it was at $51 and now its at $94, so that's a +84% gain
over ~3.3 years without any fees. But more significantly, the observation
that institutionals were following its potential was spot-on, as illustrated
by PFE's buyout offer.
Now YMMV on what constitutes a "reasonable" time frame, but for investing
and not gambling, that's longer term, so considering the cited buy 3 years
prior, that would have been at ~$16 which goes to ~$100 via PFE and
assuming a stock swap (this AM: $56.50 w/ 2.84% dividend), that means
that on per $10K basis, $01K/$16 = 62.5 shares *$100 = $62,500; divided
$56.5 buys 1106 shares of PFE, whose dividends are $1.60/share-year
for $1,769.60/yr.
So based on an original investment of just $10K, that's an effective +17.696%
dividend rate of return ... and dividends from a blue chip are safe & passive,
as well as have zero monthly expense fees.
Post by TomS
Also, I am in a holding pattern right now. With the Fed announcing rate hikes
I see more volatility ahead, although I did buy INTC recently.
Tech tends to carry more debt which will be downward pressure on
that sector as interest rates rise; looking at debt ratios can provide
insight too; looks like INTC is a bit better than QCOM (~2.1 vs 1.6)
for example.
My own moves have been to change out some of bond funds to
reduce exposure to higher rates depressing them, as well as shop
for dividend stocks for in a Roth, plus some other things. A higher
presently very high dividend (8%), as the Market's expecting them to
cut their dividend as they've been selling off assets/etc. Others on
the table with a goal of diversification, stability and income generation
currently include: BCE, BBY, CVX, ED, ENB, JNJ, LMT, NVS, VTRS.
Well, ARNA trading ended last week with Pfizer's buyout effective 3/11.
Owners should be seeing the Pfizer cash out arrive his week, at "just"
$100/share...roughly a +30% YoY gain.
In the meantime, Tommy's daytrader pick of TQQQ is down YTD and YoY,
to the point where it has wiped out all of its 2021 gains (plus some).
Recalling back to when Tommy claimed that I supposedly was "tricking" him
into buying ARNA, if he had done so & held, he'd now have had a +100% gain.
Oh well.
With TQQQ at $44 (down -40% YTD), wonder if Tommy considers it to be a
"buy" yet, or if there's still more downside pain expected for the NASDAQ?
-hh
Smart investors made A LOT of money in TQQQ last year, nearly doubling there money. It is ALL ABOUT having an exit strategy (who here talked about that?). There WILL be a time to enter the market, but I don't think now is it. Oil prices could go way up from here, which will hammer GDP growth - and Lyin' Biden WANTS prices to go up. Buying a bad stock like ARNA is a BAD IDEA, PERIOD! The Lyin' Asshole was losing on it for a long time and would have been FAR BETTER OFF in TQQQ - as I documented.
-hh
2022-03-17 20:41:09 UTC
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Time to check the performance of ARNA relative to TQQQ, which Tommy
recommended instead of ARNA...
YTD / ARNA: unch. ($93.2 to $93.2 interday)
YTD / TQQQ: -20% ($170 to $135 interday)
Next up: "catch a falling knife" recommendations!
Hey Lyin' Asshole, you better check the last 1 year performance.
Oh, you mean where a full third of that paper gain has been wiped out
in just two weeks?
In any event, the past is the past and you've not been making any "buy today!"
or "sell today!" posts to show your prowess. That's why I've noted that you
might try to gamble to catch the current falling knife again.
Of course, NASDAQ's tech sector generally is disfavored in a rising interest
rate environment, so one shouldn't be too surprised if 2022 has less potential
upside (or more losses) than during the 2020/21 era of QE expansions. As
such, is TQQQ currently a "buy"? Likewise, what are your predictions for
someone who's has TQQQ from 2021 from at/hear its high for how long they're
likely have to wait until they're no longer underwater? Days? Weeks? Months?
Longer?
Or are you 'bravely' going to be silent on tangible stuff, so as to not have your
pretend stock trader claims get completely blown up in your face again?
This is an exercise to see WHO's buy recommendation was better - yours
or mine.
No, that's not what it has been.
You'd tried to brag for years about how you're so savvy and profitable/etc, but
you just never showed that by publicly committing to a trade where you
explicitly telegraphed in advance, to prove that you weren't BS'ing after-the-fact.
Post by TomS
Clearly, mine was better, and has been better on any reasonable time frame.
Oh, you've allegedly done a few short sprints - - never documented, per above,
but let's actually go check the archives to see if there ever was an dick-waiving
Back to Sep 12, 2019 [8:04:42 PM]
hh>> For example, let’s hear your investment prognosis on another pharma, ARNA.
TS> Would not touch ARNA - no products for sale, missed last two
TS> earnings estimates, stock chart looks horrible, and analysts
TS> mostly have SELL ratings on it.
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.sport.golf/c/yhHlqMZnqVs/m/o_1lm_vmAAAJ>
"Oh, you’ve already made it obvious that you don’t hold. I find it interesting
that the stock has such consistent buy recommendations despite what looks
like nothing much, and has a lot of institutionals holding it. The question
seems to be if they go on a tear of product approvals to sell and it pops to
$500. Even so, a +300% (paper) gain over the past three years isn’t too shabby..."
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.sport.golf/c/yhHlqMZnqVs/m/ZEQ6mj_ZAQAJ>
"Clearly, mine was better, and has been better on any reasonable time frame"
Well, at that date it was at $51 and now its at $94, so that's a +84% gain
over ~3.3 years without any fees. But more significantly, the observation
that institutionals were following its potential was spot-on, as illustrated
by PFE's buyout offer.
Now YMMV on what constitutes a "reasonable" time frame, but for investing
and not gambling, that's longer term, so considering the cited buy 3 years
prior, that would have been at ~$16 which goes to ~$100 via PFE and
assuming a stock swap (this AM: $56.50 w/ 2.84% dividend), that means
that on per $10K basis, $01K/$16 = 62.5 shares *$100 = $62,500; divided
$56.5 buys 1106 shares of PFE, whose dividends are $1.60/share-year
for $1,769.60/yr.
So based on an original investment of just $10K, that's an effective +17.696%
dividend rate of return ... and dividends from a blue chip are safe & passive,
as well as have zero monthly expense fees.
Post by TomS
Also, I am in a holding pattern right now. With the Fed announcing rate hikes
I see more volatility ahead, although I did buy INTC recently.
Tech tends to carry more debt which will be downward pressure on
that sector as interest rates rise; looking at debt ratios can provide
insight too; looks like INTC is a bit better than QCOM (~2.1 vs 1.6)
for example.
My own moves have been to change out some of bond funds to
reduce exposure to higher rates depressing them, as well as shop
for dividend stocks for in a Roth, plus some other things. A higher
presently very high dividend (8%), as the Market's expecting them to
cut their dividend as they've been selling off assets/etc. Others on
the table with a goal of diversification, stability and income generation
currently include: BCE, BBY, CVX, ED, ENB, JNJ, LMT, NVS, VTRS.
Well, ARNA trading ended last week with Pfizer's buyout effective 3/11.
Owners should be seeing the Pfizer cash out arrive his week, at "just"
$100/share...roughly a +30% YoY gain.
In the meantime, Tommy's daytrader pick of TQQQ is down YTD and YoY,
to the point where it has wiped out all of its 2021 gains (plus some).
Recalling back to when Tommy claimed that I supposedly was "tricking" him
into buying ARNA, if he had done so & held, he'd now have had a +100% gain.
Oh well.
With TQQQ at $44 (down -40% YTD), wonder if Tommy considers it to be a
"buy" yet, or if there's still more downside pain expected for the NASDAQ?
Smart investors made A LOT of money in TQQQ last year, nearly doubling there money.
Only if they cashed out. If they didn't, they're back to square one (flat).
Post by TomS
It is ALL ABOUT having an exit strategy (who here talked about that?).
Oh, you've talked, but you did not actually commit.
As the saying goes, "Talk is cheap."
Post by TomS
There WILL be a time to enter the market, but I don't think now is it.
Gosh, Tommy continues his unwillingness to commitment! /s
Post by TomS
Oil prices could go way up from here, which will hammer GDP growth
...and Lyin' Biden WANTS prices to go up....
Depends on the timeline, which you've conveniently left very vague.
Post by TomS
Buying a bad stock like ARNA is a BAD IDEA, PERIOD!
Too late for you, Tommy: its been removed from trading, and
was paid out at $100/share.
Post by TomS
The Lyin' Asshole was losing on it for a long time...
That claim requires knowing my cost basis. So how about you
show us how you know what my cost basis was? Afterall, you've
heard me mention 300% returns back when it was under $50.
Simply put, anyone who bought & held within the past decade
has ended up making money: the only room for you to complain
is rate of return .. but that isn't done outside of risk contexts.
Post by TomS
...and would have
been FAR BETTER OFF in TQQQ - as I documented.
Not for 2022 it wouldn't: -40% YTD.

Plus a quality portfolio has investment diversity; since you don't
know my portfolio contents, you have no insight on if TQQQ would
have been a good fit, or if it would have been an unbalancing risk.

In the meantime, the performance of others I previously mentioned;
not quite YTD, but a ~week prior. Note that these weren't growth
prospects, but for a dividend revenue stream (as noted):

BCE (DIV 5.3%) +5%
BBY (DIV 3.5%) +2%
CVX (DIV 3.5%) +37%
ED (DIV 3.5%) +7%
ENB (DIV 6%) +18%
JNJ (DIV 2.4%) +5%
LMT (DIV 2.6%) +24%
NVS (DIV 2.5%) -0%
VTRS (DIV 4.5%) -21%

FYI, for most of these, they're even better than the initial impression,
as the Dividend rate shown is at the current price, not its purchase
price. The DIV vs PURCH is more like (CVX): (3.5%)/(1-.37) = 5.55%


-hh
TomS
2022-03-18 04:30:24 UTC
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Time to check the performance of ARNA relative to TQQQ, which Tommy
recommended instead of ARNA...
YTD / ARNA: unch. ($93.2 to $93.2 interday)
YTD / TQQQ: -20% ($170 to $135 interday)
Next up: "catch a falling knife" recommendations!
Hey Lyin' Asshole, you better check the last 1 year performance.
Oh, you mean where a full third of that paper gain has been wiped out
in just two weeks?
In any event, the past is the past and you've not been making any "buy today!"
or "sell today!" posts to show your prowess. That's why I've noted that you
might try to gamble to catch the current falling knife again.
Of course, NASDAQ's tech sector generally is disfavored in a rising interest
rate environment, so one shouldn't be too surprised if 2022 has less potential
upside (or more losses) than during the 2020/21 era of QE expansions. As
such, is TQQQ currently a "buy"? Likewise, what are your predictions for
someone who's has TQQQ from 2021 from at/hear its high for how long they're
likely have to wait until they're no longer underwater? Days? Weeks? Months?
Longer?
Or are you 'bravely' going to be silent on tangible stuff, so as to not have your
pretend stock trader claims get completely blown up in your face again?
This is an exercise to see WHO's buy recommendation was better - yours
or mine.
No, that's not what it has been.
You'd tried to brag for years about how you're so savvy and profitable/etc, but
you just never showed that by publicly committing to a trade where you
explicitly telegraphed in advance, to prove that you weren't BS'ing after-the-fact.
Post by TomS
Clearly, mine was better, and has been better on any reasonable time frame.
Oh, you've allegedly done a few short sprints - - never documented, per above,
but let's actually go check the archives to see if there ever was an dick-waiving
Back to Sep 12, 2019 [8:04:42 PM]
hh>> For example, let’s hear your investment prognosis on another pharma, ARNA.
TS> Would not touch ARNA - no products for sale, missed last two
TS> earnings estimates, stock chart looks horrible, and analysts
TS> mostly have SELL ratings on it.
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.sport.golf/c/yhHlqMZnqVs/m/o_1lm_vmAAAJ>
"Oh, you’ve already made it obvious that you don’t hold. I find it interesting
that the stock has such consistent buy recommendations despite what looks
like nothing much, and has a lot of institutionals holding it. The question
seems to be if they go on a tear of product approvals to sell and it pops to
$500. Even so, a +300% (paper) gain over the past three years isn’t too shabby..."
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.sport.golf/c/yhHlqMZnqVs/m/ZEQ6mj_ZAQAJ>
"Clearly, mine was better, and has been better on any reasonable time frame"
Well, at that date it was at $51 and now its at $94, so that's a +84% gain
over ~3.3 years without any fees. But more significantly, the observation
that institutionals were following its potential was spot-on, as illustrated
by PFE's buyout offer.
Now YMMV on what constitutes a "reasonable" time frame, but for investing
and not gambling, that's longer term, so considering the cited buy 3 years
prior, that would have been at ~$16 which goes to ~$100 via PFE and
assuming a stock swap (this AM: $56.50 w/ 2.84% dividend), that means
that on per $10K basis, $01K/$16 = 62.5 shares *$100 = $62,500; divided
$56.5 buys 1106 shares of PFE, whose dividends are $1.60/share-year
for $1,769.60/yr.
So based on an original investment of just $10K, that's an effective +17.696%
dividend rate of return ... and dividends from a blue chip are safe & passive,
as well as have zero monthly expense fees.
Post by TomS
Also, I am in a holding pattern right now. With the Fed announcing rate hikes
I see more volatility ahead, although I did buy INTC recently.
Tech tends to carry more debt which will be downward pressure on
that sector as interest rates rise; looking at debt ratios can provide
insight too; looks like INTC is a bit better than QCOM (~2.1 vs 1.6)
for example.
My own moves have been to change out some of bond funds to
reduce exposure to higher rates depressing them, as well as shop
for dividend stocks for in a Roth, plus some other things. A higher
presently very high dividend (8%), as the Market's expecting them to
cut their dividend as they've been selling off assets/etc. Others on
the table with a goal of diversification, stability and income generation
currently include: BCE, BBY, CVX, ED, ENB, JNJ, LMT, NVS, VTRS.
Well, ARNA trading ended last week with Pfizer's buyout effective 3/11.
Owners should be seeing the Pfizer cash out arrive his week, at "just"
$100/share...roughly a +30% YoY gain.
In the meantime, Tommy's daytrader pick of TQQQ is down YTD and YoY,
to the point where it has wiped out all of its 2021 gains (plus some).
Recalling back to when Tommy claimed that I supposedly was "tricking" him
into buying ARNA, if he had done so & held, he'd now have had a +100% gain.
Oh well.
With TQQQ at $44 (down -40% YTD), wonder if Tommy considers it to be a
"buy" yet, or if there's still more downside pain expected for the NASDAQ?
Smart investors made A LOT of money in TQQQ last year, nearly doubling there money.
Only if they cashed out. If they didn't, they're back to square one (flat).
"Only?" EVERYONE sells sooner or later - you DIDN'T bother to ask me back then. If you had I would have told you to take profits - nothing runs up forever, asshole.
Post by TomS
It is ALL ABOUT having an exit strategy (who here talked about that?).
Oh, you've talked, but you did not actually commit.
As the saying goes, "Talk is cheap."
LOL! You ASKED and I ANSWERED, Lyin' Asshole (this is why I call you that!!!).
Post by TomS
There WILL be a time to enter the market, but I don't think now is it.
Gosh, Tommy continues his unwillingness to commitment! /s
Post by TomS
Oil prices could go way up from here, which will hammer GDP growth
...and Lyin' Biden WANTS prices to go up....
Depends on the timeline, which you've conveniently left very vague.
The "timeline" is VERY definite: 1/20/2021 to NOW, Asshole!
Post by TomS
Buying a bad stock like ARNA is a BAD IDEA, PERIOD!
Too late for you, Tommy: its been removed from trading, and
was paid out at $100/share.
I NEVER invested, and would NEVER invest, so it is immaterial to me.
Post by TomS
The Lyin' Asshole was losing on it for a long time...
That claim requires knowing my cost basis. So how about you
show us how you know what my cost basis was? Afterall, you've
heard me mention 300% returns back when it was under $50.
Simply put, anyone who bought & held within the past decade
has ended up making money: the only room for you to complain
is rate of return .. but that isn't done outside of risk contexts.
I detailed how you were LOSING money on ARNA vs TQQQ several times: go look it up.
Post by TomS
...and would have
been FAR BETTER OFF in TQQQ - as I documented.
Not for 2022 it wouldn't: -40% YTD.
Plus a quality portfolio has investment diversity; since you don't
know my portfolio contents, you have no insight on if TQQQ would
have been a good fit, or if it would have been an unbalancing risk.
Irrelevant.
In the meantime, the performance of others I previously mentioned;
not quite YTD, but a ~week prior. Note that these weren't growth
BCE (DIV 5.3%) +5%
BBY (DIV 3.5%) +2%
CVX (DIV 3.5%) +37%
ED (DIV 3.5%) +7%
ENB (DIV 6%) +18%
JNJ (DIV 2.4%) +5%
LMT (DIV 2.6%) +24%
NVS (DIV 2.5%) -0%
VTRS (DIV 4.5%) -21%
Off topic, asshole.
FYI, for most of these, they're even better than the initial impression,
as the Dividend rate shown is at the current price, not its purchase
price. The DIV vs PURCH is more like (CVX): (3.5%)/(1-.37) = 5.55%
Ditto.
-hh
-hh
2022-03-18 11:04:03 UTC
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Time to check the performance of ARNA relative to TQQQ, which Tommy
recommended instead of ARNA...
YTD / ARNA: unch. ($93.2 to $93.2 interday)
YTD / TQQQ: -20% ($170 to $135 interday)
Next up: "catch a falling knife" recommendations!
Hey Lyin' Asshole, you better check the last 1 year performance.
Oh, you mean where a full third of that paper gain has been wiped out
in just two weeks?
In any event, the past is the past and you've not been making any "buy today!"
or "sell today!" posts to show your prowess. That's why I've noted that you
might try to gamble to catch the current falling knife again.
Of course, NASDAQ's tech sector generally is disfavored in a rising interest
rate environment, so one shouldn't be too surprised if 2022 has less potential
upside (or more losses) than during the 2020/21 era of QE expansions. As
such, is TQQQ currently a "buy"? Likewise, what are your predictions for
someone who's has TQQQ from 2021 from at/hear its high for how long they're
likely have to wait until they're no longer underwater? Days? Weeks? Months?
Longer?
Or are you 'bravely' going to be silent on tangible stuff, so as to not have your
pretend stock trader claims get completely blown up in your face again?
This is an exercise to see WHO's buy recommendation was better - yours
or mine.
No, that's not what it has been.
You'd tried to brag for years about how you're so savvy and profitable/etc, but
you just never showed that by publicly committing to a trade where you
explicitly telegraphed in advance, to prove that you weren't BS'ing after-the-fact.
Post by TomS
Clearly, mine was better, and has been better on any reasonable time frame.
Oh, you've allegedly done a few short sprints - - never documented, per above,
but let's actually go check the archives to see if there ever was an dick-waiving
Back to Sep 12, 2019 [8:04:42 PM]
hh>> For example, let’s hear your investment prognosis on another pharma, ARNA.
TS> Would not touch ARNA - no products for sale, missed last two
TS> earnings estimates, stock chart looks horrible, and analysts
TS> mostly have SELL ratings on it.
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.sport.golf/c/yhHlqMZnqVs/m/o_1lm_vmAAAJ>
"Oh, you’ve already made it obvious that you don’t hold. I find it interesting
that the stock has such consistent buy recommendations despite what looks
like nothing much, and has a lot of institutionals holding it. The question
seems to be if they go on a tear of product approvals to sell and it pops to
$500. Even so, a +300% (paper) gain over the past three years isn’t too shabby..."
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.sport.golf/c/yhHlqMZnqVs/m/ZEQ6mj_ZAQAJ>
"Clearly, mine was better, and has been better on any reasonable time frame"
Well, at that date it was at $51 and now its at $94, so that's a +84% gain
over ~3.3 years without any fees. But more significantly, the observation
that institutionals were following its potential was spot-on, as illustrated
by PFE's buyout offer.
Now YMMV on what constitutes a "reasonable" time frame, but for investing
and not gambling, that's longer term, so considering the cited buy 3 years
prior, that would have been at ~$16 which goes to ~$100 via PFE and
assuming a stock swap (this AM: $56.50 w/ 2.84% dividend), that means
that on per $10K basis, $01K/$16 = 62.5 shares *$100 = $62,500; divided
$56.5 buys 1106 shares of PFE, whose dividends are $1.60/share-year
for $1,769.60/yr.
So based on an original investment of just $10K, that's an effective +17.696%
dividend rate of return ... and dividends from a blue chip are safe & passive,
as well as have zero monthly expense fees.
Post by TomS
Also, I am in a holding pattern right now. With the Fed announcing rate hikes
I see more volatility ahead, although I did buy INTC recently.
Tech tends to carry more debt which will be downward pressure on
that sector as interest rates rise; looking at debt ratios can provide
insight too; looks like INTC is a bit better than QCOM (~2.1 vs 1.6)
for example.
My own moves have been to change out some of bond funds to
reduce exposure to higher rates depressing them, as well as shop
for dividend stocks for in a Roth, plus some other things. A higher
presently very high dividend (8%), as the Market's expecting them to
cut their dividend as they've been selling off assets/etc. Others on
the table with a goal of diversification, stability and income generation
currently include: BCE, BBY, CVX, ED, ENB, JNJ, LMT, NVS, VTRS.
Well, ARNA trading ended last week with Pfizer's buyout effective 3/11.
Owners should be seeing the Pfizer cash out arrive his week, at "just"
$100/share...roughly a +30% YoY gain.
In the meantime, Tommy's daytrader pick of TQQQ is down YTD and YoY,
to the point where it has wiped out all of its 2021 gains (plus some).
Recalling back to when Tommy claimed that I supposedly was "tricking" him
into buying ARNA, if he had done so & held, he'd now have had a +100% gain.
Oh well.
With TQQQ at $44 (down -40% YTD), wonder if Tommy considers it to be a
"buy" yet, or if there's still more downside pain expected for the NASDAQ?
Smart investors made A LOT of money in TQQQ last year, nearly doubling there money.
Only if they cashed out. If they didn't, they're back to square one (flat).
"Only?" EVERYONE sells sooner or later - you DIDN'T bother to ask me back then.
Nonsense: I've often mocked you for not having prepublished what your exist
criteria is ... don't you remember how mad you got when you finally said +10%
but then missed it by a few dollars?
Post by TomS
If you had I would have told you to take profits - nothing runs up forever, asshole.
But isn't this "run up forever" precisely the point of the TQQQ leveraged fund?

Just like how its evil twin SQQQ is the "short forever"?
Post by TomS
Post by TomS
It is ALL ABOUT having an exit strategy (who here talked about that?).
Oh, you've talked, but you did not actually commit.
As the saying goes, "Talk is cheap."
LOL! You ASKED and I ANSWERED, Lyin' Asshole (this is why I call you that!!!).
Sorry, nope: you've never committed to saying "I"m buying TQQQ tomorrow at
$A and my strategy is to hold it for B days or $C, whichever comes first.

The closest you've come to that is the above "10% gain" that you mentioned in
midstream, but then slightly missed.
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Post by TomS
There WILL be a time to enter the market, but I don't think now is it.
Gosh, Tommy continues his unwillingness to commitment! /s
Silence from Tommy!
Post by TomS
Post by TomS
Oil prices could go way up from here, which will hammer GDP growth
...and Lyin' Biden WANTS prices to go up....
Depends on the timeline, which you've conveniently left very vague.
The "timeline" is VERY definite: 1/20/2021 to NOW, Asshole!
Nope, that's in the past: we cannot make investments retroactively.
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Post by TomS
Buying a bad stock like ARNA is a BAD IDEA, PERIOD!
Too late for you, Tommy: its been removed from trading, and
was paid out at $100/share.
I NEVER invested, and would NEVER invest, so it is immaterial to me.
Oh, you've been quite heavily invested in ARNA ... but it was emotional, not fiscal.

That's why you were pounding away at your keyboard for this post.
Post by TomS
Post by TomS
The Lyin' Asshole was losing on it for a long time...
That claim requires knowing my cost basis. So how about you
show us how you know what my cost basis was? Afterall, you've
heard me mention 300% returns back when it was under $50.
Simply put, anyone who bought & held within the past decade
has ended up making money: the only room for you to complain
is rate of return .. but that isn't done outside of risk contexts.
I detailed how you were LOSING money on ARNA vs TQQQ several times: go look it up.
That was your retrospective attempt, and the problem that you have
with it is that in applying the same retrospect for 2021 to date, the opposite
is true.

By the same token I could say "but Tommy, you should have bought AAPL at $7".
Post by TomS
Post by TomS
...and would have
been FAR BETTER OFF in TQQQ - as I documented.
Not for 2022 it wouldn't: -40% YTD.
Plus a quality portfolio has investment diversity; since you don't
know my portfolio contents, you have no insight on if TQQQ would
have been a good fit, or if it would have been an unbalancing risk.
Irrelevant.
Diversification may be unimportant to gamblers, but I'm talking of investing.
Post by TomS
In the meantime, the performance of others I previously mentioned;
not quite YTD, but a ~week prior. Note that these weren't growth
BCE (DIV 5.3%) +5%
BBY (DIV 3.5%) +2%
CVX (DIV 3.5%) +37%
ED (DIV 3.5%) +7%
ENB (DIV 6%) +18%
JNJ (DIV 2.4%) +5%
LMT (DIV 2.6%) +24%
NVS (DIV 2.5%) -0%
VTRS (DIV 4.5%) -21%
Off topic, asshole.
Incorrect, for this list was included way back in January for a reason,
which was to not be afraid to publicly show picks. These aren't on the
block to be traded but are a medium period hold; above is their first
~90 days performance. You're free to check on them quarterly too.
Post by TomS
FYI, for most of these, they're even better than the initial impression,
as the Dividend rate shown is at the current price, not its purchase
price. The DIV vs PURCH is more like (CVX): (3.5%)/(1-.37) = 5.55%
Ditto.
Nah, its merely noting the effective yields because this package was
picked based upon dividend yields (in lieu of CDs/Bonds) while also
seeking relative price stability similar to same.

FYI, others in this camp could be AT&T (T), but it has higher instability
risks for a variety of reasons, including debts and because of their
now-announced dividend cut (from 8% to 4%); holding T depends on
how much exposure one wants to the telecom sector and deciding
on who, such as if BCE (above) is a better/worse fit for one's criteria;
ditto VZ (Verizon), etc, etc.


-hh
TomS
2022-03-25 02:41:20 UTC
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Time to check the performance of ARNA relative to TQQQ, which Tommy
recommended instead of ARNA...
YTD / ARNA: unch. ($93.2 to $93.2 interday)
YTD / TQQQ: -20% ($170 to $135 interday)
Next up: "catch a falling knife" recommendations!
Hey Lyin' Asshole, you better check the last 1 year performance.
Oh, you mean where a full third of that paper gain has been wiped out
in just two weeks?
In any event, the past is the past and you've not been making any "buy today!"
or "sell today!" posts to show your prowess. That's why I've noted that you
might try to gamble to catch the current falling knife again.
Of course, NASDAQ's tech sector generally is disfavored in a rising interest
rate environment, so one shouldn't be too surprised if 2022 has less potential
upside (or more losses) than during the 2020/21 era of QE expansions. As
such, is TQQQ currently a "buy"? Likewise, what are your predictions for
someone who's has TQQQ from 2021 from at/hear its high for how long they're
likely have to wait until they're no longer underwater? Days? Weeks? Months?
Longer?
Or are you 'bravely' going to be silent on tangible stuff, so as to not have your
pretend stock trader claims get completely blown up in your face again?
This is an exercise to see WHO's buy recommendation was better - yours
or mine.
No, that's not what it has been.
You'd tried to brag for years about how you're so savvy and profitable/etc, but
you just never showed that by publicly committing to a trade where you
explicitly telegraphed in advance, to prove that you weren't BS'ing after-the-fact.
Post by TomS
Clearly, mine was better, and has been better on any reasonable time frame.
Oh, you've allegedly done a few short sprints - - never documented, per above,
but let's actually go check the archives to see if there ever was an dick-waiving
Back to Sep 12, 2019 [8:04:42 PM]
hh>> For example, let’s hear your investment prognosis on another pharma, ARNA.
TS> Would not touch ARNA - no products for sale, missed last two
TS> earnings estimates, stock chart looks horrible, and analysts
TS> mostly have SELL ratings on it.
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.sport.golf/c/yhHlqMZnqVs/m/o_1lm_vmAAAJ>
"Oh, you’ve already made it obvious that you don’t hold. I find it interesting
that the stock has such consistent buy recommendations despite what looks
like nothing much, and has a lot of institutionals holding it. The question
seems to be if they go on a tear of product approvals to sell and it pops to
$500. Even so, a +300% (paper) gain over the past three years isn’t too shabby..."
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.sport.golf/c/yhHlqMZnqVs/m/ZEQ6mj_ZAQAJ>
"Clearly, mine was better, and has been better on any reasonable time frame"
Well, at that date it was at $51 and now its at $94, so that's a +84% gain
over ~3.3 years without any fees. But more significantly, the observation
that institutionals were following its potential was spot-on, as illustrated
by PFE's buyout offer.
Now YMMV on what constitutes a "reasonable" time frame, but for investing
and not gambling, that's longer term, so considering the cited buy 3 years
prior, that would have been at ~$16 which goes to ~$100 via PFE and
assuming a stock swap (this AM: $56.50 w/ 2.84% dividend), that means
that on per $10K basis, $01K/$16 = 62.5 shares *$100 = $62,500; divided
$56.5 buys 1106 shares of PFE, whose dividends are $1.60/share-year
for $1,769.60/yr.
So based on an original investment of just $10K, that's an effective +17.696%
dividend rate of return ... and dividends from a blue chip are safe & passive,
as well as have zero monthly expense fees.
Post by TomS
Also, I am in a holding pattern right now. With the Fed announcing rate hikes
I see more volatility ahead, although I did buy INTC recently.
Tech tends to carry more debt which will be downward pressure on
that sector as interest rates rise; looking at debt ratios can provide
insight too; looks like INTC is a bit better than QCOM (~2.1 vs 1.6)
for example.
My own moves have been to change out some of bond funds to
reduce exposure to higher rates depressing them, as well as shop
for dividend stocks for in a Roth, plus some other things. A higher
presently very high dividend (8%), as the Market's expecting them to
cut their dividend as they've been selling off assets/etc. Others on
the table with a goal of diversification, stability and income generation
currently include: BCE, BBY, CVX, ED, ENB, JNJ, LMT, NVS, VTRS.
Well, ARNA trading ended last week with Pfizer's buyout effective 3/11.
Owners should be seeing the Pfizer cash out arrive his week, at "just"
$100/share...roughly a +30% YoY gain.
In the meantime, Tommy's daytrader pick of TQQQ is down YTD and YoY,
to the point where it has wiped out all of its 2021 gains (plus some).
Recalling back to when Tommy claimed that I supposedly was "tricking" him
into buying ARNA, if he had done so & held, he'd now have had a +100% gain.
Oh well.
With TQQQ at $44 (down -40% YTD), wonder if Tommy considers it to be a
"buy" yet, or if there's still more downside pain expected for the NASDAQ?
Smart investors made A LOT of money in TQQQ last year, nearly doubling there money.
Only if they cashed out. If they didn't, they're back to square one (flat).
"Only?" EVERYONE sells sooner or later - you DIDN'T bother to ask me back then.
Nonsense: I've often mocked you for not having prepublished what your exist
criteria is ... don't you remember how mad you got when you finally said +10%
but then missed it by a few dollars?
Post by TomS
If you had I would have told you to take profits - nothing runs up forever, asshole.
But isn't this "run up forever" precisely the point of the TQQQ leveraged fund?
Just like how its evil twin SQQQ is the "short forever"?
Post by TomS
Post by TomS
It is ALL ABOUT having an exit strategy (who here talked about that?).
Oh, you've talked, but you did not actually commit.
As the saying goes, "Talk is cheap."
LOL! You ASKED and I ANSWERED, Lyin' Asshole (this is why I call you that!!!).
Sorry, nope: you've never committed to saying "I"m buying TQQQ tomorrow at
$A and my strategy is to hold it for B days or $C, whichever comes first.
The closest you've come to that is the above "10% gain" that you mentioned in
midstream, but then slightly missed.
Post by TomS
Post by TomS
There WILL be a time to enter the market, but I don't think now is it.
Gosh, Tommy continues his unwillingness to commitment! /s
Silence from Tommy!
Post by TomS
Post by TomS
Oil prices could go way up from here, which will hammer GDP growth
...and Lyin' Biden WANTS prices to go up....
Depends on the timeline, which you've conveniently left very vague.
The "timeline" is VERY definite: 1/20/2021 to NOW, Asshole!
Nope, that's in the past: we cannot make investments retroactively.
Post by TomS
Post by TomS
Buying a bad stock like ARNA is a BAD IDEA, PERIOD!
Too late for you, Tommy: its been removed from trading, and
was paid out at $100/share.
I NEVER invested, and would NEVER invest, so it is immaterial to me.
Oh, you've been quite heavily invested in ARNA ... but it was emotional, not fiscal.
That's why you were pounding away at your keyboard for this post.
Post by TomS
Post by TomS
The Lyin' Asshole was losing on it for a long time...
That claim requires knowing my cost basis. So how about you
show us how you know what my cost basis was? Afterall, you've
heard me mention 300% returns back when it was under $50.
Simply put, anyone who bought & held within the past decade
has ended up making money: the only room for you to complain
is rate of return .. but that isn't done outside of risk contexts.
I detailed how you were LOSING money on ARNA vs TQQQ several times: go look it up.
That was your retrospective attempt, and the problem that you have
with it is that in applying the same retrospect for 2021 to date, the opposite
is true.
By the same token I could say "but Tommy, you should have bought AAPL at $7".
Post by TomS
Post by TomS
...and would have
been FAR BETTER OFF in TQQQ - as I documented.
Not for 2022 it wouldn't: -40% YTD.
Plus a quality portfolio has investment diversity; since you don't
know my portfolio contents, you have no insight on if TQQQ would
have been a good fit, or if it would have been an unbalancing risk.
Irrelevant.
Diversification may be unimportant to gamblers, but I'm talking of investing.
Post by TomS
In the meantime, the performance of others I previously mentioned;
not quite YTD, but a ~week prior. Note that these weren't growth
BCE (DIV 5.3%) +5%
BBY (DIV 3.5%) +2%
CVX (DIV 3.5%) +37%
ED (DIV 3.5%) +7%
ENB (DIV 6%) +18%
JNJ (DIV 2.4%) +5%
LMT (DIV 2.6%) +24%
NVS (DIV 2.5%) -0%
VTRS (DIV 4.5%) -21%
Off topic, asshole.
Incorrect, for this list was included way back in January for a reason,
which was to not be afraid to publicly show picks. These aren't on the
block to be traded but are a medium period hold; above is their first
~90 days performance. You're free to check on them quarterly too.
Post by TomS
FYI, for most of these, they're even better than the initial impression,
as the Dividend rate shown is at the current price, not its purchase
price. The DIV vs PURCH is more like (CVX): (3.5%)/(1-.37) = 5.55%
Ditto.
Nah, its merely noting the effective yields because this package was
picked based upon dividend yields (in lieu of CDs/Bonds) while also
seeking relative price stability similar to same.
FYI, others in this camp could be AT&T (T), but it has higher instability
risks for a variety of reasons, including debts and because of their
now-announced dividend cut (from 8% to 4%); holding T depends on
how much exposure one wants to the telecom sector and deciding
on who, such as if BCE (above) is a better/worse fit for one's criteria;
ditto VZ (Verizon), etc, etc.
-hh
It's pretty funny how you libtards excuse not taking my advice - at YOUR LOSS!
-hh
2022-03-25 10:16:32 UTC
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Hmm; almost a week. Guess Tommy thinks that readers have
already forgotten how much he's screwed up on this ...
Post by TomS
Post by TomS
Post by TomS
Post by -hh
Post by TomS
Post by -hh
Time to check the performance of ARNA relative to TQQQ, which Tommy
recommended instead of ARNA...
YTD / ARNA: unch. ($93.2 to $93.2 interday)
YTD / TQQQ: -20% ($170 to $135 interday)
Next up: "catch a falling knife" recommendations!
Hey Lyin' Asshole, you better check the last 1 year performance.
Oh, you mean where a full third of that paper gain has been wiped out
in just two weeks?
TQQQ:
10 Jan 2022: $72.30
24 March 2022: $57.02

Hmmm...even worse now, vs when Tommy was arguing this 'YoY' back in January, for
TQQQ's price at that point (to 8 Jan 21, as 10 was a Sunday) was $47.57: with TQQQ
having cratered this past month to $40 on 14 March 22 (underwater vs 8 Jan 21), it is
little wonder why Tommy disappeared. Similarly for 20 Jan 21 when it was $49.49
Of course, now that TQQQ's leveraging has it bouncing back up in a recovery, Tommy
has crawled out from under his gambler's rock, even as he forgets that its YTD is still
quite a bit down (more than 30%) from 1/3/22's $85.57/share.
Post by TomS
Post by TomS
Post by TomS
Smart investors made A LOT of money in TQQQ last year, nearly doubling there money.
Only if they cashed out. If they didn't, they're back to square one (flat).
"Only?" EVERYONE sells sooner or later - you DIDN'T bother to ask me back then.
Nonsense: I've often mocked you for not having prepublished what your exist
criteria is ... don't you remember how mad you got when you finally said +10%
but then missed it by a few dollars?
Plus isn't it interesting how Tommy's not posted his TQQQ buys/sells here in (quasi)
Post by TomS
Post by TomS
Post by TomS
It is ALL ABOUT having an exit strategy (who here talked about that?).
Oh, you've talked, but you did not actually commit.
As the saying goes, "Talk is cheap."
LOL! You ASKED and I ANSWERED, Lyin' Asshole (this is why I call you that!!!).
Sorry, nope: you've never committed to saying "I"m buying TQQQ tomorrow at
$A and my strategy is to hold it for B days or $C, whichever comes first.
The closest you've come to that is the above "10% gain" that you mentioned in
midstream, but then slightly missed.
IIRC, think this was on Chevron (CVX)
Post by TomS
Post by TomS
Post by TomS
There WILL be a time to enter the market, but I don't think now is it.
Gosh, Tommy continues his unwillingness to commitment! /s
Silence from Tommy!
Gosh, wonder if I could 'Do a Tommy' to twist what was written two weeks ago
to imply that Tommy should have bought TQQQ then ... because the Monday
Morning Quarterback would now be claiming a $47 --> $57 = +20% gain!
Post by TomS
Nope, that's in the past: we cannot make investments retroactively.
Drat! /s
Post by TomS
Post by TomS
Post by TomS
...and would have
been FAR BETTER OFF in TQQQ - as I documented.
Not for 2022 it wouldn't: -40% YTD.
Now improving to roughly -30% YTD.
Post by TomS
Post by TomS
Plus a quality portfolio has investment diversity; since you don't
know my portfolio contents, you have no insight on if TQQQ would
have been a good fit, or if it would have been an unbalancing risk.
Irrelevant.
Diversification may be unimportant to gamblers, but I'm talking of investing.
Post by TomS
In the meantime, the performance of others I previously mentioned;
not quite YTD, but a ~week prior. Note that these weren't growth
BCE (DIV 5.3%) +5%
BBY (DIV 3.5%) +2%
CVX (DIV 3.5%) +37%
ED (DIV 3.5%) +7%
ENB (DIV 6%) +18%
JNJ (DIV 2.4%) +5%
LMT (DIV 2.6%) +24%
NVS (DIV 2.5%) -0%
VTRS (DIV 4.5%) -21%
Off topic, asshole.
Incorrect, for this list was included way back in January for a reason,
which was to not be afraid to publicly show picks. These aren't on the
block to be traded but are a medium period hold; above is their first
~90 days performance. You're free to check on them quarterly too.
[...]
Post by TomS
...[plus consider] the effective yields because this package was
picked based upon dividend yields (in lieu of CDs/Bonds) while also
seeking relative price stability similar to same.
FYI, others in this camp could be AT&T (T), but it has higher instability
risks for a variety of reasons, including debts and because of their
now-announced dividend cut (from 8% to 4%); holding T depends on
how much exposure one wants to the telecom sector and deciding
on who, such as if BCE (above) is a better/worse fit for one's criteria;
ditto VZ (Verizon), etc, etc.
It's pretty funny how you libtards excuse not taking my advice - at YOUR LOSS!
Quite humorous indeed to be able to sleep easy from a portfolio slice that
despite being 100% Stocks is steady & doing fine during a high volatility period.
Kinda says something nice about investment diversification vs gambling! /s

-hh
Bigbird
2022-03-18 16:38:57 UTC
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Post by TomS
Buying a bad stock like ARNA is a BAD IDEA, PERIOD! The Lyin' Asshole
was losing on it for a long time and would have been FAR BETTER OFF
in TQQQ - as I documented.
"...was losing on it for a long time..."

One of those dumb statements which expose lack of knowledge, experience
and comprehension.

Dementia is a mental disability.
--
Bozo bin
Felicity
George R
Irving S
Texasgate
Enjoy!
-hh
2022-03-18 17:34:12 UTC
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Post by Bigbird
Post by TomS
Buying a bad stock like ARNA is a BAD IDEA, PERIOD! The Lyin' Asshole
was losing on it for a long time and would have been FAR BETTER OFF
in TQQQ - as I documented.
"...was losing on it for a long time..."
What Tommy was probably trying to say that he personally lacks the
patience & discipline to wait through a long flat period. Overall, that's
why his behavior is much more of a gambler than of an investor.
Post by Bigbird
One of those dumb statements which expose lack of knowledge,
experience and comprehension.
Profoundly so, as Tommy was reminded that he didn't know the Cost Basis,
and its just kinda important to know that in order to determine if an investment
ends up being gain, or a loss.

-hh
Tom Elam
2022-03-19 14:56:38 UTC
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Post by -hh
Time to check the performance of ARNA relative to TQQQ, which Tommy
recommended instead of ARNA...
YTD / ARNA: unch. ($93.2 to $93.2 interday)
YTD / TQQQ: -20% ($170 to $135 interday)
Next up: "catch a falling knife" recommendations!
-hh
Time to check my move from ATT to Chevron that you poo-pooed as "oil stocks are too volatile".

July 2, 2000
ATT 30.08
Chevron 88.31

March 18, 2002
ATT 23.22
Chevron 161.73

I'm bought Chevron for the 6% dividend yield that has dropped as the stock price increased. ATT was also yielding about 6% at the time but going nowhere on price or dividends. In a few months the ATT dividend is going to get chopped while Chevron just increased dividends by 6%.

I am certain that the Chevron stock price will drop if oil prices recede, but my dividends are safe and likely to increase. I sold my last few ATT shares on June 2, 2021 and bought Chevron at 106.77. Still feeling good about that but from my 2022 RMD funds recently bought JEPI for added dividend income.

The point? Don't listen to stock advice from people who live in small New Jersey houses. If they were any good at it they would not be in a small house or New Jersey.

I listen to my broker. He lives in a $1~ million 5,000+ square foot home in the Crooked Stick Golf Club addition. That's the Carmel course that has hosted PGA and LPGA events + the Solheim Cup. He manages over a billion in other people's money. How much money do you manage Hugh?

Did I tell you that just I traded the 2019 Insight for a new Accord Hybrid Touring? Paid cash. :)
-hh
2022-03-19 15:30:51 UTC
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Post by Tom Elam
Post by -hh
Time to check the performance of ARNA relative to TQQQ, which Tommy
recommended instead of ARNA...
YTD / ARNA: unch. ($93.2 to $93.2 interday)
YTD / TQQQ: -20% ($170 to $135 interday)
Next up: "catch a falling knife" recommendations!
Time to check my move from ATT to Chevron that you poo-pooed as "oil stocks are too volatile".
At times it has been, because ya know ... market conditions do change.
Especially over a 20 year period.

So just when was that comment made? Got cite?


Meantime, the recommendation for portfolio adjustments for a higher inflation
period have been trending towards energy, commodities, etc: here's just one
such SME calling this out from an interview last week, which literally was just
first aired yesterday (i.e., later than this thread):

<https://wealthtrack.com/how-to-reposition-your-portfolio-for-a-new-higher-inflation-era-with-top-strategist-rich-bernstein/>

FYI, the person calling for this is Richard Bernstein ... perhaps you've heard of him?
Post by Tom Elam
July 2, 2000
ATT 30.08
Chevron 88.31
March 18, 2002
ATT 23.22
Chevron 161.73
Think you probably mean 2020 & 2022, not 2000 & 2002.
Post by Tom Elam
I'm bought Chevron for the 6% dividend yield that has dropped as the stock price increased.
Got cite? Because the relevant prior mention of CVX was from Sep 15, 2019, when
you claimed you were buying it at $124 because the attack on Saudi. It failed to pan out
as you had hoped .. which you were reminded of. No mentions of "CVX" in 2020 by anyone.
Post by Tom Elam
The point? Don't listen to stock advice from people who live in small New Jersey houses.
If they were any good at it they would not be in a small house or New Jersey.
Because Tommy can only 'pick on' the one property that he's aware of that we own?
Post by Tom Elam
I listen to my broker. He lives in a $1~ million 5,000+ square foot home...
Paid for by the fees he charges you ... too bad you don't live in a $1M 5K house yourself.
Post by Tom Elam
Did I tell you that just I traded the 2019 Insight for a new Accord Hybrid Touring? Paid cash. :)
Is that supposed to be more impressive than claiming that all of one's Porsche purchases
were done as cash, and also also without any trade-in to reduce the outlay? /s


-hh
-hh
2022-03-20 20:20:26 UTC
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Post by -hh
Post by Tom Elam
Post by -hh
Time to check the performance of ARNA relative to TQQQ, which Tommy
recommended instead of ARNA...
YTD / ARNA: unch. ($93.2 to $93.2 interday)
YTD / TQQQ: -20% ($170 to $135 interday)
Next up: "catch a falling knife" recommendations!
Time to check my move from ATT to Chevron that you poo-pooed as "oil stocks are too volatile".
At times it has been, because ya know ... market conditions do change.
Especially over a 20 year period.
So just when was that comment made? Got cite?
Gosh, golly ... no response from old Tom.

BTW, even checking on 'hh' and 'oil', there were only three hits, one of which
was barely relevant at all, which noted that with the onset of CoVid and lockdowns
that oil dropped.
Post by -hh
Meantime, the recommendation for portfolio adjustments for a higher inflation
period have been trending towards energy, commodities, etc: here's just one
such SME calling this out from an interview last week, which literally was just
<https://wealthtrack.com/how-to-reposition-your-portfolio-for-a-new-higher-inflation-era-with-top-strategist-rich-bernstein/>
FYI, the person calling for this is Richard Bernstein ... perhaps you've heard of him?
Maybe Tom would be more interested in hearing about his FL hero, DeSantis: his reported
net worth in 2018 was $283,604 and then $291,449 at the end of 2019, and then $348,832
at the end of 2020 ... but has suddenly zoomed to be reportedly worth $52M today, just 15
months later: his official 2021 EoY filing should be quite interesting...stay tuned.

<https://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/politics/fl-ne-nsf-desantis-net-worth-20210621-xxqfzxbt5zeufkluweusvgwuny-story.html>
Post by -hh
Post by Tom Elam
July 2, 2000
ATT 30.08
Chevron 88.31
March 18, 2002
ATT 23.22
Chevron 161.73
Think you probably mean 2020 & 2022, not 2000 & 2002.
Post by Tom Elam
I'm bought Chevron for the 6% dividend yield that has dropped as the stock price increased.
Got cite? Because the relevant prior mention of CVX was from Sep 15, 2019, when
you claimed you were buying it at $124 because the attack on Saudi. It failed to pan out
as you had hoped .. which you were reminded of. No mentions of "CVX" in 2020 by anyone.
Even a very broad search on just 'Chevron' instead of 'CVX' doesn't show any posts prior to this
one since in 2021 or 2020. Next most recent one was from August 2015, and was about a
shooting of a police officer at a Chevron gas station:

<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.sport.golf/search?q=Chevron>
Post by -hh
Post by Tom Elam
The point? Don't listen to stock advice from people who live in small New Jersey houses.
If they were any good at it they would not be in a small house or New Jersey.
Because Tommy can only 'pick on' the one property that he's aware of that we own?
Post by Tom Elam
I listen to my broker. He lives in a $1~ million 5,000+ square foot home...
Paid for by the fees he charges you ... too bad you don't live in a $1M 5K house yourself.
Post by Tom Elam
Did I tell you that just I traded the 2019 Insight for a new Accord Hybrid Touring? Paid cash. :)
Is that supposed to be more impressive than claiming that all of one's Porsche purchases
were done as cash, and also also without any trade-in to reduce the outlay? /s
-hh
Tom Elam
2022-03-23 14:30:42 UTC
Permalink
Post by -hh
Post by -hh
Post by Tom Elam
Post by -hh
Time to check the performance of ARNA relative to TQQQ, which Tommy
recommended instead of ARNA...
YTD / ARNA: unch. ($93.2 to $93.2 interday)
YTD / TQQQ: -20% ($170 to $135 interday)
Next up: "catch a falling knife" recommendations!
Time to check my move from ATT to Chevron that you poo-pooed as "oil stocks are too volatile".
At times it has been, because ya know ... market conditions do change.
Especially over a 20 year period.
So just when was that comment made? Got cite?
Gosh, golly ... no response from old Tom.
BTW, even checking on 'hh' and 'oil', there were only three hits, one of which
was barely relevant at all, which noted that with the onset of CoVid and lockdowns
that oil dropped.
Post by -hh
Meantime, the recommendation for portfolio adjustments for a higher inflation
period have been trending towards energy, commodities, etc: here's just one
such SME calling this out from an interview last week, which literally was just
<https://wealthtrack.com/how-to-reposition-your-portfolio-for-a-new-higher-inflation-era-with-top-strategist-rich-bernstein/>
FYI, the person calling for this is Richard Bernstein ... perhaps you've heard of him?
Maybe Tom would be more interested in hearing about his FL hero, DeSantis: his reported
net worth in 2018 was $283,604 and then $291,449 at the end of 2019, and then $348,832
at the end of 2020 ... but has suddenly zoomed to be reportedly worth $52M today, just 15
months later: his official 2021 EoY filing should be quite interesting...stay tuned.
<https://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/politics/fl-ne-nsf-desantis-net-worth-20210621-xxqfzxbt5zeufkluweusvgwuny-story.html>
Post by -hh
Post by Tom Elam
July 2, 2000
ATT 30.08
Chevron 88.31
March 18, 2002
ATT 23.22
Chevron 161.73
Think you probably mean 2020 & 2022, not 2000 & 2002.
Post by Tom Elam
I'm bought Chevron for the 6% dividend yield that has dropped as the stock price increased.
Got cite? Because the relevant prior mention of CVX was from Sep 15, 2019, when
you claimed you were buying it at $124 because the attack on Saudi. It failed to pan out
as you had hoped .. which you were reminded of. No mentions of "CVX" in 2020 by anyone.
Even a very broad search on just 'Chevron' instead of 'CVX' doesn't show any posts prior to this
one since in 2021 or 2020. Next most recent one was from August 2015, and was about a
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.sport.golf/search?q=Chevron>
Post by -hh
Post by Tom Elam
The point? Don't listen to stock advice from people who live in small New Jersey houses.
If they were any good at it they would not be in a small house or New Jersey.
Because Tommy can only 'pick on' the one property that he's aware of that we own?
Post by Tom Elam
I listen to my broker. He lives in a $1~ million 5,000+ square foot home...
Paid for by the fees he charges you ... too bad you don't live in a $1M 5K house yourself.
Post by Tom Elam
Did I tell you that just I traded the 2019 Insight for a new Accord Hybrid Touring? Paid cash. :)
Is that supposed to be more impressive than claiming that all of one's Porsche purchases
were done as cash, and also also without any trade-in to reduce the outlay? /s
-hh
Your search failed. From July 26, 2020:

https://groups.google.com/g/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/c/Skn3VVQ2Hoc/m/BTj676jcDQAJ

Me:

That's pretty much my plan. We have about 12 months of cash in the bank.
Post by -hh
I have a dividend account with AT&T and Chevron, yield about 6.5% of cost.
Chevron not especially for current yield but a solid record of dividend increases.
You:

Energy stocks are vulnerable to a lot of the Market uncertainty risk, although
much of that should be passed. I've been debating utilities as a "sufficiently boring"
flight to safety. Overall, I'm looking more towards those who have low corporate
debt, as the Fed's Unlimited Quanitative Easing is good to be holding prices up
today, but they don't have a viable exit plan on how to "unwind" it, and the last
two times they tried, the market tanked. This weekend's "Wealthtrack" was
interesting in that they had a Bond Fund guy who basically recommended against
his product; said a 30yr mortgage seems about the best investment to make
right now - - but I'm afraid that this assumes no collapse in housing market
prices because of evictions, over-leveraged landlords, etc. I suspect that
commercial real estate (e.g., office buildings, malls) are an even higher risk.
-hh
2022-03-23 19:15:09 UTC
Permalink
Post by Tom Elam
Post by -hh
Post by -hh
Post by Tom Elam
Post by -hh
Time to check the performance of ARNA relative to TQQQ, which Tommy
recommended instead of ARNA...
YTD / ARNA: unch. ($93.2 to $93.2 interday)
YTD / TQQQ: -20% ($170 to $135 interday)
Next up: "catch a falling knife" recommendations!
Time to check my move from ATT to Chevron that you poo-pooed as "oil stocks are too volatile".
At times it has been, because ya know ... market conditions do change.
Especially over a 20 year period.
So just when was that comment made? Got cite?
Gosh, golly ... no response from old Tom.
BTW, even checking on 'hh' and 'oil', there were only three hits, one of which
was barely relevant at all, which noted that with the onset of CoVid and lockdowns
that oil dropped.
Post by -hh
Meantime, the recommendation for portfolio adjustments for a higher inflation
period have been trending towards energy, commodities, etc: here's just one
such SME calling this out from an interview last week, which literally was just
<https://wealthtrack.com/how-to-reposition-your-portfolio-for-a-new-higher-inflation-era-with-top-strategist-rich-bernstein/>
FYI, the person calling for this is Richard Bernstein ... perhaps you've heard of him?
Maybe Tom would be more interested in hearing about his FL hero, DeSantis: his reported
net worth in 2018 was $283,604 and then $291,449 at the end of 2019, and then $348,832
at the end of 2020 ... but has suddenly zoomed to be reportedly worth $52M today, just 15
months later: his official 2021 EoY filing should be quite interesting...stay tuned.
<https://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/politics/fl-ne-nsf-desantis-net-worth-20210621-xxqfzxbt5zeufkluweusvgwuny-story.html>
Post by -hh
Post by Tom Elam
July 2, 2000
ATT 30.08
Chevron 88.31
March 18, 2002
ATT 23.22
Chevron 161.73
Think you probably mean 2020 & 2022, not 2000 & 2002.
Post by Tom Elam
I'm bought Chevron for the 6% dividend yield that has dropped as the stock price increased.
Got cite? Because the relevant prior mention of CVX was from Sep 15, 2019, when
you claimed you were buying it at $124 because the attack on Saudi. It failed to pan out
as you had hoped .. which you were reminded of. No mentions of "CVX" in 2020 by anyone.
Even a very broad search on just 'Chevron' instead of 'CVX' doesn't show any posts prior to this
one since in 2021 or 2020. Next most recent one was from August 2015, and was about a
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.sport.golf/search?q=Chevron>
Post by -hh
Post by Tom Elam
The point? Don't listen to stock advice from people who live in small New Jersey houses.
If they were any good at it they would not be in a small house or New Jersey.
Because Tommy can only 'pick on' the one property that he's aware of that we own?
Post by Tom Elam
I listen to my broker. He lives in a $1~ million 5,000+ square foot home...
Paid for by the fees he charges you ... too bad you don't live in a $1M 5K house yourself.
Post by Tom Elam
Did I tell you that just I traded the 2019 Insight for a new Accord Hybrid Touring? Paid cash. :)
Is that supposed to be more impressive than claiming that all of one's Porsche purchases
were done as cash, and also also without any trade-in to reduce the outlay? /s
https://groups.google.com/g/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/c/Skn3VVQ2Hoc/m/BTj676jcDQAJ
Not really: I thought I was still replying to Tom Seim, not you, and as such,
was searching rec.sport.golf thusly:

<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.sport.golf/search?q=hh%20CVX>
Post by Tom Elam
That's pretty much my plan. We have about 12 months of cash in the bank.
Post by -hh
I have a dividend account with AT&T and Chevron, yield about 6.5% of cost.
Chevron not especially for current yield but a solid record of dividend increases.
Energy stocks are vulnerable to a lot of the Market uncertainty risk, although
much of that should be passed. I've been debating utilities as a "sufficiently boring"
flight to safety....
Sure, and that was from July 2020, when oil was at ~$40/barrel. Likewise, my
previous post noted:

"IMO, the current concerns are:
a. "Double Dip" recession
b. High Inflation
c. Stagflation"

So then, how do you want to call it? Nailed (b) a good six months before
it became news, and likewise (c) with similar leadtime as well? Likewise,
the "R" word has been bandied about too as an ongoing risk, so a case
can be made that this went "3 for 3" in contemporary risks identification,
although I'd not really put the 2022 recession risk as still due to the same
factors and delayed enough it shouldn't be considered to be a double-dip,
so I'll settle for just a 2/3 = .667 batting average.


-hh
Tom Elam
2022-03-26 14:39:03 UTC
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Time to check the performance of ARNA relative to TQQQ, which Tommy
recommended instead of ARNA...
YTD / ARNA: unch. ($93.2 to $93.2 interday)
YTD / TQQQ: -20% ($170 to $135 interday)
Next up: "catch a falling knife" recommendations!
Time to check my move from ATT to Chevron that you poo-pooed as "oil stocks are too volatile".
At times it has been, because ya know ... market conditions do change.
Especially over a 20 year period.
So just when was that comment made? Got cite?
Gosh, golly ... no response from old Tom.
BTW, even checking on 'hh' and 'oil', there were only three hits, one of which
was barely relevant at all, which noted that with the onset of CoVid and lockdowns
that oil dropped.
Post by -hh
Meantime, the recommendation for portfolio adjustments for a higher inflation
period have been trending towards energy, commodities, etc: here's just one
such SME calling this out from an interview last week, which literally was just
<https://wealthtrack.com/how-to-reposition-your-portfolio-for-a-new-higher-inflation-era-with-top-strategist-rich-bernstein/>
FYI, the person calling for this is Richard Bernstein ... perhaps you've heard of him?
Maybe Tom would be more interested in hearing about his FL hero, DeSantis: his reported
net worth in 2018 was $283,604 and then $291,449 at the end of 2019, and then $348,832
at the end of 2020 ... but has suddenly zoomed to be reportedly worth $52M today, just 15
months later: his official 2021 EoY filing should be quite interesting...stay tuned.
<https://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/politics/fl-ne-nsf-desantis-net-worth-20210621-xxqfzxbt5zeufkluweusvgwuny-story.html>
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Post by Tom Elam
July 2, 2000
ATT 30.08
Chevron 88.31
March 18, 2002
ATT 23.22
Chevron 161.73
Think you probably mean 2020 & 2022, not 2000 & 2002.
Post by Tom Elam
I'm bought Chevron for the 6% dividend yield that has dropped as the stock price increased.
Got cite? Because the relevant prior mention of CVX was from Sep 15, 2019, when
you claimed you were buying it at $124 because the attack on Saudi. It failed to pan out
as you had hoped .. which you were reminded of. No mentions of "CVX" in 2020 by anyone.
Even a very broad search on just 'Chevron' instead of 'CVX' doesn't show any posts prior to this
one since in 2021 or 2020. Next most recent one was from August 2015, and was about a
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.sport.golf/search?q=Chevron>
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Post by Tom Elam
The point? Don't listen to stock advice from people who live in small New Jersey houses.
If they were any good at it they would not be in a small house or New Jersey.
Because Tommy can only 'pick on' the one property that he's aware of that we own?
Post by Tom Elam
I listen to my broker. He lives in a $1~ million 5,000+ square foot home...
Paid for by the fees he charges you ... too bad you don't live in a $1M 5K house yourself.
Post by Tom Elam
Did I tell you that just I traded the 2019 Insight for a new Accord Hybrid Touring? Paid cash. :)
Is that supposed to be more impressive than claiming that all of one's Porsche purchases
were done as cash, and also also without any trade-in to reduce the outlay? /s
https://groups.google.com/g/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/c/Skn3VVQ2Hoc/m/BTj676jcDQAJ
Not really: I thought I was still replying to Tom Seim, not you, and as such,
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.sport.golf/search?q=hh%20CVX>
Post by Tom Elam
That's pretty much my plan. We have about 12 months of cash in the bank.
Post by -hh
I have a dividend account with AT&T and Chevron, yield about 6.5% of cost.
Chevron not especially for current yield but a solid record of dividend increases.
Energy stocks are vulnerable to a lot of the Market uncertainty risk, although
much of that should be passed. I've been debating utilities as a "sufficiently boring"
flight to safety....
Sure, and that was from July 2020, when oil was at ~$40/barrel. Likewise, my
a. "Double Dip" recession
b. High Inflation
c. Stagflation"
So then, how do you want to call it? Nailed (b) a good six months before
it became news, and likewise (c) with similar leadtime as well? Likewise,
the "R" word has been bandied about too as an ongoing risk, so a case
can be made that this went "3 for 3" in contemporary risks identification,
although I'd not really put the 2022 recession risk as still due to the same
factors and delayed enough it shouldn't be considered to be a double-dip,
so I'll settle for just a 2/3 = .667 batting average.
-hh
And as I pointed out I bought Chevron for the dividends. The company has a solid record of increasing them, AT&T not so much. I also pointed out (which you ignored above) that oil prices will recede and along with that Chevron stock price. I score you a .000 for and honest reply admitting that my thought process is sound given my financial goals.
-hh
2022-03-26 15:19:25 UTC
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And as I pointed out I bought Chevron for the dividends.
Not here in RSG you didn’t.

Even before noting that this conversation had been with the other Tom.

-hh
TomS
2022-03-28 02:04:42 UTC
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And as I pointed out I bought Chevron for the dividends.
Not here in RSG you didn’t.
Even before noting that this conversation had been with the other Tom.
-hh
Forget what these assholes have to say; if you tell them to buy XYZ they reply with "you didn't say the day, hour and minute you bought it and what you paid for it." These assholes could have made HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS off of my recommendations, but they are TOO STUPID to act on them! They know it, which is why they claim it is MY FAULT that my recommendation wasn't specific enough. Go figure...
-hh
2022-03-28 03:08:08 UTC
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And as I pointed out I bought Chevron for the dividends.
Not here in RSG you didn’t.
Even before noting that this conversation had been with the other Tom.
-hh
Forget what these assholes have to say; if you tell them to buy XYZ they
reply with "you didn't say the day, hour and minute you bought it and what
you paid for it."
That statement makes no sense because of how you’ve gotten it so scrambled:
the history was that you typically only claimed a successful trade “win” only after
it was complete….and likewise, you didn’t even know that your own brokerage
does provide buy/sell records which have date w/time recorded within.
Post by TomS
These assholes could have made HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS
off of my recommendations, but they are TOO STUPID to act on them!
In the meantime, we’ve made millions by not listening to your drivel /s
Post by TomS
They know it, which is why they claim it is MY FAULT that my recommendation
wasn't specific enough. Go figure...
When said “recommendations” are along the lines of buying AAPL ten years
prior … they’re downright useless.

Likewise, much of your stuff has been merely trying to brag about your own
market gambles… and were cherry-picked almost all the time, which enables
you to hide your failures. Gosh that’s convenient! /s

-hh
Tom Elam
2022-03-31 13:29:13 UTC
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And as I pointed out I bought Chevron for the dividends.
Not here in RSG you didn’t.
Even before noting that this conversation had been with the other Tom.
-hh
I pointed it out TO YOU in CSMA.
-hh
2022-03-31 20:09:07 UTC
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And as I pointed out I bought Chevron for the dividends.
Not here in RSG you didn’t.
Even before noting that this conversation had been with the other Tom.
I pointed it out TO YOU in CSMA.
This isn't CSMA, but is RSG & why I was replying to Tom S, not Tom E.


-hh
-hh
2022-05-19 15:17:18 UTC
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Well, after yesterday's correction, seems about right to pull on Tommy's chain
again on how well his 'TQQQ' is doing.

Meantime...

BCE (DIV 5.3%) +2.3%
BBY (DIV 3.5%) -23%
CVX (DIV 3.5%) +40%
ED (DIV 3.5%) +12%
ENB (DIV 6%) +16%
JNJ (DIV 2.4%) +3.3%
LMT (DIV 2.6%) +22%
NVS (DIV 2.5%) +1.8%
VTRS (DIV 4.5%) -14%
--------------------------------------

Total portfolio slice is still net positive 'YTD', by +6.1%, which contrasts ever
so slightly to the likes of Tommy's TQQQ being down by a mere -66%.


-hh
TomS
2022-05-21 02:37:55 UTC
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Well, after yesterday's correction, seems about right to pull on Tommy's chain
again on how well his 'TQQQ' is doing.
Meantime...
BCE (DIV 5.3%) +2.3%
BBY (DIV 3.5%) -23%
CVX (DIV 3.5%) +40%
ED (DIV 3.5%) +12%
ENB (DIV 6%) +16%
JNJ (DIV 2.4%) +3.3%
LMT (DIV 2.6%) +22%
NVS (DIV 2.5%) +1.8%
VTRS (DIV 4.5%) -14%
--------------------------------------
Total portfolio slice is still net positive 'YTD', by +6.1%, which contrasts ever
so slightly to the likes of Tommy's TQQQ being down by a mere -66%.
-hh
The Lyin' Asshole doesn't even follow his own advice and have an exit strategy - so sad!
-hh
2022-05-21 12:27:01 UTC
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Post by -hh
Well, after yesterday's correction, seems about right to pull on Tommy's chain
again on how well his 'TQQQ' is doing.
Meantime...
BCE (DIV 5.3%) +2.3%
BBY (DIV 3.5%) -23%
CVX (DIV 3.5%) +40%
ED (DIV 3.5%) +12%
ENB (DIV 6%) +16%
JNJ (DIV 2.4%) +3.3%
LMT (DIV 2.6%) +22%
NVS (DIV 2.5%) +1.8%
VTRS (DIV 4.5%) -14%
--------------------------------------
Total portfolio slice is still net positive 'YTD', by +6.1%, which contrasts ever
so slightly to the likes of Tommy's TQQQ being down by a mere -66%.
The Lyin' Asshole doesn't even follow his own advice and have an exit strategy - so sad!
You never asked.

In actuality, this slice isn’t my money: POA fiduciary for a senior family member who’s
in assisted living. Sold their house last year, probably top of the market in retrospect.
Goals are mid-term income with capital preservation, to be liquidated after their LTC
insurance runs out, which means LTCG tax rates if any (could go into Estate).

So far, It’s say that the capital preservation is doing quite well compared to the Market,
would you not agree? Likewise, the returns are much better than CDs or similar. I did
contemplate I-Bonds, but they’re limited to just $10K/yr and this slice is more than a
full order of magnitude larger.

So…how’s your TQQQ doing again? /s

-hh
-hh
2022-08-22 19:10:18 UTC
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Well, after yesterday's correction, seems about right to pull on Tommy's
chain again on how well his 'TQQQ' is doing.
Meantime...
Probably time to check these again; midday 22 Aug 22
Post by -hh
[YTD's were as of 19 May 2022]
BCE (DIV 5.3%) +2.3% Aug --> -2.81%
BBY (DIV 3.5%) -23% Aug --> -20.43%
CVX (DIV 3.5%) +40% Aug --> +33.69%
ED (DIV 3.5%) +12% Aug --> +18.11%
ENB (DIV 6%) +16% Aug --> +13.26%
JNJ (DIV 2.4%) +3.3% Aug --> -0.32%
LMT (DIV 2.6%) +22% Aug --> +25.64%
NVS (DIV 2.5%) +1.8% Aug --> -2.74%
VTRS (DIV 4.5%) -14% Aug --> -22.55%
--------------------------------------
Total portfolio slice is still net positive 'YTD', by +6.1%, which contrasts ever
so slightly to the likes of Tommy's TQQQ being down by a mere -66%.
8/22/22 Update:
YTD is still positive, at +4.65% whereas TQQQ at $32.4 is in the red at -62% ... although
to be fair, that is a four point recovery since May. Of course, this +4.65% is before
dividends (roughly +2.5%), so one could say that it is effectively at +7% YTD.


-hh
-hh
2022-12-19 01:51:49 UTC
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Well, after yesterday's correction, seems about right to pull on Tommy's
chain again on how well his 'TQQQ' is doing.
Meantime...
Probably time to check these again; midday 22 Aug 22
Post by -hh
[YTD's were as of 19 May 2022]
BCE (DIV 5.3%) +2.3% Aug --> -2.81%
BBY (DIV 3.5%) -23% Aug --> -20.43%
CVX (DIV 3.5%) +40% Aug --> +33.69%
ED (DIV 3.5%) +12% Aug --> +18.11%
ENB (DIV 6%) +16% Aug --> +13.26%
JNJ (DIV 2.4%) +3.3% Aug --> -0.32%
LMT (DIV 2.6%) +22% Aug --> +25.64%
NVS (DIV 2.5%) +1.8% Aug --> -2.74%
VTRS (DIV 4.5%) -14% Aug --> -22.55%
--------------------------------------
Total portfolio slice is still net positive 'YTD', by +6.1%, which contrasts ever
so slightly to the likes of Tommy's TQQQ being down by a mere -66%.
YTD is still positive, at +4.65% whereas TQQQ at $32.4 is in the red at -62% ... although
to be fair, that is a four point recovery since May. Of course, this +4.65% is before
dividends (roughly +2.5%), so one could say that it is effectively at +7% YTD.
Been way too long since reporting back on this...

BCE (DIV 5.3%) -14%
BBY (DIV 3.5%) -18%
CVX (DIV 3.5%) +44%
ED (DIV 3.5%) +13%
ENB (DIV 6%) +1%
JNJ (DIV 2.4%) +5%
LMT (DIV 2.6%) +39%
NVS (DIV 2.5%) +4%
VTRS (DIV 4.5%) -18%

Total portfolio slice is still net positive 'YTD', by +5.54% on Equities values...plus, of
course, the dividends spun off...roughly another +3.77%, so approx. +9% paper return.


-hh
-hh
2022-12-20 13:47:02 UTC
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Well, after yesterday's correction, seems about right to pull on Tommy's
chain again on how well his 'TQQQ' is doing.
Meantime...
Probably time to check these again; midday 22 Aug 22
Post by -hh
[YTD's were as of 19 May 2022]
BCE (DIV 5.3%) +2.3% Aug --> -2.81%
BBY (DIV 3.5%) -23% Aug --> -20.43%
CVX (DIV 3.5%) +40% Aug --> +33.69%
ED (DIV 3.5%) +12% Aug --> +18.11%
ENB (DIV 6%) +16% Aug --> +13.26%
JNJ (DIV 2.4%) +3.3% Aug --> -0.32%
LMT (DIV 2.6%) +22% Aug --> +25.64%
NVS (DIV 2.5%) +1.8% Aug --> -2.74%
VTRS (DIV 4.5%) -14% Aug --> -22.55%
--------------------------------------
Total portfolio slice is still net positive 'YTD', by +6.1%, which contrasts ever
so slightly to the likes of Tommy's TQQQ being down by a mere -66%.
YTD is still positive, at +4.65% whereas TQQQ at $32.4 is in the red at -62% ... although
to be fair, that is a four point recovery since May. Of course, this +4.65% is before
dividends (roughly +2.5%), so one could say that it is effectively at +7% YTD.
Been way too long since reporting back on this...
BCE (DIV 5.3%) -14%
BBY (DIV 3.5%) -18%
CVX (DIV 3.5%) +44%
ED (DIV 3.5%) +13%
ENB (DIV 6%) +1%
JNJ (DIV 2.4%) +5%
LMT (DIV 2.6%) +39%
NVS (DIV 2.5%) +4%
VTRS (DIV 4.5%) -18%
Total portfolio slice is still net positive 'YTD', by +5.54% on Equities values...plus, of
course, the dividends spun off...roughly another +3.77%, so approx. +9% paper return.
Apologies, forgot to include the comparison back to TQQQ for Tommy.

TQQQ (close yesterday) at $18.27 ... down -17% since Tommy's claimed purchase of it
at $22.00, executed back on 5 Dec 2022:

<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.sport.golf/c/ooGucHaSsFI/m/DpkT6VenAwAJ>

...but who (besides Tommy) is counting? /s

-hh
-hh
2023-01-30 22:26:15 UTC
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Well, after yesterday's correction, seems about right to pull on Tommy's
chain again on how well his 'TQQQ' is doing.
Meantime...
Probably time to check these again; midday 22 Aug 22
Post by -hh
[YTD's were as of 19 May 2022]
BCE (DIV 5.3%) +2.3% Aug --> -2.81%
BBY (DIV 3.5%) -23% Aug --> -20.43%
CVX (DIV 3.5%) +40% Aug --> +33.69%
ED (DIV 3.5%) +12% Aug --> +18.11%
ENB (DIV 6%) +16% Aug --> +13.26%
JNJ (DIV 2.4%) +3.3% Aug --> -0.32%
LMT (DIV 2.6%) +22% Aug --> +25.64%
NVS (DIV 2.5%) +1.8% Aug --> -2.74%
VTRS (DIV 4.5%) -14% Aug --> -22.55%
--------------------------------------
Total portfolio slice is still net positive 'YTD', by +6.1%, which contrasts ever
so slightly to the likes of Tommy's TQQQ being down by a mere -66%.
YTD is still positive, at +4.65% whereas TQQQ at $32.4 is in the red at -62% ... although
to be fair, that is a four point recovery since May. Of course, this +4.65% is before
dividends (roughly +2.5%), so one could say that it is effectively at +7% YTD.
Been way too long since reporting back on this...
BCE (DIV 5.3%) -14%
BBY (DIV 3.5%) -18%
CVX (DIV 3.5%) +44%
ED (DIV 3.5%) +13%
ENB (DIV 6%) +1%
JNJ (DIV 2.4%) +5%
LMT (DIV 2.6%) +39%
NVS (DIV 2.5%) +4%
VTRS (DIV 4.5%) -18%
Total portfolio slice is still net positive 'YTD', by +5.54% on Equities values...plus, of
course, the dividends spun off...roughly another +3.77%, so approx. +9% paper return.
30 Jan update:

+7.34% appreciation, plus the dividends, so roughly a 10%-11% YoY return.
Post by -hh
Apologies, forgot to include the comparison back to TQQQ for Tommy.
TQQQ (close yesterday) at $18.27 ... down -17% since Tommy's claimed purchase of it
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.sport.golf/c/ooGucHaSsFI/m/DpkT6VenAwAJ>
Tommy's silent, of course, as TQQQ's back under $22/share.

-hh
Tommy
2023-02-02 02:52:35 UTC
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Well, after yesterday's correction, seems about right to pull on Tommy's
chain again on how well his 'TQQQ' is doing.
Meantime...
Probably time to check these again; midday 22 Aug 22
Post by -hh
[YTD's were as of 19 May 2022]
BCE (DIV 5.3%) +2.3% Aug --> -2.81%
BBY (DIV 3.5%) -23% Aug --> -20.43%
CVX (DIV 3.5%) +40% Aug --> +33.69%
ED (DIV 3.5%) +12% Aug --> +18.11%
ENB (DIV 6%) +16% Aug --> +13.26%
JNJ (DIV 2.4%) +3.3% Aug --> -0.32%
LMT (DIV 2.6%) +22% Aug --> +25.64%
NVS (DIV 2.5%) +1.8% Aug --> -2.74%
VTRS (DIV 4.5%) -14% Aug --> -22.55%
--------------------------------------
Total portfolio slice is still net positive 'YTD', by +6.1%, which contrasts ever
so slightly to the likes of Tommy's TQQQ being down by a mere -66%.
YTD is still positive, at +4.65% whereas TQQQ at $32.4 is in the red at -62% ... although
to be fair, that is a four point recovery since May. Of course, this +4.65% is before
dividends (roughly +2.5%), so one could say that it is effectively at +7% YTD.
Been way too long since reporting back on this...
BCE (DIV 5.3%) -14%
BBY (DIV 3.5%) -18%
CVX (DIV 3.5%) +44%
ED (DIV 3.5%) +13%
ENB (DIV 6%) +1%
JNJ (DIV 2.4%) +5%
LMT (DIV 2.6%) +39%
NVS (DIV 2.5%) +4%
VTRS (DIV 4.5%) -18%
Total portfolio slice is still net positive 'YTD', by +5.54% on Equities values...plus, of
course, the dividends spun off...roughly another +3.77%, so approx. +9% paper return.
+7.34% appreciation, plus the dividends, so roughly a 10%-11% YoY return.
Post by -hh
Apologies, forgot to include the comparison back to TQQQ for Tommy.
TQQQ (close yesterday) at $18.27 ... down -17% since Tommy's claimed purchase of it
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.sport.golf/c/ooGucHaSsFI/m/DpkT6VenAwAJ>
Tommy's silent, of course, as TQQQ's back under $22/share.
-hh
Well, let's look at how Lyin' Asshole's strategy played out. The Fed announced today a 0.25% rate hike and indicated they were close to the end of rate hikes. This is what I was anticipating, and the market responded accordingly. TQQQ is now at 24.39, giving me about an 11% gain in less than 90 days - not bad. More importantly, the trajectory going forward is much more likely to be up than down. Meanwhile, the Lyin' Asshole has his thumb up his ass, not knowing what to do, but what else is new?
-hh
2023-02-02 04:50:30 UTC
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Well, after yesterday's correction, seems about right to pull on Tommy's
chain again on how well his 'TQQQ' is doing.
Meantime...
Probably time to check these again; midday 22 Aug 22
Post by -hh
[YTD's were as of 19 May 2022]
BCE (DIV 5.3%) +2.3% Aug --> -2.81%
BBY (DIV 3.5%) -23% Aug --> -20.43%
CVX (DIV 3.5%) +40% Aug --> +33.69%
ED (DIV 3.5%) +12% Aug --> +18.11%
ENB (DIV 6%) +16% Aug --> +13.26%
JNJ (DIV 2.4%) +3.3% Aug --> -0.32%
LMT (DIV 2.6%) +22% Aug --> +25.64%
NVS (DIV 2.5%) +1.8% Aug --> -2.74%
VTRS (DIV 4.5%) -14% Aug --> -22.55%
--------------------------------------
Total portfolio slice is still net positive 'YTD', by +6.1%, which contrasts ever
so slightly to the likes of Tommy's TQQQ being down by a mere -66%.
YTD is still positive, at +4.65% whereas TQQQ at $32.4 is in the red at -62% ... although
to be fair, that is a four point recovery since May. Of course, this +4.65% is before
dividends (roughly +2.5%), so one could say that it is effectively at +7% YTD.
Been way too long since reporting back on this...
BCE (DIV 5.3%) -14%
BBY (DIV 3.5%) -18%
CVX (DIV 3.5%) +44%
ED (DIV 3.5%) +13%
ENB (DIV 6%) +1%
JNJ (DIV 2.4%) +5%
LMT (DIV 2.6%) +39%
NVS (DIV 2.5%) +4%
VTRS (DIV 4.5%) -18%
Total portfolio slice is still net positive 'YTD', by +5.54% on Equities values...plus, of
course, the dividends spun off...roughly another +3.77%, so approx. +9% paper return.
+7.34% appreciation, plus the dividends, so roughly a 10%-11% YoY return.
Post by -hh
Apologies, forgot to include the comparison back to TQQQ for Tommy.
TQQQ (close yesterday) at $18.27 ... down -17% since Tommy's claimed purchase of it
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.sport.golf/c/ooGucHaSsFI/m/DpkT6VenAwAJ>
Tommy's silent, of course, as TQQQ's back under $22/share.
-hh
Well, let's look at how Lyin' Asshole's strategy played out.
I figured you'd crawl back as soon as you were 'safely' above water.
Post by Tommy
The Fed announced today a 0.25% rate hike and indicated they were close to the end of rate hikes.
Not sure what you're reading, because:

"The Fed Raises Rates a Quarter Point and Signals More Ahead

America’s central bank has shifted into a new phase, raising rates
more slowly as inflation shows signs of moderating."

<https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/01/business/federal-reserve-interest-rates.html>

It includes a statement of "...“a couple more” rate increases..." too.
Post by Tommy
This is what I was anticipating, and the market responded accordingly.
TQQQ is now at 24.39, giving me about an 11% gain in less than 90 days - not bad.
So? Does that mean that you sold today?
Post by Tommy
More importantly, the trajectory going forward is much more likely to be up than down.
Yes, that's what the Fed said: "...“a couple more” rate increases...".
Or did you mean to suggest something else?
Post by Tommy
Meanwhile, the Lyin' Asshole has his thumb up his ass, not knowing what to do, but what else is new?
Golly, looks like Mr. Senile forgot that someone mentioned buying TQQQ in December
at lower than a $22/share price, which mathematically means better than +11%:

[quote]
12/27/22 update: TQQQ low & close: $16.72 & $16.84
Looks like I can expect some paperwork in the mail from a certain limit order...
[/quote]

Hmmm...that suggests something north of +40%, doesn't it?

-hh
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2023-02-02 13:59:47 UTC
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Well, after yesterday's correction, seems about right to pull on Tommy's
chain again on how well his 'TQQQ' is doing.
Meantime...
Probably time to check these again; midday 22 Aug 22
Post by -hh
[YTD's were as of 19 May 2022]
BCE (DIV 5.3%) +2.3% Aug --> -2.81%
BBY (DIV 3.5%) -23% Aug --> -20.43%
CVX (DIV 3.5%) +40% Aug --> +33.69%
ED (DIV 3.5%) +12% Aug --> +18.11%
ENB (DIV 6%) +16% Aug --> +13.26%
JNJ (DIV 2.4%) +3.3% Aug --> -0.32%
LMT (DIV 2.6%) +22% Aug --> +25.64%
NVS (DIV 2.5%) +1.8% Aug --> -2.74%
VTRS (DIV 4.5%) -14% Aug --> -22.55%
--------------------------------------
Total portfolio slice is still net positive 'YTD', by +6.1%, which contrasts ever
so slightly to the likes of Tommy's TQQQ being down by a mere -66%.
YTD is still positive, at +4.65% whereas TQQQ at $32.4 is in the red at -62% ... although
to be fair, that is a four point recovery since May. Of course, this +4.65% is before
dividends (roughly +2.5%), so one could say that it is effectively at +7% YTD.
Been way too long since reporting back on this...
BCE (DIV 5.3%) -14%
BBY (DIV 3.5%) -18%
CVX (DIV 3.5%) +44%
ED (DIV 3.5%) +13%
ENB (DIV 6%) +1%
JNJ (DIV 2.4%) +5%
LMT (DIV 2.6%) +39%
NVS (DIV 2.5%) +4%
VTRS (DIV 4.5%) -18%
Total portfolio slice is still net positive 'YTD', by +5.54% on Equities values...plus, of
course, the dividends spun off...roughly another +3.77%, so approx. +9% paper return.
+7.34% appreciation, plus the dividends, so roughly a 10%-11% YoY return.
Post by -hh
Apologies, forgot to include the comparison back to TQQQ for Tommy.
TQQQ (close yesterday) at $18.27 ... down -17% since Tommy's claimed purchase of it
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.sport.golf/c/ooGucHaSsFI/m/DpkT6VenAwAJ>
Tommy's silent, of course, as TQQQ's back under $22/share.
-hh
Well, let's look at how Lyin' Asshole's strategy played out.
I figured you'd crawl back as soon as you were 'safely' above water.
Post by Tommy
The Fed announced today a 0.25% rate hike and indicated they were close to the end of rate hikes.
"The Fed Raises Rates a Quarter Point and Signals More Ahead
America’s central bank has shifted into a new phase, raising rates
more slowly as inflation shows signs of moderating."
<https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/01/business/federal-reserve-interest-rates.html>
It includes a statement of "...“a couple more” rate increases..." too.
Plus today, the European Bank does a +0.5% rate hike, with a "more to come":

<https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-02-02/ecb-interest-rate-hike-half-point-with-pledge-of-more-to-come>
Post by -hh
Post by Tommy
This is what I was anticipating, and the market responded accordingly.
TQQQ is now at 24.39, giving me about an 11% gain in less than 90 days - not bad.
So? Does that mean that you sold today?
Because paper gains aren't locked in (of course).
Post by -hh
Post by Tommy
More importantly, the trajectory going forward is much more likely to be up than down.
Yes, that's what the Fed said: "...“a couple more” rate increases...".
Or did you mean to suggest something else?
Post by Tommy
Meanwhile, the Lyin' Asshole has his thumb up his ass, not knowing what to do, but what else is new?
Golly, looks like Mr. Senile forgot that someone mentioned buying TQQQ in December
[quote]
12/27/22 update: TQQQ low & close: $16.72 & $16.84
Looks like I can expect some paperwork in the mail from a certain limit order...
[/quote]
Hmmm...that suggests something north of +40%, doesn't it?
Meantime, I've been pricing airline tickets this week, as we now have one trip now
slotted in. Maybe its time to spend more to travel in style? Debating also between
trips to Ireland vs Japan too...plus got notice that the lottery opened yesterday for
New Year's concert by the Vienna Philharmonic, so threw a hat into the ring to try
to score those tickets, which would necessitate another trip. Unlikely though, as
the last time we looked at doing that (pre-CoVid) the odds on a Category 1 was
in the 5%-10% range.


-hh
-hh
2023-02-02 19:14:21 UTC
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Post by -hh
Post by Tommy
Post by -hh
Post by -hh
Post by -hh
Post by -hh
Post by -hh
Well, after yesterday's correction, seems about right to pull on Tommy's
chain again on how well his 'TQQQ' is doing.
Meantime...
Probably time to check these again; midday 22 Aug 22
Post by -hh
[YTD's were as of 19 May 2022]
BCE (DIV 5.3%) +2.3% Aug --> -2.81%
BBY (DIV 3.5%) -23% Aug --> -20.43%
CVX (DIV 3.5%) +40% Aug --> +33.69%
ED (DIV 3.5%) +12% Aug --> +18.11%
ENB (DIV 6%) +16% Aug --> +13.26%
JNJ (DIV 2.4%) +3.3% Aug --> -0.32%
LMT (DIV 2.6%) +22% Aug --> +25.64%
NVS (DIV 2.5%) +1.8% Aug --> -2.74%
VTRS (DIV 4.5%) -14% Aug --> -22.55%
--------------------------------------
Total portfolio slice is still net positive 'YTD', by +6.1%, which contrasts ever
so slightly to the likes of Tommy's TQQQ being down by a mere -66%.
YTD is still positive, at +4.65% whereas TQQQ at $32.4 is in the red at -62% ... although
to be fair, that is a four point recovery since May. Of course, this +4.65% is before
dividends (roughly +2.5%), so one could say that it is effectively at +7% YTD.
Been way too long since reporting back on this...
BCE (DIV 5.3%) -14%
BBY (DIV 3.5%) -18%
CVX (DIV 3.5%) +44%
ED (DIV 3.5%) +13%
ENB (DIV 6%) +1%
JNJ (DIV 2.4%) +5%
LMT (DIV 2.6%) +39%
NVS (DIV 2.5%) +4%
VTRS (DIV 4.5%) -18%
Total portfolio slice is still net positive 'YTD', by +5.54% on Equities values...plus, of
course, the dividends spun off...roughly another +3.77%, so approx. +9% paper return.
+7.34% appreciation, plus the dividends, so roughly a 10%-11% YoY return.
Post by -hh
Apologies, forgot to include the comparison back to TQQQ for Tommy.
TQQQ (close yesterday) at $18.27 ... down -17% since Tommy's claimed purchase of it
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.sport.golf/c/ooGucHaSsFI/m/DpkT6VenAwAJ>
Tommy's silent, of course, as TQQQ's back under $22/share.
-hh
Well, let's look at how Lyin' Asshole's strategy played out.
I figured you'd crawl back as soon as you were 'safely' above water.
Post by Tommy
The Fed announced today a 0.25% rate hike and indicated they were close to the end of rate hikes.
"The Fed Raises Rates a Quarter Point and Signals More Ahead
America’s central bank has shifted into a new phase, raising rates
more slowly as inflation shows signs of moderating."
<https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/01/business/federal-reserve-interest-rates.html>
It includes a statement of "...“a couple more” rate increases..." too.
<https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-02-02/ecb-interest-rate-hike-half-point-with-pledge-of-more-to-come>
Post by -hh
Post by Tommy
This is what I was anticipating, and the market responded accordingly.
TQQQ is now at 24.39, giving me about an 11% gain in less than 90 days - not bad.
So? Does that mean that you sold today?
Because paper gains aren't locked in (of course).
Post by -hh
Post by Tommy
More importantly, the trajectory going forward is much more likely to be up than down.
Yes, that's what the Fed said: "...“a couple more” rate increases...".
Or did you mean to suggest something else?
Post by Tommy
Meanwhile, the Lyin' Asshole has his thumb up his ass, not knowing what to do, but what else is new?
Golly, looks like Mr. Senile forgot that someone mentioned buying TQQQ in December
[quote]
12/27/22 update: TQQQ low & close: $16.72 & $16.84
Looks like I can expect some paperwork in the mail from a certain limit order...
[/quote]
Hmmm...that suggests something north of +40%, doesn't it?
Meantime, I've been pricing airline tickets this week, as we now have one trip now
slotted in. Maybe its time to spend more to travel in style? Debating also between
trips to Ireland vs Japan too...plus got notice that the lottery opened yesterday for
New Year's concert by the Vienna Philharmonic, so threw a hat into the ring to try
to score those tickets, which would necessitate another trip. Unlikely though, as
the last time we looked at doing that (pre-CoVid) the odds on a Category 1 was
in the 5%-10% range.
URL link for the Vienna Philharmonic's lottery, in case anyone is interested:

<https://www.wienerphilharmoniker.at/en/newyearsconcert#drawing>
<https://verlosung.wienerphilharmoniker.at/en/>

-hh
Tommy
2023-02-03 05:26:00 UTC
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Post by Tommy
Post by -hh
Post by -hh
Post by -hh
Post by -hh
Post by -hh
Well, after yesterday's correction, seems about right to pull on Tommy's
chain again on how well his 'TQQQ' is doing.
Meantime...
Probably time to check these again; midday 22 Aug 22
Post by -hh
[YTD's were as of 19 May 2022]
BCE (DIV 5.3%) +2.3% Aug --> -2.81%
BBY (DIV 3.5%) -23% Aug --> -20.43%
CVX (DIV 3.5%) +40% Aug --> +33.69%
ED (DIV 3.5%) +12% Aug --> +18.11%
ENB (DIV 6%) +16% Aug --> +13.26%
JNJ (DIV 2.4%) +3.3% Aug --> -0.32%
LMT (DIV 2.6%) +22% Aug --> +25.64%
NVS (DIV 2.5%) +1.8% Aug --> -2.74%
VTRS (DIV 4.5%) -14% Aug --> -22.55%
--------------------------------------
Total portfolio slice is still net positive 'YTD', by +6.1%, which contrasts ever
so slightly to the likes of Tommy's TQQQ being down by a mere -66%.
YTD is still positive, at +4.65% whereas TQQQ at $32.4 is in the red at -62% ... although
to be fair, that is a four point recovery since May. Of course, this +4.65% is before
dividends (roughly +2.5%), so one could say that it is effectively at +7% YTD.
Been way too long since reporting back on this...
BCE (DIV 5.3%) -14%
BBY (DIV 3.5%) -18%
CVX (DIV 3.5%) +44%
ED (DIV 3.5%) +13%
ENB (DIV 6%) +1%
JNJ (DIV 2.4%) +5%
LMT (DIV 2.6%) +39%
NVS (DIV 2.5%) +4%
VTRS (DIV 4.5%) -18%
Total portfolio slice is still net positive 'YTD', by +5.54% on Equities values...plus, of
course, the dividends spun off...roughly another +3.77%, so approx. +9% paper return.
+7.34% appreciation, plus the dividends, so roughly a 10%-11% YoY return.
Post by -hh
Apologies, forgot to include the comparison back to TQQQ for Tommy.
TQQQ (close yesterday) at $18.27 ... down -17% since Tommy's claimed purchase of it
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.sport.golf/c/ooGucHaSsFI/m/DpkT6VenAwAJ>
Tommy's silent, of course, as TQQQ's back under $22/share.
-hh
Well, let's look at how Lyin' Asshole's strategy played out.
I figured you'd crawl back as soon as you were 'safely' above water.
Post by Tommy
The Fed announced today a 0.25% rate hike and indicated they were close to the end of rate hikes.
"The Fed Raises Rates a Quarter Point and Signals More Ahead
America’s central bank has shifted into a new phase, raising rates
more slowly as inflation shows signs of moderating."
<https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/01/business/federal-reserve-interest-rates.html>
It includes a statement of "...“a couple more” rate increases..." too.
Post by Tommy
This is what I was anticipating, and the market responded accordingly.
TQQQ is now at 24.39, giving me about an 11% gain in less than 90 days - not bad.
So? Does that mean that you sold today?
So, you STATED that I had a 20% LOSS w/o asking me if I had sold! WHY don't you maintain the same standards????
Post by -hh
Post by Tommy
More importantly, the trajectory going forward is much more likely to be up than down.
Yes, that's what the Fed said: "...“a couple more” rate increases...".
Or did you mean to suggest something else?
Hey Lyin' Asshole, I'm going to give you the MOST IMPORTANT piece of advice yet: the Fed is near the end of their rate increases and the market KNOWS that. Prices have ALREADY factored those increases in and company profits have ABSORBED those increases, so the market is GREEN-LIGHTED for an upside move. In other words, we have already seen the market BOTTOM. Is that clear enough for your peanut-sized brain??????
Post by -hh
Post by Tommy
Meanwhile, the Lyin' Asshole has his thumb up his ass, not knowing what to do, but what else is new?
Golly, looks like Mr. Senile forgot that someone mentioned buying TQQQ in December
Hey LA, did you BUY TQQQ at that price? I DOUBT IT!!!!
Post by -hh
[quote]
12/27/22 update: TQQQ low & close: $16.72 & $16.84
Looks like I can expect some paperwork in the mail from a certain limit order...
[/quote]
Hmmm...that suggests something north of +40%, doesn't it?
Not for you because you DIDN'T BUY IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by -hh
-hh
-hh
2023-02-03 15:03:30 UTC
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Post by -hh
Post by Tommy
Post by -hh
Post by -hh
Post by -hh
Post by -hh
Post by -hh
Well, after yesterday's correction, seems about right to pull on Tommy's
chain again on how well his 'TQQQ' is doing.
Meantime...
Probably time to check these again; midday 22 Aug 22
Post by -hh
[YTD's were as of 19 May 2022]
BCE (DIV 5.3%) +2.3% Aug --> -2.81%
BBY (DIV 3.5%) -23% Aug --> -20.43%
CVX (DIV 3.5%) +40% Aug --> +33.69%
ED (DIV 3.5%) +12% Aug --> +18.11%
ENB (DIV 6%) +16% Aug --> +13.26%
JNJ (DIV 2.4%) +3.3% Aug --> -0.32%
LMT (DIV 2.6%) +22% Aug --> +25.64%
NVS (DIV 2.5%) +1.8% Aug --> -2.74%
VTRS (DIV 4.5%) -14% Aug --> -22.55%
--------------------------------------
Total portfolio slice is still net positive 'YTD', by +6.1%, which contrasts ever
so slightly to the likes of Tommy's TQQQ being down by a mere -66%.
YTD is still positive, at +4.65% whereas TQQQ at $32.4 is in the red at -62% ... although
to be fair, that is a four point recovery since May. Of course, this +4.65% is before
dividends (roughly +2.5%), so one could say that it is effectively at +7% YTD.
Been way too long since reporting back on this...
BCE (DIV 5.3%) -14%
BBY (DIV 3.5%) -18%
CVX (DIV 3.5%) +44%
ED (DIV 3.5%) +13%
ENB (DIV 6%) +1%
JNJ (DIV 2.4%) +5%
LMT (DIV 2.6%) +39%
NVS (DIV 2.5%) +4%
VTRS (DIV 4.5%) -18%
Total portfolio slice is still net positive 'YTD', by +5.54% on Equities values...plus, of
course, the dividends spun off...roughly another +3.77%, so approx. +9% paper return.
+7.34% appreciation, plus the dividends, so roughly a 10%-11% YoY return.
Post by -hh
Apologies, forgot to include the comparison back to TQQQ for Tommy.
TQQQ (close yesterday) at $18.27 ... down -17% since Tommy's claimed purchase of it
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.sport.golf/c/ooGucHaSsFI/m/DpkT6VenAwAJ>
Tommy's silent, of course, as TQQQ's back under $22/share.
-hh
Well, let's look at how Lyin' Asshole's strategy played out.
I figured you'd crawl back as soon as you were 'safely' above water.
Post by Tommy
The Fed announced today a 0.25% rate hike and indicated they were close to the end of rate hikes.
"The Fed Raises Rates a Quarter Point and Signals More Ahead
America’s central bank has shifted into a new phase, raising rates
more slowly as inflation shows signs of moderating."
<https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/01/business/federal-reserve-interest-rates.html>
It includes a statement of "...“a couple more” rate increases..." too.
Post by Tommy
This is what I was anticipating, and the market responded accordingly.
TQQQ is now at 24.39, giving me about an 11% gain in less than 90 days - not bad.
So? Does that mean that you sold today?
So, you STATED that I had a 20% LOSS w/o asking me if I had sold!
Incorrect. The comment was noting that you were hiding while you were underwater:

"Tommy's silent, of course, as TQQQ's back under $22/share. "
Post by Tommy
WHY don't you maintain the same standards????
Sorry, but I *exceed* the standards that you use, by actually substantiating statements.
Post by Tommy
Post by -hh
Post by Tommy
More importantly, the trajectory going forward is much more likely to be up than down.
Yes, that's what the Fed said: "...“a couple more” rate increases...".
Or did you mean to suggest something else?
Hey Lyin' Asshole, I'm going to give you the MOST IMPORTANT piece of advice yet: the Fed is near
the end of their rate increases and the market KNOWS that. Prices have ALREADY factored those
increases in and company profits have ABSORBED those increases, so the market is GREEN-LIGHTED
for an upside move. In other words, we have already seen the market BOTTOM. Is that clear enough
for your peanut-sized brain??????
So you've definitively called the bottom. Does this also mean that you're also saying that there will be
no recession in 2023 either?
Post by Tommy
Post by -hh
Post by Tommy
Meanwhile, the Lyin' Asshole has his thumb up his ass, not knowing what to do, but what else is new?
Golly, looks like Mr. Senile forgot that someone mentioned buying TQQQ in December
Hey LA, did you BUY TQQQ at that price? I DOUBT IT!!!!
Already posted that I did, but didn't provide a receipt, so here ya go:

<Loading Image...>

Granted, it is redacted, but it is nevertheless sufficient to show a TQQQ purchase in December, at
a price whose first digit is a "1" instead of a "2". Go ahead and complain that this isn't good enough,
but do so by leading by example, by posting your own purchase order record of CVX to show what
the minimum disclosure resolution is that you want to see.
Post by Tommy
Post by -hh
[quote]
12/27/22 update: TQQQ low & close: $16.72 & $16.84
Looks like I can expect some paperwork in the mail from a certain limit order...
[/quote]
Hmmm...that suggests something north of +40%, doesn't it?
Not for you because you DIDN'T BUY IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Except for how any TQQQ purchase below $20.00 versus your $24.39 price point
would be at least a +22% gain.

Likewise, for even lower prices:

If PP = $19.50 --> +25%
If PP = $19.00 --> +28%
If PP = $18.50 --> +32%
If PP = $18.00 --> +36%
If PP = $17.50 --> +39%
If PP = $17.00 --> +43%
If PP = $16.50 --> +48%
etc

Meantime, today's jobs report was too strong, so Markets are dropping because they know
that that's meat for the Federal Reserve to keep on increasing rates for longer = a Tommy oops!

-hh
Tommy
2023-02-05 05:59:16 UTC
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Post by -hh
Post by Tommy
Post by -hh
Post by Tommy
Post by -hh
Post by -hh
Post by -hh
Post by -hh
Post by -hh
Well, after yesterday's correction, seems about right to pull on Tommy's
chain again on how well his 'TQQQ' is doing.
Meantime...
Probably time to check these again; midday 22 Aug 22
Post by -hh
[YTD's were as of 19 May 2022]
BCE (DIV 5.3%) +2.3% Aug --> -2.81%
BBY (DIV 3.5%) -23% Aug --> -20.43%
CVX (DIV 3.5%) +40% Aug --> +33.69%
ED (DIV 3.5%) +12% Aug --> +18.11%
ENB (DIV 6%) +16% Aug --> +13.26%
JNJ (DIV 2.4%) +3.3% Aug --> -0.32%
LMT (DIV 2.6%) +22% Aug --> +25.64%
NVS (DIV 2.5%) +1.8% Aug --> -2.74%
VTRS (DIV 4.5%) -14% Aug --> -22.55%
--------------------------------------
Total portfolio slice is still net positive 'YTD', by +6.1%, which contrasts ever
so slightly to the likes of Tommy's TQQQ being down by a mere -66%.
YTD is still positive, at +4.65% whereas TQQQ at $32.4 is in the red at -62% ... although
to be fair, that is a four point recovery since May. Of course, this +4.65% is before
dividends (roughly +2.5%), so one could say that it is effectively at +7% YTD.
Been way too long since reporting back on this...
BCE (DIV 5.3%) -14%
BBY (DIV 3.5%) -18%
CVX (DIV 3.5%) +44%
ED (DIV 3.5%) +13%
ENB (DIV 6%) +1%
JNJ (DIV 2.4%) +5%
LMT (DIV 2.6%) +39%
NVS (DIV 2.5%) +4%
VTRS (DIV 4.5%) -18%
Total portfolio slice is still net positive 'YTD', by +5.54% on Equities values...plus, of
course, the dividends spun off...roughly another +3.77%, so approx. +9% paper return.
+7.34% appreciation, plus the dividends, so roughly a 10%-11% YoY return.
Post by -hh
Apologies, forgot to include the comparison back to TQQQ for Tommy.
TQQQ (close yesterday) at $18.27 ... down -17% since Tommy's claimed purchase of it
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.sport.golf/c/ooGucHaSsFI/m/DpkT6VenAwAJ>
Tommy's silent, of course, as TQQQ's back under $22/share.
-hh
Well, let's look at how Lyin' Asshole's strategy played out.
I figured you'd crawl back as soon as you were 'safely' above water.
Post by Tommy
The Fed announced today a 0.25% rate hike and indicated they were close to the end of rate hikes.
"The Fed Raises Rates a Quarter Point and Signals More Ahead
America’s central bank has shifted into a new phase, raising rates
more slowly as inflation shows signs of moderating."
<https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/01/business/federal-reserve-interest-rates.html>
It includes a statement of "...“a couple more” rate increases..." too.
Post by Tommy
This is what I was anticipating, and the market responded accordingly.
TQQQ is now at 24.39, giving me about an 11% gain in less than 90 days - not bad.
So? Does that mean that you sold today?
So, you STATED that I had a 20% LOSS w/o asking me if I had sold!
"Tommy's silent, of course, as TQQQ's back under $22/share. "
Post by Tommy
WHY don't you maintain the same standards????
Sorry, but I *exceed* the standards that you use, by actually substantiating statements.
Post by Tommy
Post by -hh
Post by Tommy
More importantly, the trajectory going forward is much more likely to be up than down.
Yes, that's what the Fed said: "...“a couple more” rate increases...".
Or did you mean to suggest something else?
Hey Lyin' Asshole, I'm going to give you the MOST IMPORTANT piece of advice yet: the Fed is near
the end of their rate increases and the market KNOWS that. Prices have ALREADY factored those
increases in and company profits have ABSORBED those increases, so the market is GREEN-LIGHTED
for an upside move. In other words, we have already seen the market BOTTOM. Is that clear enough
for your peanut-sized brain??????
So you've definitively called the bottom. Does this also mean that you're also saying that there will be
no recession in 2023 either?
Post by Tommy
Post by -hh
Post by Tommy
Meanwhile, the Lyin' Asshole has his thumb up his ass, not knowing what to do, but what else is new?
Golly, looks like Mr. Senile forgot that someone mentioned buying TQQQ in December
Hey LA, did you BUY TQQQ at that price? I DOUBT IT!!!!
<http://huntzinger.com/usenet/2022-TQQQ_redacted.gif>
Granted, it is redacted, but it is nevertheless sufficient to show a TQQQ purchase in December, at
a price whose first digit is a "1" instead of a "2". Go ahead and complain that this isn't good enough,
but do so by leading by example, by posting your own purchase order record of CVX to show what
the minimum disclosure resolution is that you want to see.
Post by Tommy
Post by -hh
[quote]
12/27/22 update: TQQQ low & close: $16.72 & $16.84
Looks like I can expect some paperwork in the mail from a certain limit order...
[/quote]
Hmmm...that suggests something north of +40%, doesn't it?
Not for you because you DIDN'T BUY IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Except for how any TQQQ purchase below $20.00 versus your $24.39 price point
would be at least a +22% gain.
If PP = $19.50 --> +25%
If PP = $19.00 --> +28%
If PP = $18.50 --> +32%
If PP = $18.00 --> +36%
If PP = $17.50 --> +39%
If PP = $17.00 --> +43%
If PP = $16.50 --> +48%
etc
Meantime, today's jobs report was too strong, so Markets are dropping because they know
that that's meat for the Federal Reserve to keep on increasing rates for longer = a Tommy oops!
-hh
Without nitpicking, its good to see that you followed my advice FOR ONCE!
-hh
2023-02-05 08:22:09 UTC
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Post by Tommy
Post by -hh
Post by Tommy
Post by -hh
Post by -hh
Post by -hh
Post by -hh
Post by -hh
Well, after yesterday's correction, seems about right to pull on Tommy's
chain again on how well his 'TQQQ' is doing.
Meantime...
Probably time to check these again; midday 22 Aug 22
Post by -hh
[YTD's were as of 19 May 2022]
BCE (DIV 5.3%) +2.3% Aug --> -2.81%
BBY (DIV 3.5%) -23% Aug --> -20.43%
CVX (DIV 3.5%) +40% Aug --> +33.69%
ED (DIV 3.5%) +12% Aug --> +18.11%
ENB (DIV 6%) +16% Aug --> +13.26%
JNJ (DIV 2.4%) +3.3% Aug --> -0.32%
LMT (DIV 2.6%) +22% Aug --> +25.64%
NVS (DIV 2.5%) +1.8% Aug --> -2.74%
VTRS (DIV 4.5%) -14% Aug --> -22.55%
--------------------------------------
Total portfolio slice is still net positive 'YTD', by +6.1%, which contrasts ever
so slightly to the likes of Tommy's TQQQ being down by a mere -66%.
YTD is still positive, at +4.65% whereas TQQQ at $32.4 is in the red at -62% ... although
to be fair, that is a four point recovery since May. Of course, this +4.65% is before
dividends (roughly +2.5%), so one could say that it is effectively at +7% YTD.
Been way too long since reporting back on this...
BCE (DIV 5.3%) -14%
BBY (DIV 3.5%) -18%
CVX (DIV 3.5%) +44%
ED (DIV 3.5%) +13%
ENB (DIV 6%) +1%
JNJ (DIV 2.4%) +5%
LMT (DIV 2.6%) +39%
NVS (DIV 2.5%) +4%
VTRS (DIV 4.5%) -18%
Total portfolio slice is still net positive 'YTD', by +5.54% on Equities values...plus, of
course, the dividends spun off...roughly another +3.77%, so approx. +9% paper return.
+7.34% appreciation, plus the dividends, so roughly a 10%-11% YoY return.
Post by -hh
Apologies, forgot to include the comparison back to TQQQ for Tommy.
TQQQ (close yesterday) at $18.27 ... down -17% since Tommy's claimed purchase of it
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.sport.golf/c/ooGucHaSsFI/m/DpkT6VenAwAJ>
Tommy's silent, of course, as TQQQ's back under $22/share.
-hh
Well, let's look at how Lyin' Asshole's strategy played out.
I figured you'd crawl back as soon as you were 'safely' above water.
Post by Tommy
The Fed announced today a 0.25% rate hike and indicated they were close to the end of rate hikes.
"The Fed Raises Rates a Quarter Point and Signals More Ahead
America’s central bank has shifted into a new phase, raising rates
more slowly as inflation shows signs of moderating."
<https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/01/business/federal-reserve-interest-rates.html>
It includes a statement of "...“a couple more” rate increases..." too.
Post by Tommy
This is what I was anticipating, and the market responded accordingly.
TQQQ is now at 24.39, giving me about an 11% gain in less than 90 days - not bad.
So? Does that mean that you sold today?
So, you STATED that I had a 20% LOSS w/o asking me if I had sold!
"Tommy's silent, of course, as TQQQ's back under $22/share. "
Plus Tommy's silent on if he's bailed out of TQQQ with just his 11% gain (before STCG taxes).
Post by -hh
Post by Tommy
WHY don't you maintain the same standards????
Sorry, but I *exceed* the standards that you use, by actually substantiating statements.
Post by Tommy
Post by -hh
Post by Tommy
More importantly, the trajectory going forward is much more likely to be up than down.
Yes, that's what the Fed said: "...“a couple more” rate increases...".
Or did you mean to suggest something else?
Hey Lyin' Asshole, I'm going to give you the MOST IMPORTANT piece of advice yet: the Fed is near
the end of their rate increases and the market KNOWS that. Prices have ALREADY factored those
increases in and company profits have ABSORBED those increases, so the market is GREEN-LIGHTED
for an upside move. In other words, we have already seen the market BOTTOM. Is that clear enough
for your peanut-sized brain??????
So you've definitively called the bottom. Does this also mean that you're also saying that there will be
no recession in 2023 either?
Hmmm...
Post by -hh
Post by Tommy
Post by -hh
Post by Tommy
Meanwhile, the Lyin' Asshole has his thumb up his ass, not knowing what to do, but what else is new?
Golly, looks like Mr. Senile forgot that someone mentioned buying TQQQ in December
Hey LA, did you BUY TQQQ at that price? I DOUBT IT!!!!
<http://huntzinger.com/usenet/2022-TQQQ_redacted.gif>
Granted, it is redacted, but it is nevertheless sufficient to show a TQQQ purchase in December, at
a price whose first digit is a "1" instead of a "2". Go ahead and complain that this isn't good enough,
but do so by leading by example, by posting your own purchase order record of CVX to show what
the minimum disclosure resolution is that you want to see.
Still waiting.
Post by -hh
Post by Tommy
Post by -hh
[quote]
12/27/22 update: TQQQ low & close: $16.72 & $16.84
Looks like I can expect some paperwork in the mail from a certain limit order...
[/quote]
Hmmm...that suggests something north of +40%, doesn't it?
Not for you because you DIDN'T BUY IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Except for how any TQQQ purchase below $20.00 versus your $24.39 price point
would be at least a +22% gain.
If PP = $19.50 --> +25%
If PP = $19.00 --> +28%
If PP = $18.50 --> +32%
If PP = $18.00 --> +36%
If PP = $17.50 --> +39%
If PP = $17.00 --> +43%
If PP = $16.50 --> +48%
etc
Meantime, today's jobs report was too strong, so Markets are dropping because they know
that that's meat for the Federal Reserve to keep on increasing rates for longer = a Tommy oops!
Without nitpicking, ...
This would be the part where Tommy tries to ignore that his call that the Feds have ended making
rate hikes is looking quite incorrect at the end of last week. Plus Tommy's silent on if he's bailed
out of TQQQ with just a 11% gain (before STCG taxes).
... its good to see that you followed my advice FOR ONCE!
Nah, the TQQQ holdings are insignificant: they're worth the entertainment value of seeing you
squirm, because no matter what brag you try to make, you know someone else is doing better than you.


-hh
Tommy
2023-02-08 05:32:36 UTC
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Post by -hh
Post by Tommy
Post by -hh
Post by Tommy
Post by -hh
Post by -hh
Post by -hh
Post by -hh
Post by -hh
Well, after yesterday's correction, seems about right to pull on Tommy's
chain again on how well his 'TQQQ' is doing.
Meantime...
Probably time to check these again; midday 22 Aug 22
Post by -hh
[YTD's were as of 19 May 2022]
BCE (DIV 5.3%) +2.3% Aug --> -2.81%
BBY (DIV 3.5%) -23% Aug --> -20.43%
CVX (DIV 3.5%) +40% Aug --> +33.69%
ED (DIV 3.5%) +12% Aug --> +18.11%
ENB (DIV 6%) +16% Aug --> +13.26%
JNJ (DIV 2.4%) +3.3% Aug --> -0.32%
LMT (DIV 2.6%) +22% Aug --> +25.64%
NVS (DIV 2.5%) +1.8% Aug --> -2.74%
VTRS (DIV 4.5%) -14% Aug --> -22.55%
--------------------------------------
Total portfolio slice is still net positive 'YTD', by +6.1%, which contrasts ever
so slightly to the likes of Tommy's TQQQ being down by a mere -66%.
YTD is still positive, at +4.65% whereas TQQQ at $32.4 is in the red at -62% ... although
to be fair, that is a four point recovery since May. Of course, this +4.65% is before
dividends (roughly +2.5%), so one could say that it is effectively at +7% YTD.
Been way too long since reporting back on this...
BCE (DIV 5.3%) -14%
BBY (DIV 3.5%) -18%
CVX (DIV 3.5%) +44%
ED (DIV 3.5%) +13%
ENB (DIV 6%) +1%
JNJ (DIV 2.4%) +5%
LMT (DIV 2.6%) +39%
NVS (DIV 2.5%) +4%
VTRS (DIV 4.5%) -18%
Total portfolio slice is still net positive 'YTD', by +5.54% on Equities values...plus, of
course, the dividends spun off...roughly another +3.77%, so approx. +9% paper return.
+7.34% appreciation, plus the dividends, so roughly a 10%-11% YoY return.
Post by -hh
Apologies, forgot to include the comparison back to TQQQ for Tommy.
TQQQ (close yesterday) at $18.27 ... down -17% since Tommy's claimed purchase of it
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.sport.golf/c/ooGucHaSsFI/m/DpkT6VenAwAJ>
Tommy's silent, of course, as TQQQ's back under $22/share.
-hh
Well, let's look at how Lyin' Asshole's strategy played out.
I figured you'd crawl back as soon as you were 'safely' above water.
Post by Tommy
The Fed announced today a 0.25% rate hike and indicated they were close to the end of rate hikes.
"The Fed Raises Rates a Quarter Point and Signals More Ahead
America’s central bank has shifted into a new phase, raising rates
more slowly as inflation shows signs of moderating."
<https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/01/business/federal-reserve-interest-rates.html>
It includes a statement of "...“a couple more” rate increases..." too.
Post by Tommy
This is what I was anticipating, and the market responded accordingly.
TQQQ is now at 24.39, giving me about an 11% gain in less than 90 days - not bad.
So? Does that mean that you sold today?
So, you STATED that I had a 20% LOSS w/o asking me if I had sold!
"Tommy's silent, of course, as TQQQ's back under $22/share. "
Plus Tommy's silent on if he's bailed out of TQQQ with just his 11% gain (before STCG taxes).
Post by -hh
Post by Tommy
WHY don't you maintain the same standards????
Sorry, but I *exceed* the standards that you use, by actually substantiating statements.
Post by Tommy
Post by -hh
Post by Tommy
More importantly, the trajectory going forward is much more likely to be up than down.
Yes, that's what the Fed said: "...“a couple more” rate increases...".
Or did you mean to suggest something else?
Hey Lyin' Asshole, I'm going to give you the MOST IMPORTANT piece of advice yet: the Fed is near
the end of their rate increases and the market KNOWS that. Prices have ALREADY factored those
increases in and company profits have ABSORBED those increases, so the market is GREEN-LIGHTED
for an upside move. In other words, we have already seen the market BOTTOM. Is that clear enough
for your peanut-sized brain??????
So you've definitively called the bottom. Does this also mean that you're also saying that there will be
no recession in 2023 either?
Hmmm...
Post by -hh
Post by Tommy
Post by -hh
Post by Tommy
Meanwhile, the Lyin' Asshole has his thumb up his ass, not knowing what to do, but what else is new?
Golly, looks like Mr. Senile forgot that someone mentioned buying TQQQ in December
Hey LA, did you BUY TQQQ at that price? I DOUBT IT!!!!
<http://huntzinger.com/usenet/2022-TQQQ_redacted.gif>
Granted, it is redacted, but it is nevertheless sufficient to show a TQQQ purchase in December, at
a price whose first digit is a "1" instead of a "2". Go ahead and complain that this isn't good enough,
but do so by leading by example, by posting your own purchase order record of CVX to show what
the minimum disclosure resolution is that you want to see.
Still waiting.
Post by -hh
Post by Tommy
Post by -hh
[quote]
12/27/22 update: TQQQ low & close: $16.72 & $16.84
Looks like I can expect some paperwork in the mail from a certain limit order...
[/quote]
Hmmm...that suggests something north of +40%, doesn't it?
Not for you because you DIDN'T BUY IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Except for how any TQQQ purchase below $20.00 versus your $24.39 price point
would be at least a +22% gain.
If PP = $19.50 --> +25%
If PP = $19.00 --> +28%
If PP = $18.50 --> +32%
If PP = $18.00 --> +36%
If PP = $17.50 --> +39%
If PP = $17.00 --> +43%
If PP = $16.50 --> +48%
etc
Meantime, today's jobs report was too strong, so Markets are dropping because they know
that that's meat for the Federal Reserve to keep on increasing rates for longer = a Tommy oops!
Without nitpicking, ...
This would be the part where Tommy tries to ignore that his call that the Feds have ended making
rate hikes is looking quite incorrect at the end of last week. Plus Tommy's silent on if he's bailed
out of TQQQ with just a 11% gain (before STCG taxes).
... its good to see that you followed my advice FOR ONCE!
Nah, the TQQQ holdings are insignificant: they're worth the entertainment value of seeing you
squirm, because no matter what brag you try to make, you know someone else is doing better than you.
-hh
The Lyin' Asshole's string of lies is unbroken: WHEN did I say that the Fed had ENDED their rate hikes?
-hh
2023-02-08 11:20:37 UTC
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Post by -hh
Post by -hh
Post by Tommy
Post by -hh
Post by Tommy
Post by -hh
Post by -hh
Post by -hh
Post by -hh
Post by -hh
Well, after yesterday's correction, seems about right to pull on Tommy's
chain again on how well his 'TQQQ' is doing.
Meantime...
Probably time to check these again; midday 22 Aug 22
Post by -hh
[YTD's were as of 19 May 2022]
BCE (DIV 5.3%) +2.3% Aug --> -2.81%
BBY (DIV 3.5%) -23% Aug --> -20.43%
CVX (DIV 3.5%) +40% Aug --> +33.69%
ED (DIV 3.5%) +12% Aug --> +18.11%
ENB (DIV 6%) +16% Aug --> +13.26%
JNJ (DIV 2.4%) +3.3% Aug --> -0.32%
LMT (DIV 2.6%) +22% Aug --> +25.64%
NVS (DIV 2.5%) +1.8% Aug --> -2.74%
VTRS (DIV 4.5%) -14% Aug --> -22.55%
--------------------------------------
Total portfolio slice is still net positive 'YTD', by +6.1%, which contrasts ever
so slightly to the likes of Tommy's TQQQ being down by a mere -66%.
YTD is still positive, at +4.65% whereas TQQQ at $32.4 is in the red at -62% ... although
to be fair, that is a four point recovery since May. Of course, this +4.65% is before
dividends (roughly +2.5%), so one could say that it is effectively at +7% YTD.
Been way too long since reporting back on this...
BCE (DIV 5.3%) -14%
BBY (DIV 3.5%) -18%
CVX (DIV 3.5%) +44%
ED (DIV 3.5%) +13%
ENB (DIV 6%) +1%
JNJ (DIV 2.4%) +5%
LMT (DIV 2.6%) +39%
NVS (DIV 2.5%) +4%
VTRS (DIV 4.5%) -18%
Total portfolio slice is still net positive 'YTD', by +5.54% on Equities values...plus, of
course, the dividends spun off...roughly another +3.77%, so approx. +9% paper return.
+7.34% appreciation, plus the dividends, so roughly a 10%-11% YoY return.
Post by -hh
Apologies, forgot to include the comparison back to TQQQ for Tommy.
TQQQ (close yesterday) at $18.27 ... down -17% since Tommy's claimed purchase of it
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.sport.golf/c/ooGucHaSsFI/m/DpkT6VenAwAJ>
Tommy's silent, of course, as TQQQ's back under $22/share.
-hh
Well, let's look at how Lyin' Asshole's strategy played out.
I figured you'd crawl back as soon as you were 'safely' above water.
Post by Tommy
The Fed announced today a 0.25% rate hike and indicated they were close to the end of rate hikes.
"The Fed Raises Rates a Quarter Point and Signals More Ahead
America’s central bank has shifted into a new phase, raising rates
more slowly as inflation shows signs of moderating."
<https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/01/business/federal-reserve-interest-rates.html>
It includes a statement of "...“a couple more” rate increases..." too.
Post by Tommy
This is what I was anticipating, and the market responded accordingly.
TQQQ is now at 24.39, giving me about an 11% gain in less than 90 days - not bad.
So? Does that mean that you sold today?
So, you STATED that I had a 20% LOSS w/o asking me if I had sold!
"Tommy's silent, of course, as TQQQ's back under $22/share. "
Plus Tommy's silent on if he's bailed out of TQQQ with just his 11% gain (before STCG taxes).
Post by -hh
Post by Tommy
WHY don't you maintain the same standards????
Sorry, but I *exceed* the standards that you use, by actually substantiating statements.
Post by Tommy
Post by -hh
Post by Tommy
More importantly, the trajectory going forward is much more likely to be up than down.
Yes, that's what the Fed said: "...“a couple more” rate increases...".
Or did you mean to suggest something else?
Hey Lyin' Asshole, I'm going to give you the MOST IMPORTANT piece of advice yet: the Fed is near
the end of their rate increases and the market KNOWS that. Prices have ALREADY factored those
increases in and company profits have ABSORBED those increases, so the market is GREEN-LIGHTED
for an upside move. In other words, we have already seen the market BOTTOM. Is that clear enough
for your peanut-sized brain??????
So you've definitively called the bottom. Does this also mean that you're also saying that there will be
no recession in 2023 either?
Hmmm...
Post by -hh
Post by Tommy
Post by -hh
Post by Tommy
Meanwhile, the Lyin' Asshole has his thumb up his ass, not knowing what to do, but what else is new?
Golly, looks like Mr. Senile forgot that someone mentioned buying TQQQ in December
Hey LA, did you BUY TQQQ at that price? I DOUBT IT!!!!
<http://huntzinger.com/usenet/2022-TQQQ_redacted.gif>
Granted, it is redacted, but it is nevertheless sufficient to show a TQQQ purchase in December, at
a price whose first digit is a "1" instead of a "2". Go ahead and complain that this isn't good enough,
but do so by leading by example, by posting your own purchase order record of CVX to show what
the minimum disclosure resolution is that you want to see.
Still waiting.
Post by -hh
Post by Tommy
Post by -hh
[quote]
12/27/22 update: TQQQ low & close: $16.72 & $16.84
Looks like I can expect some paperwork in the mail from a certain limit order...
[/quote]
Hmmm...that suggests something north of +40%, doesn't it?
Not for you because you DIDN'T BUY IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Except for how any TQQQ purchase below $20.00 versus your $24.39 price point
would be at least a +22% gain.
If PP = $19.50 --> +25%
If PP = $19.00 --> +28%
If PP = $18.50 --> +32%
If PP = $18.00 --> +36%
If PP = $17.50 --> +39%
If PP = $17.00 --> +43%
If PP = $16.50 --> +48%
etc
Meantime, today's jobs report was too strong, so Markets are dropping because they know
that that's meat for the Federal Reserve to keep on increasing rates for longer = a Tommy oops!
Without nitpicking, ...
This would be the part where Tommy tries to ignore that his call that the Feds have ended making
rate hikes is looking quite incorrect at the end of last week. Plus Tommy's silent on if he's bailed
out of TQQQ with just a 11% gain (before STCG taxes).
... its good to see that you followed my advice FOR ONCE!
Nah, the TQQQ holdings are insignificant: they're worth the entertainment value of seeing you
squirm, because no matter what brag you try to make, you know someone else is doing better than you.
The Lyin' Asshole's string of lies is unbroken: WHEN did I say that the Fed had ENDED their rate hikes?
Nah, I'm just already accepting a hike at the Fed's March meeting, based on what you said, which was:
"....indicated they were close to the end of rate hikes."

That's in conjunction and context with how you've not denied having also called the bottom already, as well as
the elaborations on how a bottom occurs only a few months before the last rate hikes. Together, it points to
the Fed's March meeting as being the last rate hike as being what you meant - - at the time you said it.

Naturally, now that the Fed has clearly said otherwise, you're trying to change what you meant, particularly
particularly since the June and even May Fed meeting dates are already too far into 2023 for a reasonable
expectation of a Fed rate cut occurring 2023, because any sort of Fed rates hold duration would be negated.

Meantime, you're silent on if you already bailed out of TQQQ at its 11% gain point (before STCG taxes).

Ditto on you providing clarity on if you're also saying that there will be no recession in 2023 either.

As well as your mystery purchase record on CVX....oh, gosh on INTC too (purchased claimed prior to 11 Jan 22)


-hh
Tommy
2023-02-09 01:48:42 UTC
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Post by Tommy
Post by -hh
Post by -hh
Post by Tommy
Post by -hh
Post by Tommy
Post by -hh
Post by -hh
Post by -hh
Post by -hh
Post by -hh
Well, after yesterday's correction, seems about right to pull on Tommy's
chain again on how well his 'TQQQ' is doing.
Meantime...
Probably time to check these again; midday 22 Aug 22
Post by -hh
[YTD's were as of 19 May 2022]
BCE (DIV 5.3%) +2.3% Aug --> -2.81%
BBY (DIV 3.5%) -23% Aug --> -20.43%
CVX (DIV 3.5%) +40% Aug --> +33.69%
ED (DIV 3.5%) +12% Aug --> +18.11%
ENB (DIV 6%) +16% Aug --> +13.26%
JNJ (DIV 2.4%) +3.3% Aug --> -0.32%
LMT (DIV 2.6%) +22% Aug --> +25.64%
NVS (DIV 2.5%) +1.8% Aug --> -2.74%
VTRS (DIV 4.5%) -14% Aug --> -22.55%
--------------------------------------
Total portfolio slice is still net positive 'YTD', by +6.1%, which contrasts ever
so slightly to the likes of Tommy's TQQQ being down by a mere -66%.
YTD is still positive, at +4.65% whereas TQQQ at $32.4 is in the red at -62% ... although
to be fair, that is a four point recovery since May. Of course, this +4.65% is before
dividends (roughly +2.5%), so one could say that it is effectively at +7% YTD.
Been way too long since reporting back on this...
BCE (DIV 5.3%) -14%
BBY (DIV 3.5%) -18%
CVX (DIV 3.5%) +44%
ED (DIV 3.5%) +13%
ENB (DIV 6%) +1%
JNJ (DIV 2.4%) +5%
LMT (DIV 2.6%) +39%
NVS (DIV 2.5%) +4%
VTRS (DIV 4.5%) -18%
Total portfolio slice is still net positive 'YTD', by +5.54% on Equities values...plus, of
course, the dividends spun off...roughly another +3.77%, so approx. +9% paper return.
+7.34% appreciation, plus the dividends, so roughly a 10%-11% YoY return.
Post by -hh
Apologies, forgot to include the comparison back to TQQQ for Tommy.
TQQQ (close yesterday) at $18.27 ... down -17% since Tommy's claimed purchase of it
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.sport.golf/c/ooGucHaSsFI/m/DpkT6VenAwAJ>
Tommy's silent, of course, as TQQQ's back under $22/share.
-hh
Well, let's look at how Lyin' Asshole's strategy played out.
I figured you'd crawl back as soon as you were 'safely' above water.
Post by Tommy
The Fed announced today a 0.25% rate hike and indicated they were close to the end of rate hikes.
"The Fed Raises Rates a Quarter Point and Signals More Ahead
America’s central bank has shifted into a new phase, raising rates
more slowly as inflation shows signs of moderating."
<https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/01/business/federal-reserve-interest-rates.html>
It includes a statement of "...“a couple more” rate increases..." too.
Post by Tommy
This is what I was anticipating, and the market responded accordingly.
TQQQ is now at 24.39, giving me about an 11% gain in less than 90 days - not bad.
So? Does that mean that you sold today?
So, you STATED that I had a 20% LOSS w/o asking me if I had sold!
"Tommy's silent, of course, as TQQQ's back under $22/share. "
Plus Tommy's silent on if he's bailed out of TQQQ with just his 11% gain (before STCG taxes).
Post by -hh
Post by Tommy
WHY don't you maintain the same standards????
Sorry, but I *exceed* the standards that you use, by actually substantiating statements.
Post by Tommy
Post by -hh
Post by Tommy
More importantly, the trajectory going forward is much more likely to be up than down.
Yes, that's what the Fed said: "...“a couple more” rate increases...".
Or did you mean to suggest something else?
Hey Lyin' Asshole, I'm going to give you the MOST IMPORTANT piece of advice yet: the Fed is near
the end of their rate increases and the market KNOWS that. Prices have ALREADY factored those
increases in and company profits have ABSORBED those increases, so the market is GREEN-LIGHTED
for an upside move. In other words, we have already seen the market BOTTOM. Is that clear enough
for your peanut-sized brain??????
So you've definitively called the bottom. Does this also mean that you're also saying that there will be
no recession in 2023 either?
Hmmm...
Post by -hh
Post by Tommy
Post by -hh
Post by Tommy
Meanwhile, the Lyin' Asshole has his thumb up his ass, not knowing what to do, but what else is new?
Golly, looks like Mr. Senile forgot that someone mentioned buying TQQQ in December
Hey LA, did you BUY TQQQ at that price? I DOUBT IT!!!!
<http://huntzinger.com/usenet/2022-TQQQ_redacted.gif>
Granted, it is redacted, but it is nevertheless sufficient to show a TQQQ purchase in December, at
a price whose first digit is a "1" instead of a "2". Go ahead and complain that this isn't good enough,
but do so by leading by example, by posting your own purchase order record of CVX to show what
the minimum disclosure resolution is that you want to see.
Still waiting.
Post by -hh
Post by Tommy
Post by -hh
[quote]
12/27/22 update: TQQQ low & close: $16.72 & $16.84
Looks like I can expect some paperwork in the mail from a certain limit order...
[/quote]
Hmmm...that suggests something north of +40%, doesn't it?
Not for you because you DIDN'T BUY IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Except for how any TQQQ purchase below $20.00 versus your $24.39 price point
would be at least a +22% gain.
If PP = $19.50 --> +25%
If PP = $19.00 --> +28%
If PP = $18.50 --> +32%
If PP = $18.00 --> +36%
If PP = $17.50 --> +39%
If PP = $17.00 --> +43%
If PP = $16.50 --> +48%
etc
Meantime, today's jobs report was too strong, so Markets are dropping because they know
that that's meat for the Federal Reserve to keep on increasing rates for longer = a Tommy oops!
Without nitpicking, ...
This would be the part where Tommy tries to ignore that his call that the Feds have ended making
rate hikes is looking quite incorrect at the end of last week. Plus Tommy's silent on if he's bailed
out of TQQQ with just a 11% gain (before STCG taxes).
... its good to see that you followed my advice FOR ONCE!
Nah, the TQQQ holdings are insignificant: they're worth the entertainment value of seeing you
squirm, because no matter what brag you try to make, you know someone else is doing better than you.
The Lyin' Asshole's string of lies is unbroken: WHEN did I say that the Fed had ENDED their rate hikes?
"....indicated they were close to the end of rate hikes."
That's in conjunction and context with how you've not denied having also called the bottom already, as well as
the elaborations on how a bottom occurs only a few months before the last rate hikes. Together, it points to
the Fed's March meeting as being the last rate hike as being what you meant - - at the time you said it.
Naturally, now that the Fed has clearly said otherwise, you're trying to change what you meant, particularly
particularly since the June and even May Fed meeting dates are already too far into 2023 for a reasonable
expectation of a Fed rate cut occurring 2023, because any sort of Fed rates hold duration would be negated.
Meantime, you're silent on if you already bailed out of TQQQ at its 11% gain point (before STCG taxes).
Ditto on you providing clarity on if you're also saying that there will be no recession in 2023 either.
As well as your mystery purchase record on CVX....oh, gosh on INTC too (purchased claimed prior to 11 Jan 22)
-hh
Hey Asshole, at least you ADMIT that I didn't say the Fed was DONE with rate hikes. There are, at least, two more rate hikes in the works, PROBABLY (note I am not declaring this) 0.25% each.

We have ALREADY had our recession which you profoundly waffled about.

I have ALREADY put you on notice that I AM NOT informing you of all my trades, just as YOU are not doing the same (and, now, declaring that you bought TQQQ with a very suspicious trade confirmation).

Let's face it: you're jealous of my success and want to belittle it at every opportunity. So be it - you are welcome to wallow in your proven mediocrity.
-hh
2023-02-09 02:31:28 UTC
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Well, after yesterday's correction, seems about right to pull on Tommy's
chain again on how well his 'TQQQ' is doing.
Meantime...
Probably time to check these again; midday 22 Aug 22
Post by -hh
[YTD's were as of 19 May 2022]
BCE (DIV 5.3%) +2.3% Aug --> -2.81%
BBY (DIV 3.5%) -23% Aug --> -20.43%
CVX (DIV 3.5%) +40% Aug --> +33.69%
ED (DIV 3.5%) +12% Aug --> +18.11%
ENB (DIV 6%) +16% Aug --> +13.26%
JNJ (DIV 2.4%) +3.3% Aug --> -0.32%
LMT (DIV 2.6%) +22% Aug --> +25.64%
NVS (DIV 2.5%) +1.8% Aug --> -2.74%
VTRS (DIV 4.5%) -14% Aug --> -22.55%
--------------------------------------
Total portfolio slice is still net positive 'YTD', by +6.1%, which contrasts ever
so slightly to the likes of Tommy's TQQQ being down by a mere -66%.
YTD is still positive, at +4.65% whereas TQQQ at $32.4 is in the red at -62% ... although
to be fair, that is a four point recovery since May. Of course, this +4.65% is before
dividends (roughly +2.5%), so one could say that it is effectively at +7% YTD.
Been way too long since reporting back on this...
BCE (DIV 5.3%) -14%
BBY (DIV 3.5%) -18%
CVX (DIV 3.5%) +44%
ED (DIV 3.5%) +13%
ENB (DIV 6%) +1%
JNJ (DIV 2.4%) +5%
LMT (DIV 2.6%) +39%
NVS (DIV 2.5%) +4%
VTRS (DIV 4.5%) -18%
Total portfolio slice is still net positive 'YTD', by +5.54% on Equities values...plus, of
course, the dividends spun off...roughly another +3.77%, so approx. +9% paper return.
+7.34% appreciation, plus the dividends, so roughly a 10%-11% YoY return.
Post by -hh
Apologies, forgot to include the comparison back to TQQQ for Tommy.
TQQQ (close yesterday) at $18.27 ... down -17% since Tommy's claimed purchase of it
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.sport.golf/c/ooGucHaSsFI/m/DpkT6VenAwAJ>
Tommy's silent, of course, as TQQQ's back under $22/share.
-hh
Well, let's look at how Lyin' Asshole's strategy played out.
I figured you'd crawl back as soon as you were 'safely' above water.
Post by Tommy
The Fed announced today a 0.25% rate hike and indicated they were close to the end of rate hikes.
"The Fed Raises Rates a Quarter Point and Signals More Ahead
America’s central bank has shifted into a new phase, raising rates
more slowly as inflation shows signs of moderating."
<https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/01/business/federal-reserve-interest-rates.html>
It includes a statement of "...“a couple more” rate increases..." too.
Post by Tommy
This is what I was anticipating, and the market responded accordingly.
TQQQ is now at 24.39, giving me about an 11% gain in less than 90 days - not bad.
So? Does that mean that you sold today?
So, you STATED that I had a 20% LOSS w/o asking me if I had sold!
"Tommy's silent, of course, as TQQQ's back under $22/share. "
Plus Tommy's silent on if he's bailed out of TQQQ with just his 11% gain (before STCG taxes).
Post by -hh
Post by Tommy
WHY don't you maintain the same standards????
Sorry, but I *exceed* the standards that you use, by actually substantiating statements.
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Post by -hh
Post by Tommy
More importantly, the trajectory going forward is much more likely to be up than down.
Yes, that's what the Fed said: "...“a couple more” rate increases...".
Or did you mean to suggest something else?
Hey Lyin' Asshole, I'm going to give you the MOST IMPORTANT piece of advice yet: the Fed is near
the end of their rate increases and the market KNOWS that. Prices have ALREADY factored those
increases in and company profits have ABSORBED those increases, so the market is GREEN-LIGHTED
for an upside move. In other words, we have already seen the market BOTTOM. Is that clear enough
for your peanut-sized brain??????
So you've definitively called the bottom. Does this also mean that you're also saying that there will be
no recession in 2023 either?
Hmmm...
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Meanwhile, the Lyin' Asshole has his thumb up his ass, not knowing what to do, but what else is new?
Golly, looks like Mr. Senile forgot that someone mentioned buying TQQQ in December
Hey LA, did you BUY TQQQ at that price? I DOUBT IT!!!!
<http://huntzinger.com/usenet/2022-TQQQ_redacted.gif>
Granted, it is redacted, but it is nevertheless sufficient to show a TQQQ purchase in December, at
a price whose first digit is a "1" instead of a "2". Go ahead and complain that this isn't good enough,
but do so by leading by example, by posting your own purchase order record of CVX to show what
the minimum disclosure resolution is that you want to see.
Still waiting.
Post by -hh
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Post by -hh
[quote]
12/27/22 update: TQQQ low & close: $16.72 & $16.84
Looks like I can expect some paperwork in the mail from a certain limit order...
[/quote]
Hmmm...that suggests something north of +40%, doesn't it?
Not for you because you DIDN'T BUY IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Except for how any TQQQ purchase below $20.00 versus your $24.39 price point
would be at least a +22% gain.
If PP = $19.50 --> +25%
If PP = $19.00 --> +28%
If PP = $18.50 --> +32%
If PP = $18.00 --> +36%
If PP = $17.50 --> +39%
If PP = $17.00 --> +43%
If PP = $16.50 --> +48%
etc
Meantime, today's jobs report was too strong, so Markets are dropping because they know
that that's meat for the Federal Reserve to keep on increasing rates for longer = a Tommy oops!
Without nitpicking, ...
This would be the part where Tommy tries to ignore that his call that the Feds have ended making
rate hikes is looking quite incorrect at the end of last week. Plus Tommy's silent on if he's bailed
out of TQQQ with just a 11% gain (before STCG taxes).
... its good to see that you followed my advice FOR ONCE!
Nah, the TQQQ holdings are insignificant: they're worth the entertainment value of seeing you
squirm, because no matter what brag you try to make, you know someone else is doing better than you.
The Lyin' Asshole's string of lies is unbroken: WHEN did I say that the Fed had ENDED their rate hikes?
"....indicated they were close to the end of rate hikes."
That's in conjunction and context with how you've not denied having also called the bottom already, as well as
the elaborations on how a bottom occurs only a few months before the last rate hikes. Together, it points to
the Fed's March meeting as being the last rate hike as being what you meant - - at the time you said it.
Naturally, now that the Fed has clearly said otherwise, you're trying to change what you meant, particularly
particularly since the June and even May Fed meeting dates are already too far into 2023 for a reasonable
expectation of a Fed rate cut occurring 2023, because any sort of Fed rates hold duration would be negated.
Meantime, you're silent on if you already bailed out of TQQQ at its 11% gain point (before STCG taxes).
Ditto on you providing clarity on if you're also saying that there will be no recession in 2023 either.
As well as your mystery purchase record on CVX....oh, gosh on INTC too (purchased claimed prior to 11 Jan 22)
Hey Asshole, at least you ADMIT that I didn't say the Fed was DONE with rate hikes.
There are, at least, two more rate hikes in the works, PROBABLY (note I am not declaring this) 0.25% each.
Oh, so it’s “at least two”? That’s what’s now supposed to be “close”? This pushes out the first
meeting with no expected rate hike to mid-June, so where does that now place your bottom,
for which you’ve previously said “I am saying that the market is going thru a bottoming process
this quarter.”, which ends in just 51 days? Trying to copy my 1H comment?
Post by Tommy
We have ALREADY had our recession which you profoundly waffled about.
No, NBER is the authority on that, and they’ve not made that call. Sorry.
Post by Tommy
I have ALREADY put you on notice that I AM NOT informing you of all my trades, …
Non sequitur, as you’ve been on notice yourself that you can’t make any claims on any
trades that you’ve not posted prior adequate notice. Thus, you’ll no longer be able to
cherry-pick from your entire portfolio to find a winner to claim…unless you choose to
disclose your entire portfolio, of course.
Post by Tommy
… just as YOU are not doing the same (and, now, declaring that you bought TQQQ
with a very suspicious trade confirmation).
Nah, you’ve already been told to provide an example of your own trades with the level
of detail you’re trying to complain about not getting from others…and have not done so.
Post by Tommy
Let's face it: you're jealous of my success and want to belittle it at every opportunity.
So be it - you are welcome to wallow in your proven mediocrity.
Sorry, but you do that all on your own and to yourself. No one here has any reason
to be in the least jealous of your little goldfish bowl’s echo chamber.

-hh
Tommy
2023-02-09 06:27:49 UTC
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Well, after yesterday's correction, seems about right to pull on Tommy's
chain again on how well his 'TQQQ' is doing.
Meantime...
Probably time to check these again; midday 22 Aug 22
Post by -hh
[YTD's were as of 19 May 2022]
BCE (DIV 5.3%) +2.3% Aug --> -2.81%
BBY (DIV 3.5%) -23% Aug --> -20.43%
CVX (DIV 3.5%) +40% Aug --> +33.69%
ED (DIV 3.5%) +12% Aug --> +18.11%
ENB (DIV 6%) +16% Aug --> +13.26%
JNJ (DIV 2.4%) +3.3% Aug --> -0.32%
LMT (DIV 2.6%) +22% Aug --> +25.64%
NVS (DIV 2.5%) +1.8% Aug --> -2.74%
VTRS (DIV 4.5%) -14% Aug --> -22.55%
--------------------------------------
Total portfolio slice is still net positive 'YTD', by +6.1%, which contrasts ever
so slightly to the likes of Tommy's TQQQ being down by a mere -66%.
YTD is still positive, at +4.65% whereas TQQQ at $32.4 is in the red at -62% ... although
to be fair, that is a four point recovery since May. Of course, this +4.65% is before
dividends (roughly +2.5%), so one could say that it is effectively at +7% YTD.
Been way too long since reporting back on this...
BCE (DIV 5.3%) -14%
BBY (DIV 3.5%) -18%
CVX (DIV 3.5%) +44%
ED (DIV 3.5%) +13%
ENB (DIV 6%) +1%
JNJ (DIV 2.4%) +5%
LMT (DIV 2.6%) +39%
NVS (DIV 2.5%) +4%
VTRS (DIV 4.5%) -18%
Total portfolio slice is still net positive 'YTD', by +5.54% on Equities values...plus, of
course, the dividends spun off...roughly another +3.77%, so approx. +9% paper return.
+7.34% appreciation, plus the dividends, so roughly a 10%-11% YoY return.
Post by -hh
Apologies, forgot to include the comparison back to TQQQ for Tommy.
TQQQ (close yesterday) at $18.27 ... down -17% since Tommy's claimed purchase of it
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.sport.golf/c/ooGucHaSsFI/m/DpkT6VenAwAJ>
Tommy's silent, of course, as TQQQ's back under $22/share.
-hh
Well, let's look at how Lyin' Asshole's strategy played out.
I figured you'd crawl back as soon as you were 'safely' above water.
Post by Tommy
The Fed announced today a 0.25% rate hike and indicated they were close to the end of rate hikes.
"The Fed Raises Rates a Quarter Point and Signals More Ahead
America’s central bank has shifted into a new phase, raising rates
more slowly as inflation shows signs of moderating."
<https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/01/business/federal-reserve-interest-rates.html>
It includes a statement of "...“a couple more” rate increases..." too.
Post by Tommy
This is what I was anticipating, and the market responded accordingly.
TQQQ is now at 24.39, giving me about an 11% gain in less than 90 days - not bad.
So? Does that mean that you sold today?
So, you STATED that I had a 20% LOSS w/o asking me if I had sold!
"Tommy's silent, of course, as TQQQ's back under $22/share. "
Plus Tommy's silent on if he's bailed out of TQQQ with just his 11% gain (before STCG taxes).
Post by -hh
Post by Tommy
WHY don't you maintain the same standards????
Sorry, but I *exceed* the standards that you use, by actually substantiating statements.
Post by Tommy
Post by -hh
Post by Tommy
More importantly, the trajectory going forward is much more likely to be up than down.
Yes, that's what the Fed said: "...“a couple more” rate increases...".
Or did you mean to suggest something else?
Hey Lyin' Asshole, I'm going to give you the MOST IMPORTANT piece of advice yet: the Fed is near
the end of their rate increases and the market KNOWS that. Prices have ALREADY factored those
increases in and company profits have ABSORBED those increases, so the market is GREEN-LIGHTED
for an upside move. In other words, we have already seen the market BOTTOM. Is that clear enough
for your peanut-sized brain??????
So you've definitively called the bottom. Does this also mean that you're also saying that there will be
no recession in 2023 either?
Hmmm...
Post by -hh
Post by Tommy
Post by -hh
Post by Tommy
Meanwhile, the Lyin' Asshole has his thumb up his ass, not knowing what to do, but what else is new?
Golly, looks like Mr. Senile forgot that someone mentioned buying TQQQ in December
Hey LA, did you BUY TQQQ at that price? I DOUBT IT!!!!
<http://huntzinger.com/usenet/2022-TQQQ_redacted.gif>
Granted, it is redacted, but it is nevertheless sufficient to show a TQQQ purchase in December, at
a price whose first digit is a "1" instead of a "2". Go ahead and complain that this isn't good enough,
but do so by leading by example, by posting your own purchase order record of CVX to show what
the minimum disclosure resolution is that you want to see.
Still waiting.
Post by -hh
Post by Tommy
Post by -hh
[quote]
12/27/22 update: TQQQ low & close: $16.72 & $16.84
Looks like I can expect some paperwork in the mail from a certain limit order...
[/quote]
Hmmm...that suggests something north of +40%, doesn't it?
Not for you because you DIDN'T BUY IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Except for how any TQQQ purchase below $20.00 versus your $24.39 price point
would be at least a +22% gain.
If PP = $19.50 --> +25%
If PP = $19.00 --> +28%
If PP = $18.50 --> +32%
If PP = $18.00 --> +36%
If PP = $17.50 --> +39%
If PP = $17.00 --> +43%
If PP = $16.50 --> +48%
etc
Meantime, today's jobs report was too strong, so Markets are dropping because they know
that that's meat for the Federal Reserve to keep on increasing rates for longer = a Tommy oops!
Without nitpicking, ...
This would be the part where Tommy tries to ignore that his call that the Feds have ended making
rate hikes is looking quite incorrect at the end of last week. Plus Tommy's silent on if he's bailed
out of TQQQ with just a 11% gain (before STCG taxes).
... its good to see that you followed my advice FOR ONCE!
Nah, the TQQQ holdings are insignificant: they're worth the entertainment value of seeing you
squirm, because no matter what brag you try to make, you know someone else is doing better than you.
The Lyin' Asshole's string of lies is unbroken: WHEN did I say that the Fed had ENDED their rate hikes?
"....indicated they were close to the end of rate hikes."
That's in conjunction and context with how you've not denied having also called the bottom already, as well as
the elaborations on how a bottom occurs only a few months before the last rate hikes. Together, it points to
the Fed's March meeting as being the last rate hike as being what you meant - - at the time you said it.
Naturally, now that the Fed has clearly said otherwise, you're trying to change what you meant, particularly
particularly since the June and even May Fed meeting dates are already too far into 2023 for a reasonable
expectation of a Fed rate cut occurring 2023, because any sort of Fed rates hold duration would be negated.
Meantime, you're silent on if you already bailed out of TQQQ at its 11% gain point (before STCG taxes).
Ditto on you providing clarity on if you're also saying that there will be no recession in 2023 either.
As well as your mystery purchase record on CVX....oh, gosh on INTC too (purchased claimed prior to 11 Jan 22)
Hey Asshole, at least you ADMIT that I didn't say the Fed was DONE with rate hikes.
There are, at least, two more rate hikes in the works, PROBABLY (note I am not declaring this) 0.25% each.
Oh, so it’s “at least two”? That’s what’s now supposed to be “close”? This pushes out the first
meeting with no expected rate hike to mid-June, so where does that now place your bottom,
for which you’ve previously said “I am saying that the market is going thru a bottoming process
this quarter.”, which ends in just 51 days? Trying to copy my 1H comment?
So, now you are arguing about what "close" means. Sorry, but your sorry ass doesn't deserve an education in that.
Post by Tommy
We have ALREADY had our recession which you profoundly waffled about.
No, NBER is the authority on that, and they’ve not made that call. Sorry.
Sorry, but we WERE.
Post by Tommy
I have ALREADY put you on notice that I AM NOT informing you of all my trades, …
Non sequitur, as you’ve been on notice yourself that you can’t make any claims on any
trades that you’ve not posted prior adequate notice. Thus, you’ll no longer be able to
cherry-pick from your entire portfolio to find a winner to claim…unless you choose to
disclose your entire portfolio, of course.
You are a PIECE OF WORK, Asshole! I owe you exactly NOTHING, which is exactly what you DESERVE. You are a loser living a life of quiet desperation that looks at diminishing those that have done better than you.
Post by Tommy
… just as YOU are not doing the same (and, now, declaring that you bought TQQQ
with a very suspicious trade confirmation).
Nah, you’ve already been told to provide an example of your own trades with the level
of detail you’re trying to complain about not getting from others…and have not done so.
Post by Tommy
Let's face it: you're jealous of my success and want to belittle it at every opportunity.
So be it - you are welcome to wallow in your proven mediocrity.
Sorry, but you do that all on your own and to yourself. No one here has any reason
to be in the least jealous of your little goldfish bowl’s echo chamber.
Yeah, right - coming from a loser.
-hh
-hh
2023-02-09 13:14:35 UTC
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Well, after yesterday's correction, seems about right to pull on Tommy's
chain again on how well his 'TQQQ' is doing.
Meantime...
Probably time to check these again; midday 22 Aug 22
Post by -hh
[YTD's were as of 19 May 2022]
BCE (DIV 5.3%) +2.3% Aug --> -2.81%
BBY (DIV 3.5%) -23% Aug --> -20.43%
CVX (DIV 3.5%) +40% Aug --> +33.69%
ED (DIV 3.5%) +12% Aug --> +18.11%
ENB (DIV 6%) +16% Aug --> +13.26%
JNJ (DIV 2.4%) +3.3% Aug --> -0.32%
LMT (DIV 2.6%) +22% Aug --> +25.64%
NVS (DIV 2.5%) +1.8% Aug --> -2.74%
VTRS (DIV 4.5%) -14% Aug --> -22.55%
--------------------------------------
Total portfolio slice is still net positive 'YTD', by +6.1%, which contrasts ever
so slightly to the likes of Tommy's TQQQ being down by a mere -66%.
YTD is still positive, at +4.65% whereas TQQQ at $32.4 is in the red at -62% ... although
to be fair, that is a four point recovery since May. Of course, this +4.65% is before
dividends (roughly +2.5%), so one could say that it is effectively at +7% YTD.
Been way too long since reporting back on this...
BCE (DIV 5.3%) -14%
BBY (DIV 3.5%) -18%
CVX (DIV 3.5%) +44%
ED (DIV 3.5%) +13%
ENB (DIV 6%) +1%
JNJ (DIV 2.4%) +5%
LMT (DIV 2.6%) +39%
NVS (DIV 2.5%) +4%
VTRS (DIV 4.5%) -18%
Total portfolio slice is still net positive 'YTD', by +5.54% on Equities values...plus, of
course, the dividends spun off...roughly another +3.77%, so approx. +9% paper return.
+7.34% appreciation, plus the dividends, so roughly a 10%-11% YoY return.
Post by -hh
Apologies, forgot to include the comparison back to TQQQ for Tommy.
TQQQ (close yesterday) at $18.27 ... down -17% since Tommy's claimed purchase of it
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.sport.golf/c/ooGucHaSsFI/m/DpkT6VenAwAJ>
Tommy's silent, of course, as TQQQ's back under $22/share.
-hh
Well, let's look at how Lyin' Asshole's strategy played out.
I figured you'd crawl back as soon as you were 'safely' above water.
Post by Tommy
The Fed announced today a 0.25% rate hike and indicated they were close to the end of rate hikes.
"The Fed Raises Rates a Quarter Point and Signals More Ahead
America’s central bank has shifted into a new phase, raising rates
more slowly as inflation shows signs of moderating."
<https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/01/business/federal-reserve-interest-rates.html>
It includes a statement of "...“a couple more” rate increases..." too.
Post by Tommy
This is what I was anticipating, and the market responded accordingly.
TQQQ is now at 24.39, giving me about an 11% gain in less than 90 days - not bad.
So? Does that mean that you sold today?
So, you STATED that I had a 20% LOSS w/o asking me if I had sold!
"Tommy's silent, of course, as TQQQ's back under $22/share. "
Plus Tommy's silent on if he's bailed out of TQQQ with just his 11% gain (before STCG taxes).
Post by -hh
Post by Tommy
WHY don't you maintain the same standards????
Sorry, but I *exceed* the standards that you use, by actually substantiating statements.
Post by Tommy
Post by -hh
Post by Tommy
More importantly, the trajectory going forward is much more likely to be up than down.
Yes, that's what the Fed said: "...“a couple more” rate increases...".
Or did you mean to suggest something else?
Hey Lyin' Asshole, I'm going to give you the MOST IMPORTANT piece of advice yet: the Fed is near
the end of their rate increases and the market KNOWS that. Prices have ALREADY factored those
increases in and company profits have ABSORBED those increases, so the market is GREEN-LIGHTED
for an upside move. In other words, we have already seen the market BOTTOM. Is that clear enough
for your peanut-sized brain??????
So you've definitively called the bottom. Does this also mean that you're also saying that there will be
no recession in 2023 either?
Hmmm...
Post by -hh
Post by Tommy
Post by -hh
Post by Tommy
Meanwhile, the Lyin' Asshole has his thumb up his ass, not knowing what to do, but what else is new?
Golly, looks like Mr. Senile forgot that someone mentioned buying TQQQ in December
Hey LA, did you BUY TQQQ at that price? I DOUBT IT!!!!
<http://huntzinger.com/usenet/2022-TQQQ_redacted.gif>
Granted, it is redacted, but it is nevertheless sufficient to show a TQQQ purchase in December, at
a price whose first digit is a "1" instead of a "2". Go ahead and complain that this isn't good enough,
but do so by leading by example, by posting your own purchase order record of CVX to show what
the minimum disclosure resolution is that you want to see.
Still waiting.
Post by -hh
Post by Tommy
Post by -hh
[quote]
12/27/22 update: TQQQ low & close: $16.72 & $16.84
Looks like I can expect some paperwork in the mail from a certain limit order...
[/quote]
Hmmm...that suggests something north of +40%, doesn't it?
Not for you because you DIDN'T BUY IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Except for how any TQQQ purchase below $20.00 versus your $24.39 price point
would be at least a +22% gain.
If PP = $19.50 --> +25%
If PP = $19.00 --> +28%
If PP = $18.50 --> +32%
If PP = $18.00 --> +36%
If PP = $17.50 --> +39%
If PP = $17.00 --> +43%
If PP = $16.50 --> +48%
etc
Meantime, today's jobs report was too strong, so Markets are dropping because they know
that that's meat for the Federal Reserve to keep on increasing rates for longer = a Tommy oops!
Without nitpicking, ...
This would be the part where Tommy tries to ignore that his call that the Feds have ended making
rate hikes is looking quite incorrect at the end of last week. Plus Tommy's silent on if he's bailed
out of TQQQ with just a 11% gain (before STCG taxes).
... its good to see that you followed my advice FOR ONCE!
Nah, the TQQQ holdings are insignificant: they're worth the entertainment value of seeing you
squirm, because no matter what brag you try to make, you know someone else is doing better than you.
The Lyin' Asshole's string of lies is unbroken: WHEN did I say that the Fed had ENDED their rate hikes?
"....indicated they were close to the end of rate hikes."
That's in conjunction and context with how you've not denied having also called the bottom already, as well as
the elaborations on how a bottom occurs only a few months before the last rate hikes. Together, it points to
the Fed's March meeting as being the last rate hike as being what you meant - - at the time you said it.
Naturally, now that the Fed has clearly said otherwise, you're trying to change what you meant, particularly
particularly since the June and even May Fed meeting dates are already too far into 2023 for a reasonable
expectation of a Fed rate cut occurring 2023, because any sort of Fed rates hold duration would be negated.
Meantime, you're silent on if you already bailed out of TQQQ at its 11% gain point (before STCG taxes).
Ditto on you providing clarity on if you're also saying that there will be no recession in 2023 either.
As well as your mystery purchase record on CVX....oh, gosh on INTC too (purchased claimed prior to 11 Jan 22)
Hey Asshole, at least you ADMIT that I didn't say the Fed was DONE with rate hikes.
There are, at least, two more rate hikes in the works, PROBABLY (note I am not declaring this) 0.25% each.
Oh, so it’s “at least two”? That’s what’s now supposed to be “close”? This pushes out the first
meeting with no expected rate hike to mid-June, so where does that now place your bottom,
for which you’ve previously said “I am saying that the market is going thru a bottoming process
this quarter.”, which ends in just 51 days? Trying to copy my 1H comment?
So, now you are arguing about what "close" means. Sorry, but your sorry ass
doesn't deserve an education in that.
Nope, just illustrating how you’re trying to a rubber ruler…again. And got caught…again.
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Post by Tommy
We have ALREADY had our recession which you profoundly waffled about.
No, NBER is the authority on that, and they’ve not made that call. Sorry.
Sorry, but we WERE.
Nope. No matter what you want to believe, NBER has not made that determination.
Post by Tommy
Post by Tommy
I have ALREADY put you on notice that I AM NOT informing you of all my trades, …
Non sequitur, as you’ve been on notice yourself that you can’t make any claims on any
trades that you’ve not posted prior adequate notice. Thus, you’ll no longer be able to
cherry-pick from your entire portfolio to find a winner to claim…unless you choose to
disclose your entire portfolio, of course.
You are a PIECE OF WORK, Asshole! I owe you exactly NOTHING, which is exactly
what you DESERVE. You are a loser living a life of quiet desperation that looks at
diminishing those that have done better than you.
Golly, that reflection you see of yourself in the mirror really is quite ugly, isn’t it?
Post by Tommy
Post by Tommy
… just as YOU are not doing the same (and, now, declaring that you bought TQQQ
with a very suspicious trade confirmation).
Nah, you’ve already been told to provide an example of your own trades with the level
of detail you’re trying to complain about not getting from others…and have not done so.
Silence from Tommy.
Post by Tommy
Post by Tommy
Let's face it: you're jealous of my success and want to belittle it at every opportunity.
So be it - you are welcome to wallow in your proven mediocrity.
Sorry, but you do that all on your own and to yourself. No one here has any reason
to be in the least jealous of your little goldfish bowl’s echo chamber.
Yeah, right - coming from a loser.
Nah, the problem you have Tommy is that I’ve not tried to brag as much as you, so
you’re stuck in the “absence of evidence is not evidence of absence” logical trap.

Plus even when I’ve dropped clues, you’ve been unable and/or unwilling to
comprehend and/or acknowledge their significance. Your loss, not mine.

BTW, a retired friend sent me these two links recently; first is an illustration
whereas the second is a quasi-analysis…a bit overly broad, but nevertheless
revealing on some of your behavior:

< https://www.bogleheads.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=396981&sid=7b59bcd7747813e9852733284ece221f>

< https://bowtiedbull.substack.com/p/going-through-levels-of-wealth>

Quick reads both.

-hh
-hh
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Well, after yesterday's correction, seems about right to pull on Tommy's
chain again on how well his 'TQQQ' is doing.
Meantime...
Probably time to check these again; midday 22 Aug 22
Post by -hh
[YTD's were as of 19 May 2022]
BCE (DIV 5.3%) +2.3% Aug --> -2.81%
BBY (DIV 3.5%) -23% Aug --> -20.43%
CVX (DIV 3.5%) +40% Aug --> +33.69%
ED (DIV 3.5%) +12% Aug --> +18.11%
ENB (DIV 6%) +16% Aug --> +13.26%
JNJ (DIV 2.4%) +3.3% Aug --> -0.32%
LMT (DIV 2.6%) +22% Aug --> +25.64%
NVS (DIV 2.5%) +1.8% Aug --> -2.74%
VTRS (DIV 4.5%) -14% Aug --> -22.55%
--------------------------------------
Total portfolio slice is still net positive 'YTD', by +6.1%, which contrasts ever
so slightly to the likes of Tommy's TQQQ being down by a mere -66%.
YTD is still positive, at +4.65% whereas TQQQ at $32.4 is in the red at -62% ... although
to be fair, that is a four point recovery since May. Of course, this +4.65% is before
dividends (roughly +2.5%), so one could say that it is effectively at +7% YTD.
Been way too long since reporting back on this...
BCE (DIV 5.3%) -14%
BBY (DIV 3.5%) -18%
CVX (DIV 3.5%) +44%
ED (DIV 3.5%) +13%
ENB (DIV 6%) +1%
JNJ (DIV 2.4%) +5%
LMT (DIV 2.6%) +39%
NVS (DIV 2.5%) +4%
VTRS (DIV 4.5%) -18%
Total portfolio slice is still net positive 'YTD', by +5.54% on Equities values...plus, of
course, the dividends spun off...roughly another +3.77%, so approx. +9% paper return.
+7.34% appreciation, plus the dividends, so roughly a 10%-11% YoY return.
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Apologies, forgot to include the comparison back to TQQQ for Tommy.
TQQQ (close yesterday) at $18.27 ... down -17% since Tommy's claimed purchase of it
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.sport.golf/c/ooGucHaSsFI/m/DpkT6VenAwAJ>
Tommy's silent, of course, as TQQQ's back under $22/share.
-hh
Well, let's look at how Lyin' Asshole's strategy played out.
I figured you'd crawl back as soon as you were 'safely' above water.
Post by Tommy
The Fed announced today a 0.25% rate hike and indicated they were close to the end of rate hikes.
"The Fed Raises Rates a Quarter Point and Signals More Ahead
America’s central bank has shifted into a new phase, raising rates
more slowly as inflation shows signs of moderating."
<https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/01/business/federal-reserve-interest-rates.html>
It includes a statement of "...“a couple more” rate increases..." too.
Post by Tommy
This is what I was anticipating, and the market responded accordingly.
TQQQ is now at 24.39, giving me about an 11% gain in less than 90 days - not bad.
So? Does that mean that you sold today?
So, you STATED that I had a 20% LOSS w/o asking me if I had sold!
"Tommy's silent, of course, as TQQQ's back under $22/share. "
Plus Tommy's silent on if he's bailed out of TQQQ with just his 11% gain (before STCG taxes).
Post by -hh
Post by Tommy
WHY don't you maintain the same standards????
Sorry, but I *exceed* the standards that you use, by actually substantiating statements.
Post by Tommy
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More importantly, the trajectory going forward is much more likely to be up than down.
Yes, that's what the Fed said: "...“a couple more” rate increases...".
Or did you mean to suggest something else?
Hey Lyin' Asshole, I'm going to give you the MOST IMPORTANT piece of advice yet: the Fed is near
the end of their rate increases and the market KNOWS that. Prices have ALREADY factored those
increases in and company profits have ABSORBED those increases, so the market is GREEN-LIGHTED
for an upside move. In other words, we have already seen the market BOTTOM. Is that clear enough
for your peanut-sized brain??????
So you've definitively called the bottom. Does this also mean that you're also saying that there will be
no recession in 2023 either?
Hmmm...
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Meanwhile, the Lyin' Asshole has his thumb up his ass, not knowing what to do, but what else is new?
Golly, looks like Mr. Senile forgot that someone mentioned buying TQQQ in December
Hey LA, did you BUY TQQQ at that price? I DOUBT IT!!!!
<http://huntzinger.com/usenet/2022-TQQQ_redacted.gif>
Granted, it is redacted, but it is nevertheless sufficient to show a TQQQ purchase in December, at
a price whose first digit is a "1" instead of a "2". Go ahead and complain that this isn't good enough,
but do so by leading by example, by posting your own purchase order record of CVX to show what
the minimum disclosure resolution is that you want to see.
Still waiting.
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[quote]
12/27/22 update: TQQQ low & close: $16.72 & $16.84
Looks like I can expect some paperwork in the mail from a certain limit order...
[/quote]
Hmmm...that suggests something north of +40%, doesn't it?
Not for you because you DIDN'T BUY IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Except for how any TQQQ purchase below $20.00 versus your $24.39 price point
would be at least a +22% gain.
If PP = $19.50 --> +25%
If PP = $19.00 --> +28%
If PP = $18.50 --> +32%
If PP = $18.00 --> +36%
If PP = $17.50 --> +39%
If PP = $17.00 --> +43%
If PP = $16.50 --> +48%
etc
Meantime, today's jobs report was too strong, so Markets are dropping because they know
that that's meat for the Federal Reserve to keep on increasing rates for longer = a Tommy oops!
Without nitpicking, ...
This would be the part where Tommy tries to ignore that his call that the Feds have ended making
rate hikes is looking quite incorrect at the end of last week. Plus Tommy's silent on if he's bailed
out of TQQQ with just a 11% gain (before STCG taxes).
... its good to see that you followed my advice FOR ONCE!
Nah, the TQQQ holdings are insignificant: they're worth the entertainment value of seeing you
squirm, because no matter what brag you try to make, you know someone else is doing better than you.
The Lyin' Asshole's string of lies is unbroken: WHEN did I say that the Fed had ENDED their rate hikes?
"....indicated they were close to the end of rate hikes."
That's in conjunction and context with how you've not denied having also called the bottom already, as well as
the elaborations on how a bottom occurs only a few months before the last rate hikes. Together, it points to
the Fed's March meeting as being the last rate hike as being what you meant - - at the time you said it.
Naturally, now that the Fed has clearly said otherwise, you're trying to change what you meant, particularly
particularly since the June and even May Fed meeting dates are already too far into 2023 for a reasonable
expectation of a Fed rate cut occurring 2023, because any sort of Fed rates hold duration would be negated.
Meantime, you're silent on if you already bailed out of TQQQ at its 11% gain point (before STCG taxes).
Ditto on you providing clarity on if you're also saying that there will be no recession in 2023 either.
As well as your mystery purchase record on CVX....oh, gosh on INTC too (purchased claimed prior to 11 Jan 22)
INTC values as of:
31 Dec 21: $48.94**
11 Jan 22: $52.46
11 Feb 23: $27.80

** - adjusted close; lowest daily non-adjusted low for 10/31/21 through 1/11/22 was $49.18
Post by Tommy
Post by Tommy
Hey Asshole, at least you ADMIT that I didn't say the Fed was DONE with rate hikes.
There are, at least, two more rate hikes in the works, PROBABLY (note I am not declaring this) 0.25% each.
Oh, so it’s “at least two”? That’s what’s now supposed to be “close”? This pushes out the first
meeting with no expected rate hike to mid-June, so where does that now place your bottom,
for which you’ve previously said “I am saying that the market is going thru a bottoming process
this quarter.”, which ends in just 51 days? Trying to copy my 1H comment?
So, now you are arguing about what "close" means. Sorry, but your sorry ass
doesn't deserve an education in that.
Nope, just illustrating how you’re trying to [use] a rubber ruler…again. And got caught…again.
Post by Tommy
Post by Tommy
We have ALREADY had our recession which you profoundly waffled about.
No, NBER is the authority on that, and they’ve not made that call. Sorry.
Sorry, but we WERE.
Nope. No matter what you want to believe, NBER has not made that determination.
Post by Tommy
Post by Tommy
I have ALREADY put you on notice that I AM NOT informing you of all my trades, …
Non sequitur, as you’ve been on notice yourself that you can’t make any claims on any
trades that you’ve not posted prior adequate notice. Thus, you’ll no longer be able to
cherry-pick from your entire portfolio to find a winner to claim…unless you choose to
disclose your entire portfolio, of course.
You are a PIECE OF WORK, Asshole! I owe you exactly NOTHING, which is exactly
what you DESERVE. You are a loser living a life of quiet desperation that looks at
diminishing those that have done better than you.
Golly, that reflection you see of yourself in the mirror really is quite ugly, isn’t it?
Post by Tommy
Post by Tommy
… just as YOU are not doing the same (and, now, declaring that you bought TQQQ
with a very suspicious trade confirmation).
Nah, you’ve already been told to provide an example of your own trades with the level
of detail you’re trying to complain about not getting from others…and have not done so.
Silence from Tommy.
Post by Tommy
Post by Tommy
Let's face it: you're jealous of my success and want to belittle it at every opportunity.
So be it - you are welcome to wallow in your proven mediocrity.
Sorry, but you do that all on your own and to yourself. No one here has any reason
to be in the least jealous of your little goldfish bowl’s echo chamber.
Yeah, right - coming from a loser.
Nah, the problem you have Tommy is that I’ve not tried to brag as much as you, so
you’re stuck in the “absence of evidence is not evidence of absence” logical trap.
Plus even when I’ve dropped clues, you’ve been unable and/or unwilling to
comprehend and/or acknowledge their significance. Your loss, not mine.
BTW, a retired friend sent me these two links recently; first is an illustration
whereas the second is a quasi-analysis…a bit overly broad, but nevertheless
< https://www.bogleheads.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=396981&sid=7b59bcd7747813e9852733284ece221f>
< https://bowtiedbull.substack.com/p/going-through-levels-of-wealth>
Quick reads both.
Gosh, Tommy's gone silent. Perhaps from this in the last cite:

[quote]

Common tells of the Upper Middle Class belief system

* Absolute obsession with being seen as important...
* Insecurity...
* Passive aggressive behavior...Constant emphasis on how “high they are up the chain”.
* Obsession with “comp”....common for them to prod and try to figure out how much you make...

[/quote]


-hh
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Well, after yesterday's correction, seems about right to pull on Tommy's
chain again on how well his 'TQQQ' is doing.
Meantime...
Probably time to check these again; midday 22 Aug 22
Post by -hh
[YTD's were as of 19 May 2022]
BCE (DIV 5.3%) +2.3% Aug --> -2.81%
BBY (DIV 3.5%) -23% Aug --> -20.43%
CVX (DIV 3.5%) +40% Aug --> +33.69%
ED (DIV 3.5%) +12% Aug --> +18.11%
ENB (DIV 6%) +16% Aug --> +13.26%
JNJ (DIV 2.4%) +3.3% Aug --> -0.32%
LMT (DIV 2.6%) +22% Aug --> +25.64%
NVS (DIV 2.5%) +1.8% Aug --> -2.74%
VTRS (DIV 4.5%) -14% Aug --> -22.55%
--------------------------------------
Total portfolio slice is still net positive 'YTD', by +6.1%, which contrasts ever
so slightly to the likes of Tommy's TQQQ being down by a mere -66%.
YTD is still positive, at +4.65% whereas TQQQ at $32.4 is in the red at -62% ... although
to be fair, that is a four point recovery since May. Of course, this +4.65% is before
dividends (roughly +2.5%), so one could say that it is effectively at +7% YTD.
Been way too long since reporting back on this...
BCE (DIV 5.3%) -14%
BBY (DIV 3.5%) -18%
CVX (DIV 3.5%) +44%
ED (DIV 3.5%) +13%
ENB (DIV 6%) +1%
JNJ (DIV 2.4%) +5%
LMT (DIV 2.6%) +39%
NVS (DIV 2.5%) +4%
VTRS (DIV 4.5%) -18%
Total portfolio slice is still net positive 'YTD', by +5.54% on Equities values...plus, of
course, the dividends spun off...roughly another +3.77%, so approx. +9% paper return.
+7.34% appreciation, plus the dividends, so roughly a 10%-11% YoY return.
Post by -hh
Apologies, forgot to include the comparison back to TQQQ for Tommy.
TQQQ (close yesterday) at $18.27 ... down -17% since Tommy's claimed purchase of it
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.sport.golf/c/ooGucHaSsFI/m/DpkT6VenAwAJ>
Tommy's silent, of course, as TQQQ's back under $22/share.
-hh
Well, let's look at how Lyin' Asshole's strategy played out.
I figured you'd crawl back as soon as you were 'safely' above water.
Post by Tommy
The Fed announced today a 0.25% rate hike and indicated they were close to the end of rate hikes.
"The Fed Raises Rates a Quarter Point and Signals More Ahead
America’s central bank has shifted into a new phase, raising rates
more slowly as inflation shows signs of moderating."
<https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/01/business/federal-reserve-interest-rates.html>
It includes a statement of "...“a couple more” rate increases..." too.
Post by Tommy
This is what I was anticipating, and the market responded accordingly.
TQQQ is now at 24.39, giving me about an 11% gain in less than 90 days - not bad.
So? Does that mean that you sold today?
So, you STATED that I had a 20% LOSS w/o asking me if I had sold!
"Tommy's silent, of course, as TQQQ's back under $22/share. "
Plus Tommy's silent on if he's bailed out of TQQQ with just his 11% gain (before STCG taxes).
Post by -hh
Post by Tommy
WHY don't you maintain the same standards????
Sorry, but I *exceed* the standards that you use, by actually substantiating statements.
Post by Tommy
Post by -hh
Post by Tommy
More importantly, the trajectory going forward is much more likely to be up than down.
Yes, that's what the Fed said: "...“a couple more” rate increases...".
Or did you mean to suggest something else?
Hey Lyin' Asshole, I'm going to give you the MOST IMPORTANT piece of advice yet: the Fed is near
the end of their rate increases and the market KNOWS that. Prices have ALREADY factored those
increases in and company profits have ABSORBED those increases, so the market is GREEN-LIGHTED
for an upside move. In other words, we have already seen the market BOTTOM. Is that clear enough
for your peanut-sized brain??????
So you've definitively called the bottom. Does this also mean that you're also saying that there will be
no recession in 2023 either?
Hmmm...
Post by -hh
Post by Tommy
Post by -hh
Post by Tommy
Meanwhile, the Lyin' Asshole has his thumb up his ass, not knowing what to do, but what else is new?
Golly, looks like Mr. Senile forgot that someone mentioned buying TQQQ in December
Hey LA, did you BUY TQQQ at that price? I DOUBT IT!!!!
<http://huntzinger.com/usenet/2022-TQQQ_redacted.gif>
Granted, it is redacted, but it is nevertheless sufficient to show a TQQQ purchase in December, at
a price whose first digit is a "1" instead of a "2". Go ahead and complain that this isn't good enough,
but do so by leading by example, by posting your own purchase order record of CVX to show what
the minimum disclosure resolution is that you want to see.
Still waiting.
Post by -hh
Post by Tommy
Post by -hh
[quote]
12/27/22 update: TQQQ low & close: $16.72 & $16.84
Looks like I can expect some paperwork in the mail from a certain limit order...
[/quote]
Hmmm...that suggests something north of +40%, doesn't it?
Not for you because you DIDN'T BUY IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Except for how any TQQQ purchase below $20.00 versus your $24.39 price point
would be at least a +22% gain.
If PP = $19.50 --> +25%
If PP = $19.00 --> +28%
If PP = $18.50 --> +32%
If PP = $18.00 --> +36%
If PP = $17.50 --> +39%
If PP = $17.00 --> +43%
If PP = $16.50 --> +48%
etc
Meantime, today's jobs report was too strong, so Markets are dropping because they know
that that's meat for the Federal Reserve to keep on increasing rates for longer = a Tommy oops!
Without nitpicking, ...
This would be the part where Tommy tries to ignore that his call that the Feds have ended making
rate hikes is looking quite incorrect at the end of last week. Plus Tommy's silent on if he's bailed
out of TQQQ with just a 11% gain (before STCG taxes).
... its good to see that you followed my advice FOR ONCE!
Nah, the TQQQ holdings are insignificant: they're worth the entertainment value of seeing you
squirm, because no matter what brag you try to make, you know someone else is doing better than you.
The Lyin' Asshole's string of lies is unbroken: WHEN did I say that the Fed had ENDED their rate hikes?
"....indicated they were close to the end of rate hikes."
That's in conjunction and context with how you've not denied having also called the bottom already, as well as
the elaborations on how a bottom occurs only a few months before the last rate hikes. Together, it points to
the Fed's March meeting as being the last rate hike as being what you meant - - at the time you said it.
Naturally, now that the Fed has clearly said otherwise, you're trying to change what you meant, particularly
particularly since the June and even May Fed meeting dates are already too far into 2023 for a reasonable
expectation of a Fed rate cut occurring 2023, because any sort of Fed rates hold duration would be negated.
Meantime, you're silent on if you already bailed out of TQQQ at its 11% gain point (before STCG taxes).
Ditto on you providing clarity on if you're also saying that there will be no recession in 2023 either.
As well as your mystery purchase record on CVX....oh, gosh on INTC too (purchased claimed prior to 11 Jan 22)
31 Dec 21: $48.94**
11 Jan 22: $52.46
11 Feb 23: $27.80
** - adjusted close; lowest daily non-adjusted low for 10/31/21 through 1/11/22 was $49.18
Post by Tommy
Post by Tommy
Hey Asshole, at least you ADMIT that I didn't say the Fed was DONE with rate hikes.
There are, at least, two more rate hikes in the works, PROBABLY (note I am not declaring this) 0.25% each.
Oh, so it’s “at least two”? That’s what’s now supposed to be “close”? This pushes out the first
meeting with no expected rate hike to mid-June, so where does that now place your bottom,
for which you’ve previously said “I am saying that the market is going thru a bottoming process
this quarter.”, which ends in just 51 days? Trying to copy my 1H comment?
So, now you are arguing about what "close" means. Sorry, but your sorry ass
doesn't deserve an education in that.
Nope, just illustrating how you’re trying to [use] a rubber ruler…again. And got caught…again.
Post by Tommy
Post by Tommy
We have ALREADY had our recession which you profoundly waffled about.
No, NBER is the authority on that, and they’ve not made that call. Sorry.
Sorry, but we WERE.
Nope. No matter what you want to believe, NBER has not made that determination.
Post by Tommy
Post by Tommy
I have ALREADY put you on notice that I AM NOT informing you of all my trades, …
Non sequitur, as you’ve been on notice yourself that you can’t make any claims on any
trades that you’ve not posted prior adequate notice. Thus, you’ll no longer be able to
cherry-pick from your entire portfolio to find a winner to claim…unless you choose to
disclose your entire portfolio, of course.
You are a PIECE OF WORK, Asshole! I owe you exactly NOTHING, which is exactly
what you DESERVE. You are a loser living a life of quiet desperation that looks at
diminishing those that have done better than you.
Golly, that reflection you see of yourself in the mirror really is quite ugly, isn’t it?
Post by Tommy
Post by Tommy
… just as YOU are not doing the same (and, now, declaring that you bought TQQQ
with a very suspicious trade confirmation).
Nah, you’ve already been told to provide an example of your own trades with the level
of detail you’re trying to complain about not getting from others…and have not done so.
Silence from Tommy.
Post by Tommy
Post by Tommy
Let's face it: you're jealous of my success and want to belittle it at every opportunity.
So be it - you are welcome to wallow in your proven mediocrity.
Sorry, but you do that all on your own and to yourself. No one here has any reason
to be in the least jealous of your little goldfish bowl’s echo chamber.
Yeah, right - coming from a loser.
Nah, the problem you have Tommy is that I’ve not tried to brag as much as you, so
you’re stuck in the “absence of evidence is not evidence of absence” logical trap.
Plus even when I’ve dropped clues, you’ve been unable and/or unwilling to
comprehend and/or acknowledge their significance. Your loss, not mine.
BTW, a retired friend sent me these two links recently; first is an illustration
whereas the second is a quasi-analysis…a bit overly broad, but nevertheless
< https://www.bogleheads.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=396981&sid=7b59bcd7747813e9852733284ece221f>
< https://bowtiedbull.substack.com/p/going-through-levels-of-wealth>
Quick reads both.
[quote]
Common tells of the Upper Middle Class belief system
* Absolute obsession with being seen as important...
* Insecurity...
* Passive aggressive behavior...Constant emphasis on how “high they are up the chain”.
* Obsession with “comp”....common for them to prod and try to figure out how much you make...
[/quote]
-hh
YAAAWWWWWNNNNNNNN...

Your attempt at psychoanalysis is PATHETIC, Lyin' Asshole. The bottom line is the same: you just live a miserable life jealous of others who have succeeded where you have failed.
-hh
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Post by -hh
Well, after yesterday's correction, seems about right to pull on Tommy's
chain again on how well his 'TQQQ' is doing.
Meantime...
Probably time to check these again; midday 22 Aug 22
Post by -hh
[YTD's were as of 19 May 2022]
BCE (DIV 5.3%) +2.3% Aug --> -2.81%
BBY (DIV 3.5%) -23% Aug --> -20.43%
CVX (DIV 3.5%) +40% Aug --> +33.69%
ED (DIV 3.5%) +12% Aug --> +18.11%
ENB (DIV 6%) +16% Aug --> +13.26%
JNJ (DIV 2.4%) +3.3% Aug --> -0.32%
LMT (DIV 2.6%) +22% Aug --> +25.64%
NVS (DIV 2.5%) +1.8% Aug --> -2.74%
VTRS (DIV 4.5%) -14% Aug --> -22.55%
--------------------------------------
Total portfolio slice is still net positive 'YTD', by +6.1%, which contrasts ever
so slightly to the likes of Tommy's TQQQ being down by a mere -66%.
YTD is still positive, at +4.65% whereas TQQQ at $32.4 is in the red at -62% ... although
to be fair, that is a four point recovery since May. Of course, this +4.65% is before
dividends (roughly +2.5%), so one could say that it is effectively at +7% YTD.
Been way too long since reporting back on this...
BCE (DIV 5.3%) -14%
BBY (DIV 3.5%) -18%
CVX (DIV 3.5%) +44%
ED (DIV 3.5%) +13%
ENB (DIV 6%) +1%
JNJ (DIV 2.4%) +5%
LMT (DIV 2.6%) +39%
NVS (DIV 2.5%) +4%
VTRS (DIV 4.5%) -18%
Total portfolio slice is still net positive 'YTD', by +5.54% on Equities values...plus, of
course, the dividends spun off...roughly another +3.77%, so approx. +9% paper return.
+7.34% appreciation, plus the dividends, so roughly a 10%-11% YoY return.
Post by -hh
Apologies, forgot to include the comparison back to TQQQ for Tommy.
TQQQ (close yesterday) at $18.27 ... down -17% since Tommy's claimed purchase of it
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.sport.golf/c/ooGucHaSsFI/m/DpkT6VenAwAJ>
Tommy's silent, of course, as TQQQ's back under $22/share.
-hh
Well, let's look at how Lyin' Asshole's strategy played out.
I figured you'd crawl back as soon as you were 'safely' above water.
Post by Tommy
The Fed announced today a 0.25% rate hike and indicated they were close to the end of rate hikes.
"The Fed Raises Rates a Quarter Point and Signals More Ahead
America’s central bank has shifted into a new phase, raising rates
more slowly as inflation shows signs of moderating."
<https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/01/business/federal-reserve-interest-rates.html>
It includes a statement of "...“a couple more” rate increases..." too.
Post by Tommy
This is what I was anticipating, and the market responded accordingly.
TQQQ is now at 24.39, giving me about an 11% gain in less than 90 days - not bad.
So? Does that mean that you sold today?
So, you STATED that I had a 20% LOSS w/o asking me if I had sold!
"Tommy's silent, of course, as TQQQ's back under $22/share. "
Plus Tommy's silent on if he's bailed out of TQQQ with just his 11% gain (before STCG taxes).
Post by -hh
Post by Tommy
WHY don't you maintain the same standards????
Sorry, but I *exceed* the standards that you use, by actually substantiating statements.
Post by Tommy
Post by -hh
Post by Tommy
More importantly, the trajectory going forward is much more likely to be up than down.
Yes, that's what the Fed said: "...“a couple more” rate increases...".
Or did you mean to suggest something else?
Hey Lyin' Asshole, I'm going to give you the MOST IMPORTANT piece of advice yet: the Fed is near
the end of their rate increases and the market KNOWS that. Prices have ALREADY factored those
increases in and company profits have ABSORBED those increases, so the market is GREEN-LIGHTED
for an upside move. In other words, we have already seen the market BOTTOM. Is that clear enough
for your peanut-sized brain??????
So you've definitively called the bottom. Does this also mean that you're also saying that there will be
no recession in 2023 either?
Hmmm...
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Meanwhile, the Lyin' Asshole has his thumb up his ass, not knowing what to do, but what else is new?
Golly, looks like Mr. Senile forgot that someone mentioned buying TQQQ in December
Hey LA, did you BUY TQQQ at that price? I DOUBT IT!!!!
<http://huntzinger.com/usenet/2022-TQQQ_redacted.gif>
Granted, it is redacted, but it is nevertheless sufficient to show a TQQQ purchase in December, at
a price whose first digit is a "1" instead of a "2". Go ahead and complain that this isn't good enough,
but do so by leading by example, by posting your own purchase order record of CVX to show what
the minimum disclosure resolution is that you want to see.
Still waiting.
Post by -hh
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Post by -hh
[quote]
12/27/22 update: TQQQ low & close: $16.72 & $16.84
Looks like I can expect some paperwork in the mail from a certain limit order...
[/quote]
Hmmm...that suggests something north of +40%, doesn't it?
Not for you because you DIDN'T BUY IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Except for how any TQQQ purchase below $20.00 versus your $24.39 price point
would be at least a +22% gain.
If PP = $19.50 --> +25%
If PP = $19.00 --> +28%
If PP = $18.50 --> +32%
If PP = $18.00 --> +36%
If PP = $17.50 --> +39%
If PP = $17.00 --> +43%
If PP = $16.50 --> +48%
etc
Meantime, today's jobs report was too strong, so Markets are dropping because they know
that that's meat for the Federal Reserve to keep on increasing rates for longer = a Tommy oops!
Without nitpicking, ...
This would be the part where Tommy tries to ignore that his call that the Feds have ended making
rate hikes is looking quite incorrect at the end of last week. Plus Tommy's silent on if he's bailed
out of TQQQ with just a 11% gain (before STCG taxes).
... its good to see that you followed my advice FOR ONCE!
Nah, the TQQQ holdings are insignificant: they're worth the entertainment value of seeing you
squirm, because no matter what brag you try to make, you know someone else is doing better than you.
The Lyin' Asshole's string of lies is unbroken: WHEN did I say that the Fed had ENDED their rate hikes?
"....indicated they were close to the end of rate hikes."
That's in conjunction and context with how you've not denied having also called the bottom already, as well as
the elaborations on how a bottom occurs only a few months before the last rate hikes. Together, it points to
the Fed's March meeting as being the last rate hike as being what you meant - - at the time you said it.
Naturally, now that the Fed has clearly said otherwise, you're trying to change what you meant, particularly
particularly since the June and even May Fed meeting dates are already too far into 2023 for a reasonable
expectation of a Fed rate cut occurring 2023, because any sort of Fed rates hold duration would be negated.
Meantime, you're silent on if you already bailed out of TQQQ at its 11% gain point (before STCG taxes).
Ditto on you providing clarity on if you're also saying that there will be no recession in 2023 either.
As well as your mystery purchase record on CVX....oh, gosh on INTC too (purchased claimed prior to 11 Jan 22)
31 Dec 21: $48.94**
11 Jan 22: $52.46
11 Feb 23: $27.80
** - adjusted close; lowest daily non-adjusted low for 10/31/21 through 1/11/22 was $49.18
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Hey Asshole, at least you ADMIT that I didn't say the Fed was DONE with rate hikes.
There are, at least, two more rate hikes in the works, PROBABLY (note I am not declaring this) 0.25% each.
Oh, so it’s “at least two”? That’s what’s now supposed to be “close”? This pushes out the first
meeting with no expected rate hike to mid-June, so where does that now place your bottom,
for which you’ve previously said “I am saying that the market is going thru a bottoming process
this quarter.”, which ends in just 51 days? Trying to copy my 1H comment?
So, now you are arguing about what "close" means. Sorry, but your sorry ass
doesn't deserve an education in that.
Nope, just illustrating how you’re trying to [use] a rubber ruler…again. And got caught…again.
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Post by Tommy
We have ALREADY had our recession which you profoundly waffled about.
No, NBER is the authority on that, and they’ve not made that call. Sorry.
Sorry, but we WERE.
Nope. No matter what you want to believe, NBER has not made that determination.
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Post by Tommy
I have ALREADY put you on notice that I AM NOT informing you of all my trades, …
Non sequitur, as you’ve been on notice yourself that you can’t make any claims on any
trades that you’ve not posted prior adequate notice. Thus, you’ll no longer be able to
cherry-pick from your entire portfolio to find a winner to claim…unless you choose to
disclose your entire portfolio, of course.
You are a PIECE OF WORK, Asshole! I owe you exactly NOTHING, which is exactly
what you DESERVE. You are a loser living a life of quiet desperation that looks at
diminishing those that have done better than you.
Golly, that reflection you see of yourself in the mirror really is quite ugly, isn’t it?
Post by Tommy
Post by Tommy
… just as YOU are not doing the same (and, now, declaring that you bought TQQQ
with a very suspicious trade confirmation).
Nah, you’ve already been told to provide an example of your own trades with the level
of detail you’re trying to complain about not getting from others…and have not done so.
Silence from Tommy.
Post by Tommy
Post by Tommy
Let's face it: you're jealous of my success and want to belittle it at every opportunity.
So be it - you are welcome to wallow in your proven mediocrity.
Sorry, but you do that all on your own and to yourself. No one here has any reason
to be in the least jealous of your little goldfish bowl’s echo chamber.
Yeah, right - coming from a loser.
Nah, the problem you have Tommy is that I’ve not tried to brag as much as you, so
you’re stuck in the “absence of evidence is not evidence of absence” logical trap.
Plus even when I’ve dropped clues, you’ve been unable and/or unwilling to
comprehend and/or acknowledge their significance. Your loss, not mine.
BTW, a retired friend sent me these two links recently; first is an illustration
whereas the second is a quasi-analysis…a bit overly broad, but nevertheless
< https://www.bogleheads.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=396981&sid=7b59bcd7747813e9852733284ece221f>
< https://bowtiedbull.substack.com/p/going-through-levels-of-wealth>
Quick reads both.
[quote]
Common tells of the Upper Middle Class belief system
* Absolute obsession with being seen as important...
* Insecurity...
* Passive aggressive behavior...Constant emphasis on how “high they are up the chain”.
* Obsession with “comp”....common for them to prod and try to figure out how much you make...
[/quote]
YAAAWWWWWNNNNNNNN...
“Cry harder”, Tommy.
Post by Tommy
Your attempt at psychoanalysis is PATHETIC, Lyin' Asshole.
It’s not mine:

[quote]
* Absolute obsession with being seen as important...
* Insecurity...
* Passive aggressive behavior...Constant emphasis on how “high they are up the chain”.
* Obsession with “comp”....common for them to prod and try to figure out how much you make...
[/quote]

Shoot the messenger much?
Post by Tommy
The bottom line is the same: you just live a miserable life jealous of others
who have succeeded where you have failed.
YA instance of a (self-alleged) RSG “multimillionaire” being vain & bitter.

Naturally, Tommy has provided zero quantified metrics for what anyone is
supposed to be jealous of him for. Perhaps it will be stomach acidity level?

-hh
Tommy
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Well, after yesterday's correction, seems about right to pull on Tommy's
chain again on how well his 'TQQQ' is doing.
Meantime...
Probably time to check these again; midday 22 Aug 22
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[YTD's were as of 19 May 2022]
BCE (DIV 5.3%) +2.3% Aug --> -2.81%
BBY (DIV 3.5%) -23% Aug --> -20.43%
CVX (DIV 3.5%) +40% Aug --> +33.69%
ED (DIV 3.5%) +12% Aug --> +18.11%
ENB (DIV 6%) +16% Aug --> +13.26%
JNJ (DIV 2.4%) +3.3% Aug --> -0.32%
LMT (DIV 2.6%) +22% Aug --> +25.64%
NVS (DIV 2.5%) +1.8% Aug --> -2.74%
VTRS (DIV 4.5%) -14% Aug --> -22.55%
--------------------------------------
Total portfolio slice is still net positive 'YTD', by +6.1%, which contrasts ever
so slightly to the likes of Tommy's TQQQ being down by a mere -66%.
YTD is still positive, at +4.65% whereas TQQQ at $32.4 is in the red at -62% ... although
to be fair, that is a four point recovery since May. Of course, this +4.65% is before
dividends (roughly +2.5%), so one could say that it is effectively at +7% YTD.
Been way too long since reporting back on this...
BCE (DIV 5.3%) -14%
BBY (DIV 3.5%) -18%
CVX (DIV 3.5%) +44%
ED (DIV 3.5%) +13%
ENB (DIV 6%) +1%
JNJ (DIV 2.4%) +5%
LMT (DIV 2.6%) +39%
NVS (DIV 2.5%) +4%
VTRS (DIV 4.5%) -18%
Total portfolio slice is still net positive 'YTD', by +5.54% on Equities values...plus, of
course, the dividends spun off...roughly another +3.77%, so approx. +9% paper return.
+7.34% appreciation, plus the dividends, so roughly a 10%-11% YoY return.
Post by -hh
Apologies, forgot to include the comparison back to TQQQ for Tommy.
TQQQ (close yesterday) at $18.27 ... down -17% since Tommy's claimed purchase of it
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.sport.golf/c/ooGucHaSsFI/m/DpkT6VenAwAJ>
Tommy's silent, of course, as TQQQ's back under $22/share.
-hh
Well, let's look at how Lyin' Asshole's strategy played out.
I figured you'd crawl back as soon as you were 'safely' above water.
Post by Tommy
The Fed announced today a 0.25% rate hike and indicated they were close to the end of rate hikes.
"The Fed Raises Rates a Quarter Point and Signals More Ahead
America’s central bank has shifted into a new phase, raising rates
more slowly as inflation shows signs of moderating."
<https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/01/business/federal-reserve-interest-rates.html>
It includes a statement of "...“a couple more” rate increases..." too.
Post by Tommy
This is what I was anticipating, and the market responded accordingly.
TQQQ is now at 24.39, giving me about an 11% gain in less than 90 days - not bad.
So? Does that mean that you sold today?
So, you STATED that I had a 20% LOSS w/o asking me if I had sold!
"Tommy's silent, of course, as TQQQ's back under $22/share. "
Plus Tommy's silent on if he's bailed out of TQQQ with just his 11% gain (before STCG taxes).
Post by -hh
Post by Tommy
WHY don't you maintain the same standards????
Sorry, but I *exceed* the standards that you use, by actually substantiating statements.
Post by Tommy
Post by -hh
Post by Tommy
More importantly, the trajectory going forward is much more likely to be up than down.
Yes, that's what the Fed said: "...“a couple more” rate increases...".
Or did you mean to suggest something else?
Hey Lyin' Asshole, I'm going to give you the MOST IMPORTANT piece of advice yet: the Fed is near
the end of their rate increases and the market KNOWS that. Prices have ALREADY factored those
increases in and company profits have ABSORBED those increases, so the market is GREEN-LIGHTED
for an upside move. In other words, we have already seen the market BOTTOM. Is that clear enough
for your peanut-sized brain??????
So you've definitively called the bottom. Does this also mean that you're also saying that there will be
no recession in 2023 either?
Hmmm...
Post by -hh
Post by Tommy
Post by -hh
Post by Tommy
Meanwhile, the Lyin' Asshole has his thumb up his ass, not knowing what to do, but what else is new?
Golly, looks like Mr. Senile forgot that someone mentioned buying TQQQ in December
Hey LA, did you BUY TQQQ at that price? I DOUBT IT!!!!
<http://huntzinger.com/usenet/2022-TQQQ_redacted.gif>
Granted, it is redacted, but it is nevertheless sufficient to show a TQQQ purchase in December, at
a price whose first digit is a "1" instead of a "2". Go ahead and complain that this isn't good enough,
but do so by leading by example, by posting your own purchase order record of CVX to show what
the minimum disclosure resolution is that you want to see.
Still waiting.
Post by -hh
Post by Tommy
Post by -hh
[quote]
12/27/22 update: TQQQ low & close: $16.72 & $16.84
Looks like I can expect some paperwork in the mail from a certain limit order...
[/quote]
Hmmm...that suggests something north of +40%, doesn't it?
Not for you because you DIDN'T BUY IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Except for how any TQQQ purchase below $20.00 versus your $24.39 price point
would be at least a +22% gain.
If PP = $19.50 --> +25%
If PP = $19.00 --> +28%
If PP = $18.50 --> +32%
If PP = $18.00 --> +36%
If PP = $17.50 --> +39%
If PP = $17.00 --> +43%
If PP = $16.50 --> +48%
etc
Meantime, today's jobs report was too strong, so Markets are dropping because they know
that that's meat for the Federal Reserve to keep on increasing rates for longer = a Tommy oops!
Without nitpicking, ...
This would be the part where Tommy tries to ignore that his call that the Feds have ended making
rate hikes is looking quite incorrect at the end of last week. Plus Tommy's silent on if he's bailed
out of TQQQ with just a 11% gain (before STCG taxes).
... its good to see that you followed my advice FOR ONCE!
Nah, the TQQQ holdings are insignificant: they're worth the entertainment value of seeing you
squirm, because no matter what brag you try to make, you know someone else is doing better than you.
The Lyin' Asshole's string of lies is unbroken: WHEN did I say that the Fed had ENDED their rate hikes?
"....indicated they were close to the end of rate hikes."
That's in conjunction and context with how you've not denied having also called the bottom already, as well as
the elaborations on how a bottom occurs only a few months before the last rate hikes. Together, it points to
the Fed's March meeting as being the last rate hike as being what you meant - - at the time you said it.
Naturally, now that the Fed has clearly said otherwise, you're trying to change what you meant, particularly
particularly since the June and even May Fed meeting dates are already too far into 2023 for a reasonable
expectation of a Fed rate cut occurring 2023, because any sort of Fed rates hold duration would be negated.
Meantime, you're silent on if you already bailed out of TQQQ at its 11% gain point (before STCG taxes).
Ditto on you providing clarity on if you're also saying that there will be no recession in 2023 either.
As well as your mystery purchase record on CVX....oh, gosh on INTC too (purchased claimed prior to 11 Jan 22)
31 Dec 21: $48.94**
11 Jan 22: $52.46
11 Feb 23: $27.80
** - adjusted close; lowest daily non-adjusted low for 10/31/21 through 1/11/22 was $49.18
Post by Tommy
Post by Tommy
Hey Asshole, at least you ADMIT that I didn't say the Fed was DONE with rate hikes.
There are, at least, two more rate hikes in the works, PROBABLY (note I am not declaring this) 0.25% each.
Oh, so it’s “at least two”? That’s what’s now supposed to be “close”? This pushes out the first
meeting with no expected rate hike to mid-June, so where does that now place your bottom,
for which you’ve previously said “I am saying that the market is going thru a bottoming process
this quarter.”, which ends in just 51 days? Trying to copy my 1H comment?
So, now you are arguing about what "close" means. Sorry, but your sorry ass
doesn't deserve an education in that.
Nope, just illustrating how you’re trying to [use] a rubber ruler…again. And got caught…again.
Post by Tommy
Post by Tommy
We have ALREADY had our recession which you profoundly waffled about.
No, NBER is the authority on that, and they’ve not made that call. Sorry.
Sorry, but we WERE.
Nope. No matter what you want to believe, NBER has not made that determination.
Post by Tommy
Post by Tommy
I have ALREADY put you on notice that I AM NOT informing you of all my trades, …
Non sequitur, as you’ve been on notice yourself that you can’t make any claims on any
trades that you’ve not posted prior adequate notice. Thus, you’ll no longer be able to
cherry-pick from your entire portfolio to find a winner to claim…unless you choose to
disclose your entire portfolio, of course.
You are a PIECE OF WORK, Asshole! I owe you exactly NOTHING, which is exactly
what you DESERVE. You are a loser living a life of quiet desperation that looks at
diminishing those that have done better than you.
Golly, that reflection you see of yourself in the mirror really is quite ugly, isn’t it?
Post by Tommy
Post by Tommy
… just as YOU are not doing the same (and, now, declaring that you bought TQQQ
with a very suspicious trade confirmation).
Nah, you’ve already been told to provide an example of your own trades with the level
of detail you’re trying to complain about not getting from others…and have not done so.
Silence from Tommy.
Post by Tommy
Post by Tommy
Let's face it: you're jealous of my success and want to belittle it at every opportunity.
So be it - you are welcome to wallow in your proven mediocrity.
Sorry, but you do that all on your own and to yourself. No one here has any reason
to be in the least jealous of your little goldfish bowl’s echo chamber.
Yeah, right - coming from a loser.
Nah, the problem you have Tommy is that I’ve not tried to brag as much as you, so
you’re stuck in the “absence of evidence is not evidence of absence” logical trap.
Plus even when I’ve dropped clues, you’ve been unable and/or unwilling to
comprehend and/or acknowledge their significance. Your loss, not mine.
BTW, a retired friend sent me these two links recently; first is an illustration
whereas the second is a quasi-analysis…a bit overly broad, but nevertheless
< https://www.bogleheads.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=396981&sid=7b59bcd7747813e9852733284ece221f>
< https://bowtiedbull.substack.com/p/going-through-levels-of-wealth>
Quick reads both.
[quote]
Common tells of the Upper Middle Class belief system
* Absolute obsession with being seen as important...
* Insecurity...
* Passive aggressive behavior...Constant emphasis on how “high they are up the chain”.
* Obsession with “comp”....common for them to prod and try to figure out how much you make...
[/quote]
YAAAWWWWWNNNNNNNN...
“Cry harder”, Tommy.
Post by Tommy
Your attempt at psychoanalysis is PATHETIC, Lyin' Asshole.
[quote]
* Absolute obsession with being seen as important...
* Insecurity...
* Passive aggressive behavior...Constant emphasis on how “high they are up the chain”.
* Obsession with “comp”....common for them to prod and try to figure out how much you make...
[/quote]
Yes, it is.
Post by -hh
Shoot the messenger much?
Post by Tommy
The bottom line is the same: you just live a miserable life jealous of others
who have succeeded where you have failed.
YA instance of a (self-alleged) RSG “multimillionaire” being vain & bitter.
Hardly. I am neither vain nor bitter. On the contrary, I have tried to pass the secret of my success to you libtards and have been met with nothing but scorn and derision (which is why you dudes aren't successful).
Post by -hh
Naturally, Tommy has provided zero quantified metrics for what anyone is
supposed to be jealous of him for. Perhaps it will be stomach acidity level?
You continually obliviate on it - that is ample evidence of jealousness.
-hh
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Well, after yesterday's correction, seems about right to pull on Tommy's
chain again on how well his 'TQQQ' is doing.
Meantime...
Probably time to check these again; midday 22 Aug 22
Post by -hh
[YTD's were as of 19 May 2022]
BCE (DIV 5.3%) +2.3% Aug --> -2.81%
BBY (DIV 3.5%) -23% Aug --> -20.43%
CVX (DIV 3.5%) +40% Aug --> +33.69%
ED (DIV 3.5%) +12% Aug --> +18.11%
ENB (DIV 6%) +16% Aug --> +13.26%
JNJ (DIV 2.4%) +3.3% Aug --> -0.32%
LMT (DIV 2.6%) +22% Aug --> +25.64%
NVS (DIV 2.5%) +1.8% Aug --> -2.74%
VTRS (DIV 4.5%) -14% Aug --> -22.55%
--------------------------------------
Total portfolio slice is still net positive 'YTD', by +6.1%, which contrasts ever
so slightly to the likes of Tommy's TQQQ being down by a mere -66%.
YTD is still positive, at +4.65% whereas TQQQ at $32.4 is in the red at -62% ... although
to be fair, that is a four point recovery since May. Of course, this +4.65% is before
dividends (roughly +2.5%), so one could say that it is effectively at +7% YTD.
Been way too long since reporting back on this...
BCE (DIV 5.3%) -14%
BBY (DIV 3.5%) -18%
CVX (DIV 3.5%) +44%
ED (DIV 3.5%) +13%
ENB (DIV 6%) +1%
JNJ (DIV 2.4%) +5%
LMT (DIV 2.6%) +39%
NVS (DIV 2.5%) +4%
VTRS (DIV 4.5%) -18%
Total portfolio slice is still net positive 'YTD', by +5.54% on Equities values...plus, of
course, the dividends spun off...roughly another +3.77%, so approx. +9% paper return.
+7.34% appreciation, plus the dividends, so roughly a 10%-11% YoY return.
Post by -hh
Apologies, forgot to include the comparison back to TQQQ for Tommy.
TQQQ (close yesterday) at $18.27 ... down -17% since Tommy's claimed purchase of it
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.sport.golf/c/ooGucHaSsFI/m/DpkT6VenAwAJ>
Tommy's silent, of course, as TQQQ's back under $22/share.
-hh
Well, let's look at how Lyin' Asshole's strategy played out.
I figured you'd crawl back as soon as you were 'safely' above water.
Post by Tommy
The Fed announced today a 0.25% rate hike and indicated they were close to the end of rate hikes.
"The Fed Raises Rates a Quarter Point and Signals More Ahead
America’s central bank has shifted into a new phase, raising rates
more slowly as inflation shows signs of moderating."
<https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/01/business/federal-reserve-interest-rates.html>
It includes a statement of "...“a couple more” rate increases..." too.
Post by Tommy
This is what I was anticipating, and the market responded accordingly.
TQQQ is now at 24.39, giving me about an 11% gain in less than 90 days - not bad.
So? Does that mean that you sold today?
So, you STATED that I had a 20% LOSS w/o asking me if I had sold!
"Tommy's silent, of course, as TQQQ's back under $22/share. "
Plus Tommy's silent on if he's bailed out of TQQQ with just his 11% gain (before STCG taxes).
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WHY don't you maintain the same standards????
Sorry, but I *exceed* the standards that you use, by actually substantiating statements.
Post by Tommy
Post by -hh
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More importantly, the trajectory going forward is much more likely to be up than down.
Yes, that's what the Fed said: "...“a couple more” rate increases...".
Or did you mean to suggest something else?
Hey Lyin' Asshole, I'm going to give you the MOST IMPORTANT piece of advice yet: the Fed is near
the end of their rate increases and the market KNOWS that. Prices have ALREADY factored those
increases in and company profits have ABSORBED those increases, so the market is GREEN-LIGHTED
for an upside move. In other words, we have already seen the market BOTTOM. Is that clear enough
for your peanut-sized brain??????
So you've definitively called the bottom. Does this also mean that you're also saying that there will be
no recession in 2023 either?
Hmmm...
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Meanwhile, the Lyin' Asshole has his thumb up his ass, not knowing what to do, but what else is new?
Golly, looks like Mr. Senile forgot that someone mentioned buying TQQQ in December
Hey LA, did you BUY TQQQ at that price? I DOUBT IT!!!!
<http://huntzinger.com/usenet/2022-TQQQ_redacted.gif>
Granted, it is redacted, but it is nevertheless sufficient to show a TQQQ purchase in December, at
a price whose first digit is a "1" instead of a "2". Go ahead and complain that this isn't good enough,
but do so by leading by example, by posting your own purchase order record of CVX to show what
the minimum disclosure resolution is that you want to see.
Still waiting.
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Post by -hh
[quote]
12/27/22 update: TQQQ low & close: $16.72 & $16.84
Looks like I can expect some paperwork in the mail from a certain limit order...
[/quote]
Hmmm...that suggests something north of +40%, doesn't it?
Not for you because you DIDN'T BUY IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Except for how any TQQQ purchase below $20.00 versus your $24.39 price point
would be at least a +22% gain.
If PP = $19.50 --> +25%
If PP = $19.00 --> +28%
If PP = $18.50 --> +32%
If PP = $18.00 --> +36%
If PP = $17.50 --> +39%
If PP = $17.00 --> +43%
If PP = $16.50 --> +48%
etc
Meantime, today's jobs report was too strong, so Markets are dropping because they know
that that's meat for the Federal Reserve to keep on increasing rates for longer = a Tommy oops!
Without nitpicking, ...
This would be the part where Tommy tries to ignore that his call that the Feds have ended making
rate hikes is looking quite incorrect at the end of last week. Plus Tommy's silent on if he's bailed
out of TQQQ with just a 11% gain (before STCG taxes).
... its good to see that you followed my advice FOR ONCE!
Nah, the TQQQ holdings are insignificant: they're worth the entertainment value of seeing you
squirm, because no matter what brag you try to make, you know someone else is doing better than you.
The Lyin' Asshole's string of lies is unbroken: WHEN did I say that the Fed had ENDED their rate hikes?
"....indicated they were close to the end of rate hikes."
That's in conjunction and context with how you've not denied having also called the bottom already, as well as
the elaborations on how a bottom occurs only a few months before the last rate hikes. Together, it points to
the Fed's March meeting as being the last rate hike as being what you meant - - at the time you said it.
Naturally, now that the Fed has clearly said otherwise, you're trying to change what you meant, particularly
particularly since the June and even May Fed meeting dates are already too far into 2023 for a reasonable
expectation of a Fed rate cut occurring 2023, because any sort of Fed rates hold duration would be negated.
Meantime, you're silent on if you already bailed out of TQQQ at its 11% gain point (before STCG taxes).
Ditto on you providing clarity on if you're also saying that there will be no recession in 2023 either.
As well as your mystery purchase record on CVX....oh, gosh on INTC too (purchased claimed prior to 11 Jan 22)
31 Dec 21: $48.94**
11 Jan 22: $52.46
11 Feb 23: $27.80
** - adjusted close; lowest daily non-adjusted low for 10/31/21 through 1/11/22 was $49.18
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Hey Asshole, at least you ADMIT that I didn't say the Fed was DONE with rate hikes.
There are, at least, two more rate hikes in the works, PROBABLY (note I am not declaring this) 0.25% each.
Oh, so it’s “at least two”? That’s what’s now supposed to be “close”? This pushes out the first
meeting with no expected rate hike to mid-June, so where does that now place your bottom,
for which you’ve previously said “I am saying that the market is going thru a bottoming process
this quarter.”, which ends in just 51 days? Trying to copy my 1H comment?
So, now you are arguing about what "close" means. Sorry, but your sorry ass
doesn't deserve an education in that.
Nope, just illustrating how you’re trying to [use] a rubber ruler…again. And got caught…again.
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We have ALREADY had our recession which you profoundly waffled about.
No, NBER is the authority on that, and they’ve not made that call. Sorry.
Sorry, but we WERE.
Nope. No matter what you want to believe, NBER has not made that determination.
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I have ALREADY put you on notice that I AM NOT informing you of all my trades, …
Non sequitur, as you’ve been on notice yourself that you can’t make any claims on any
trades that you’ve not posted prior adequate notice. Thus, you’ll no longer be able to
cherry-pick from your entire portfolio to find a winner to claim…unless you choose to
disclose your entire portfolio, of course.
You are a PIECE OF WORK, Asshole! I owe you exactly NOTHING, which is exactly
what you DESERVE. You are a loser living a life of quiet desperation that looks at
diminishing those that have done better than you.
Golly, that reflection you see of yourself in the mirror really is quite ugly, isn’t it?
Post by Tommy
Post by Tommy
… just as YOU are not doing the same (and, now, declaring that you bought TQQQ
with a very suspicious trade confirmation).
Nah, you’ve already been told to provide an example of your own trades with the level
of detail you’re trying to complain about not getting from others…and have not done so.
Silence from Tommy.
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Post by Tommy
Let's face it: you're jealous of my success and want to belittle it at every opportunity.
So be it - you are welcome to wallow in your proven mediocrity.
Sorry, but you do that all on your own and to yourself. No one here has any reason
to be in the least jealous of your little goldfish bowl’s echo chamber.
Yeah, right - coming from a loser.
Nah, the problem you have Tommy is that I’ve not tried to brag as much as you, so
you’re stuck in the “absence of evidence is not evidence of absence” logical trap.
Plus even when I’ve dropped clues, you’ve been unable and/or unwilling to
comprehend and/or acknowledge their significance. Your loss, not mine.
BTW, a retired friend sent me these two links recently; first is an illustration
whereas the second is a quasi-analysis…a bit overly broad, but nevertheless
< https://www.bogleheads.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=396981&sid=7b59bcd7747813e9852733284ece221f>
< https://bowtiedbull.substack.com/p/going-through-levels-of-wealth>
Quick reads both.
[quote]
Common tells of the Upper Middle Class belief system
* Absolute obsession with being seen as important...
* Insecurity...
* Passive aggressive behavior...Constant emphasis on how “high they are up the chain”.
* Obsession with “comp”....common for them to prod and try to figure out how much you make...
[/quote]
YAAAWWWWWNNNNNNNN...
“Cry harder”, Tommy.
Post by Tommy
Your attempt at psychoanalysis is PATHETIC, Lyin' Asshole.
[quote]
* Absolute obsession with being seen as important...
* Insecurity...
* Passive aggressive behavior...Constant emphasis on how “high they are up the chain”.
* Obsession with “comp”....common for them to prod and try to figure out how much you make...
[/quote]
Yes, it is.
Nope: <https://bowtiedbull.substack.com/p/going-through-levels-of-wealth>
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Post by -hh
Shoot the messenger much?
Post by Tommy
The bottom line is the same: you just live a miserable life jealous of others
who have succeeded where you have failed.
YA instance of a (self-alleged) RSG “multimillionaire” being vain & bitter.
Hardly. I am neither vain nor bitter.
"...he vainly whined, so bitterly that his flecks of spittle tarnished the basement's linoleum floor." /s
Post by Tommy
On the contrary, I have tried to pass the secret of my success to you libtards and have
been met with nothing but scorn and derision (which is why you dudes aren't successful).
Incorrect: your so-called 'secrets' weren't secrets at all, nor even about how to be successful
in business. They were just a couple of already-known strategies for personal income taxes.

FYI, it is hard to honestly claim that the disinclination was scornful/derisive when it was explained
as due to individual circumstances (e.g. insufficient age for RMDs, employer benefits) which was
what made them de-optimal strategies to be employed at present.

Perhaps what you're thinking of as derision was in how it was noted that you had exaggerated
on your claimed magnitude of savings? Or how your misrepresenting a mere two tips as "many"?

Nope. Attention to Detail is a time-tested attribute for success in life & business: try it sometime.
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Post by -hh
Naturally, Tommy has provided zero quantified metrics for what anyone is
supposed to be jealous of him for. Perhaps it will be stomach acidity level?
You continually obliviate on it - that is ample evidence of jealousness.
Nah, it has merely become sport to remind you of your "emperor has no clothes" personal failure.

Because no one forced you to make your 'multimillionaire' claim, yet you did so & repeated that
many times. Your attempt to rub that in the face of others has backfired on you because you've
not ever substantiated your allegation, which is why it, like you, rings empty and hollow.


-hh
Tommy
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Well, after yesterday's correction, seems about right to pull on Tommy's
chain again on how well his 'TQQQ' is doing.
Meantime...
Probably time to check these again; midday 22 Aug 22
Post by -hh
[YTD's were as of 19 May 2022]
BCE (DIV 5.3%) +2.3% Aug --> -2.81%
BBY (DIV 3.5%) -23% Aug --> -20.43%
CVX (DIV 3.5%) +40% Aug --> +33.69%
ED (DIV 3.5%) +12% Aug --> +18.11%
ENB (DIV 6%) +16% Aug --> +13.26%
JNJ (DIV 2.4%) +3.3% Aug --> -0.32%
LMT (DIV 2.6%) +22% Aug --> +25.64%
NVS (DIV 2.5%) +1.8% Aug --> -2.74%
VTRS (DIV 4.5%) -14% Aug --> -22.55%
--------------------------------------
Total portfolio slice is still net positive 'YTD', by +6.1%, which contrasts ever
so slightly to the likes of Tommy's TQQQ being down by a mere -66%.
YTD is still positive, at +4.65% whereas TQQQ at $32.4 is in the red at -62% ... although
to be fair, that is a four point recovery since May. Of course, this +4.65% is before
dividends (roughly +2.5%), so one could say that it is effectively at +7% YTD.
Been way too long since reporting back on this...
BCE (DIV 5.3%) -14%
BBY (DIV 3.5%) -18%
CVX (DIV 3.5%) +44%
ED (DIV 3.5%) +13%
ENB (DIV 6%) +1%
JNJ (DIV 2.4%) +5%
LMT (DIV 2.6%) +39%
NVS (DIV 2.5%) +4%
VTRS (DIV 4.5%) -18%
Total portfolio slice is still net positive 'YTD', by +5.54% on Equities values...plus, of
course, the dividends spun off...roughly another +3.77%, so approx. +9% paper return.
+7.34% appreciation, plus the dividends, so roughly a 10%-11% YoY return.
Post by -hh
Apologies, forgot to include the comparison back to TQQQ for Tommy.
TQQQ (close yesterday) at $18.27 ... down -17% since Tommy's claimed purchase of it
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.sport.golf/c/ooGucHaSsFI/m/DpkT6VenAwAJ>
Tommy's silent, of course, as TQQQ's back under $22/share.
-hh
Well, let's look at how Lyin' Asshole's strategy played out.
I figured you'd crawl back as soon as you were 'safely' above water.
Post by Tommy
The Fed announced today a 0.25% rate hike and indicated they were close to the end of rate hikes.
"The Fed Raises Rates a Quarter Point and Signals More Ahead
America’s central bank has shifted into a new phase, raising rates
more slowly as inflation shows signs of moderating."
<https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/01/business/federal-reserve-interest-rates.html>
It includes a statement of "...“a couple more” rate increases..." too.
Post by Tommy
This is what I was anticipating, and the market responded accordingly.
TQQQ is now at 24.39, giving me about an 11% gain in less than 90 days - not bad.
So? Does that mean that you sold today?
So, you STATED that I had a 20% LOSS w/o asking me if I had sold!
"Tommy's silent, of course, as TQQQ's back under $22/share. "
Plus Tommy's silent on if he's bailed out of TQQQ with just his 11% gain (before STCG taxes).
Post by -hh
Post by Tommy
WHY don't you maintain the same standards????
Sorry, but I *exceed* the standards that you use, by actually substantiating statements.
Post by Tommy
Post by -hh
Post by Tommy
More importantly, the trajectory going forward is much more likely to be up than down.
Yes, that's what the Fed said: "...“a couple more” rate increases...".
Or did you mean to suggest something else?
Hey Lyin' Asshole, I'm going to give you the MOST IMPORTANT piece of advice yet: the Fed is near
the end of their rate increases and the market KNOWS that. Prices have ALREADY factored those
increases in and company profits have ABSORBED those increases, so the market is GREEN-LIGHTED
for an upside move. In other words, we have already seen the market BOTTOM. Is that clear enough
for your peanut-sized brain??????
So you've definitively called the bottom. Does this also mean that you're also saying that there will be
no recession in 2023 either?
Hmmm...
Post by -hh
Post by Tommy
Post by -hh
Post by Tommy
Meanwhile, the Lyin' Asshole has his thumb up his ass, not knowing what to do, but what else is new?
Golly, looks like Mr. Senile forgot that someone mentioned buying TQQQ in December
Hey LA, did you BUY TQQQ at that price? I DOUBT IT!!!!
<http://huntzinger.com/usenet/2022-TQQQ_redacted.gif>
Granted, it is redacted, but it is nevertheless sufficient to show a TQQQ purchase in December, at
a price whose first digit is a "1" instead of a "2". Go ahead and complain that this isn't good enough,
but do so by leading by example, by posting your own purchase order record of CVX to show what
the minimum disclosure resolution is that you want to see.
Still waiting.
Post by -hh
Post by Tommy
Post by -hh
[quote]
12/27/22 update: TQQQ low & close: $16.72 & $16.84
Looks like I can expect some paperwork in the mail from a certain limit order...
[/quote]
Hmmm...that suggests something north of +40%, doesn't it?
Not for you because you DIDN'T BUY IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Except for how any TQQQ purchase below $20.00 versus your $24.39 price point
would be at least a +22% gain.
If PP = $19.50 --> +25%
If PP = $19.00 --> +28%
If PP = $18.50 --> +32%
If PP = $18.00 --> +36%
If PP = $17.50 --> +39%
If PP = $17.00 --> +43%
If PP = $16.50 --> +48%
etc
Meantime, today's jobs report was too strong, so Markets are dropping because they know
that that's meat for the Federal Reserve to keep on increasing rates for longer = a Tommy oops!
Without nitpicking, ...
This would be the part where Tommy tries to ignore that his call that the Feds have ended making
rate hikes is looking quite incorrect at the end of last week. Plus Tommy's silent on if he's bailed
out of TQQQ with just a 11% gain (before STCG taxes).
... its good to see that you followed my advice FOR ONCE!
Nah, the TQQQ holdings are insignificant: they're worth the entertainment value of seeing you
squirm, because no matter what brag you try to make, you know someone else is doing better than you.
The Lyin' Asshole's string of lies is unbroken: WHEN did I say that the Fed had ENDED their rate hikes?
"....indicated they were close to the end of rate hikes."
That's in conjunction and context with how you've not denied having also called the bottom already, as well as
the elaborations on how a bottom occurs only a few months before the last rate hikes. Together, it points to
the Fed's March meeting as being the last rate hike as being what you meant - - at the time you said it.
Naturally, now that the Fed has clearly said otherwise, you're trying to change what you meant, particularly
particularly since the June and even May Fed meeting dates are already too far into 2023 for a reasonable
expectation of a Fed rate cut occurring 2023, because any sort of Fed rates hold duration would be negated.
Meantime, you're silent on if you already bailed out of TQQQ at its 11% gain point (before STCG taxes).
Ditto on you providing clarity on if you're also saying that there will be no recession in 2023 either.
As well as your mystery purchase record on CVX....oh, gosh on INTC too (purchased claimed prior to 11 Jan 22)
31 Dec 21: $48.94**
11 Jan 22: $52.46
11 Feb 23: $27.80
** - adjusted close; lowest daily non-adjusted low for 10/31/21 through 1/11/22 was $49.18
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Hey Asshole, at least you ADMIT that I didn't say the Fed was DONE with rate hikes.
There are, at least, two more rate hikes in the works, PROBABLY (note I am not declaring this) 0.25% each.
Oh, so it’s “at least two”? That’s what’s now supposed to be “close”? This pushes out the first
meeting with no expected rate hike to mid-June, so where does that now place your bottom,
for which you’ve previously said “I am saying that the market is going thru a bottoming process
this quarter.”, which ends in just 51 days? Trying to copy my 1H comment?
So, now you are arguing about what "close" means. Sorry, but your sorry ass
doesn't deserve an education in that.
Nope, just illustrating how you’re trying to [use] a rubber ruler…again. And got caught…again.
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Post by Tommy
We have ALREADY had our recession which you profoundly waffled about.
No, NBER is the authority on that, and they’ve not made that call. Sorry.
Sorry, but we WERE.
Nope. No matter what you want to believe, NBER has not made that determination.
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Post by Tommy
I have ALREADY put you on notice that I AM NOT informing you of all my trades, …
Non sequitur, as you’ve been on notice yourself that you can’t make any claims on any
trades that you’ve not posted prior adequate notice. Thus, you’ll no longer be able to
cherry-pick from your entire portfolio to find a winner to claim…unless you choose to
disclose your entire portfolio, of course.
You are a PIECE OF WORK, Asshole! I owe you exactly NOTHING, which is exactly
what you DESERVE. You are a loser living a life of quiet desperation that looks at
diminishing those that have done better than you.
Golly, that reflection you see of yourself in the mirror really is quite ugly, isn’t it?
Post by Tommy
Post by Tommy
… just as YOU are not doing the same (and, now, declaring that you bought TQQQ
with a very suspicious trade confirmation).
Nah, you’ve already been told to provide an example of your own trades with the level
of detail you’re trying to complain about not getting from others…and have not done so.
Silence from Tommy.
Post by Tommy
Post by Tommy
Let's face it: you're jealous of my success and want to belittle it at every opportunity.
So be it - you are welcome to wallow in your proven mediocrity.
Sorry, but you do that all on your own and to yourself. No one here has any reason
to be in the least jealous of your little goldfish bowl’s echo chamber.
Yeah, right - coming from a loser.
Nah, the problem you have Tommy is that I’ve not tried to brag as much as you, so
you’re stuck in the “absence of evidence is not evidence of absence” logical trap.
Plus even when I’ve dropped clues, you’ve been unable and/or unwilling to
comprehend and/or acknowledge their significance. Your loss, not mine.
BTW, a retired friend sent me these two links recently; first is an illustration
whereas the second is a quasi-analysis…a bit overly broad, but nevertheless
< https://www.bogleheads.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=396981&sid=7b59bcd7747813e9852733284ece221f>
< https://bowtiedbull.substack.com/p/going-through-levels-of-wealth>
Quick reads both.
[quote]
Common tells of the Upper Middle Class belief system
* Absolute obsession with being seen as important...
* Insecurity...
* Passive aggressive behavior...Constant emphasis on how “high they are up the chain”.
* Obsession with “comp”....common for them to prod and try to figure out how much you make...
[/quote]
YAAAWWWWWNNNNNNNN...
“Cry harder”, Tommy.
Post by Tommy
Your attempt at psychoanalysis is PATHETIC, Lyin' Asshole.
[quote]
* Absolute obsession with being seen as important...
* Insecurity...
* Passive aggressive behavior...Constant emphasis on how “high they are up the chain”.
* Obsession with “comp”....common for them to prod and try to figure out how much you make...
[/quote]
Yes, it is.
Nope: <https://bowtiedbull.substack.com/p/going-through-levels-of-wealth>
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Post by -hh
Shoot the messenger much?
Post by Tommy
The bottom line is the same: you just live a miserable life jealous of others
who have succeeded where you have failed.
YA instance of a (self-alleged) RSG “multimillionaire” being vain & bitter.
Hardly. I am neither vain nor bitter.
"...he vainly whined, so bitterly that his flecks of spittle tarnished the basement's linoleum floor." /s
Post by Tommy
On the contrary, I have tried to pass the secret of my success to you libtards and have
been met with nothing but scorn and derision (which is why you dudes aren't successful).
Incorrect: your so-called 'secrets' weren't secrets at all, nor even about how to be successful
in business. They were just a couple of already-known strategies for personal income taxes.
FYI, it is hard to honestly claim that the disinclination was scornful/derisive when it was explained
as due to individual circumstances (e.g. insufficient age for RMDs, employer benefits) which was
what made them de-optimal strategies to be employed at present.
Perhaps what you're thinking of as derision was in how it was noted that you had exaggerated
on your claimed magnitude of savings? Or how your misrepresenting a mere two tips as "many"?
Nope. Attention to Detail is a time-tested attribute for success in life & business: try it sometime.
Post by Tommy
Post by -hh
Naturally, Tommy has provided zero quantified metrics for what anyone is
supposed to be jealous of him for. Perhaps it will be stomach acidity level?
You continually obliviate on it - that is ample evidence of jealousness.
Nah, it has merely become sport to remind you of your "emperor has no clothes" personal failure.
Because no one forced you to make your 'multimillionaire' claim, yet you did so & repeated that
many times. Your attempt to rub that in the face of others has backfired on you because you've
not ever substantiated your allegation, which is why it, like you, rings empty and hollow.
-hh
Hey Lyin' Asshole, you present a PHONY E-Trade transaction and you QUESTION my veracity??? Go back to the drawing board, bozo.
-hh
2023-02-17 11:24:42 UTC
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Well, after yesterday's correction, seems about right to pull on Tommy's
chain again on how well his 'TQQQ' is doing.
Meantime...
Probably time to check these again; midday 22 Aug 22
Post by -hh
[YTD's were as of 19 May 2022]
BCE (DIV 5.3%) +2.3% Aug --> -2.81%
BBY (DIV 3.5%) -23% Aug --> -20.43%
CVX (DIV 3.5%) +40% Aug --> +33.69%
ED (DIV 3.5%) +12% Aug --> +18.11%
ENB (DIV 6%) +16% Aug --> +13.26%
JNJ (DIV 2.4%) +3.3% Aug --> -0.32%
LMT (DIV 2.6%) +22% Aug --> +25.64%
NVS (DIV 2.5%) +1.8% Aug --> -2.74%
VTRS (DIV 4.5%) -14% Aug --> -22.55%
--------------------------------------
Total portfolio slice is still net positive 'YTD', by +6.1%, which contrasts ever
so slightly to the likes of Tommy's TQQQ being down by a mere -66%.
YTD is still positive, at +4.65% whereas TQQQ at $32.4 is in the red at -62% ... although
to be fair, that is a four point recovery since May. Of course, this +4.65% is before
dividends (roughly +2.5%), so one could say that it is effectively at +7% YTD.
Been way too long since reporting back on this...
BCE (DIV 5.3%) -14%
BBY (DIV 3.5%) -18%
CVX (DIV 3.5%) +44%
ED (DIV 3.5%) +13%
ENB (DIV 6%) +1%
JNJ (DIV 2.4%) +5%
LMT (DIV 2.6%) +39%
NVS (DIV 2.5%) +4%
VTRS (DIV 4.5%) -18%
Total portfolio slice is still net positive 'YTD', by +5.54% on Equities values...plus, of
course, the dividends spun off...roughly another +3.77%, so approx. +9% paper return.
+7.34% appreciation, plus the dividends, so roughly a 10%-11% YoY return.
Post by -hh
Apologies, forgot to include the comparison back to TQQQ for Tommy.
TQQQ (close yesterday) at $18.27 ... down -17% since Tommy's claimed purchase of it
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.sport.golf/c/ooGucHaSsFI/m/DpkT6VenAwAJ>
Tommy's silent, of course, as TQQQ's back under $22/share.
-hh
Well, let's look at how Lyin' Asshole's strategy played out.
I figured you'd crawl back as soon as you were 'safely' above water.
Post by Tommy
The Fed announced today a 0.25% rate hike and indicated they were close to the end of rate hikes.
"The Fed Raises Rates a Quarter Point and Signals More Ahead
America’s central bank has shifted into a new phase, raising rates
more slowly as inflation shows signs of moderating."
<https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/01/business/federal-reserve-interest-rates.html>
It includes a statement of "...“a couple more” rate increases..." too.
Post by Tommy
This is what I was anticipating, and the market responded accordingly.
TQQQ is now at 24.39, giving me about an 11% gain in less than 90 days - not bad.
So? Does that mean that you sold today?
So, you STATED that I had a 20% LOSS w/o asking me if I had sold!
"Tommy's silent, of course, as TQQQ's back under $22/share. "
Plus Tommy's silent on if he's bailed out of TQQQ with just his 11% gain (before STCG taxes).
Post by -hh
Post by Tommy
WHY don't you maintain the same standards????
Sorry, but I *exceed* the standards that you use, by actually substantiating statements.
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More importantly, the trajectory going forward is much more likely to be up than down.
Yes, that's what the Fed said: "...“a couple more” rate increases...".
Or did you mean to suggest something else?
Hey Lyin' Asshole, I'm going to give you the MOST IMPORTANT piece of advice yet: the Fed is near
the end of their rate increases and the market KNOWS that. Prices have ALREADY factored those
increases in and company profits have ABSORBED those increases, so the market is GREEN-LIGHTED
for an upside move. In other words, we have already seen the market BOTTOM. Is that clear enough
for your peanut-sized brain??????
So you've definitively called the bottom. Does this also mean that you're also saying that there will be
no recession in 2023 either?
Hmmm...
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Meanwhile, the Lyin' Asshole has his thumb up his ass, not knowing what to do, but what else is new?
Golly, looks like Mr. Senile forgot that someone mentioned buying TQQQ in December
Hey LA, did you BUY TQQQ at that price? I DOUBT IT!!!!
<http://huntzinger.com/usenet/2022-TQQQ_redacted.gif>
Granted, it is redacted, but it is nevertheless sufficient to show a TQQQ purchase in December, at
a price whose first digit is a "1" instead of a "2". Go ahead and complain that this isn't good enough,
but do so by leading by example, by posting your own purchase order record of CVX to show what
the minimum disclosure resolution is that you want to see.
Still waiting.
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[quote]
12/27/22 update: TQQQ low & close: $16.72 & $16.84
Looks like I can expect some paperwork in the mail from a certain limit order...
[/quote]
Hmmm...that suggests something north of +40%, doesn't it?
Not for you because you DIDN'T BUY IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Except for how any TQQQ purchase below $20.00 versus your $24.39 price point
would be at least a +22% gain.
If PP = $19.50 --> +25%
If PP = $19.00 --> +28%
If PP = $18.50 --> +32%
If PP = $18.00 --> +36%
If PP = $17.50 --> +39%
If PP = $17.00 --> +43%
If PP = $16.50 --> +48%
etc
Meantime, today's jobs report was too strong, so Markets are dropping because they know
that that's meat for the Federal Reserve to keep on increasing rates for longer = a Tommy oops!
Without nitpicking, ...
This would be the part where Tommy tries to ignore that his call that the Feds have ended making
rate hikes is looking quite incorrect at the end of last week. Plus Tommy's silent on if he's bailed
out of TQQQ with just a 11% gain (before STCG taxes).
... its good to see that you followed my advice FOR ONCE!
Nah, the TQQQ holdings are insignificant: they're worth the entertainment value of seeing you
squirm, because no matter what brag you try to make, you know someone else is doing better than you.
The Lyin' Asshole's string of lies is unbroken: WHEN did I say that the Fed had ENDED their rate hikes?
"....indicated they were close to the end of rate hikes."
That's in conjunction and context with how you've not denied having also called the bottom already, as well as
the elaborations on how a bottom occurs only a few months before the last rate hikes. Together, it points to
the Fed's March meeting as being the last rate hike as being what you meant - - at the time you said it.
Naturally, now that the Fed has clearly said otherwise, you're trying to change what you meant, particularly
particularly since the June and even May Fed meeting dates are already too far into 2023 for a reasonable
expectation of a Fed rate cut occurring 2023, because any sort of Fed rates hold duration would be negated.
Meantime, you're silent on if you already bailed out of TQQQ at its 11% gain point (before STCG taxes).
Ditto on you providing clarity on if you're also saying that there will be no recession in 2023 either.
As well as your mystery purchase record on CVX....oh, gosh on INTC too (purchased claimed prior to 11 Jan 22)
31 Dec 21: $48.94**
11 Jan 22: $52.46
11 Feb 23: $27.80
** - adjusted close; lowest daily non-adjusted low for 10/31/21 through 1/11/22 was $49.18
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Hey Asshole, at least you ADMIT that I didn't say the Fed was DONE with rate hikes.
There are, at least, two more rate hikes in the works, PROBABLY (note I am not declaring this) 0.25% each.
Oh, so it’s “at least two”? That’s what’s now supposed to be “close”? This pushes out the first
meeting with no expected rate hike to mid-June, so where does that now place your bottom,
for which you’ve previously said “I am saying that the market is going thru a bottoming process
this quarter.”, which ends in just 51 days? Trying to copy my 1H comment?
So, now you are arguing about what "close" means. Sorry, but your sorry ass
doesn't deserve an education in that.
Nope, just illustrating how you’re trying to [use] a rubber ruler…again. And got caught…again.
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We have ALREADY had our recession which you profoundly waffled about.
No, NBER is the authority on that, and they’ve not made that call. Sorry.
Sorry, but we WERE.
Nope. No matter what you want to believe, NBER has not made that determination.
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I have ALREADY put you on notice that I AM NOT informing you of all my trades, …
Non sequitur, as you’ve been on notice yourself that you can’t make any claims on any
trades that you’ve not posted prior adequate notice. Thus, you’ll no longer be able to
cherry-pick from your entire portfolio to find a winner to claim…unless you choose to
disclose your entire portfolio, of course.
You are a PIECE OF WORK, Asshole! I owe you exactly NOTHING, which is exactly
what you DESERVE. You are a loser living a life of quiet desperation that looks at
diminishing those that have done better than you.
Golly, that reflection you see of yourself in the mirror really is quite ugly, isn’t it?
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… just as YOU are not doing the same (and, now, declaring that you bought TQQQ
with a very suspicious trade confirmation).
Nah, you’ve already been told to provide an example of your own trades with the level
of detail you’re trying to complain about not getting from others…and have not done so.
Silence from Tommy.
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Post by Tommy
Let's face it: you're jealous of my success and want to belittle it at every opportunity.
So be it - you are welcome to wallow in your proven mediocrity.
Sorry, but you do that all on your own and to yourself. No one here has any reason
to be in the least jealous of your little goldfish bowl’s echo chamber.
Yeah, right - coming from a loser.
Nah, the problem you have Tommy is that I’ve not tried to brag as much as you, so
you’re stuck in the “absence of evidence is not evidence of absence” logical trap.
Plus even when I’ve dropped clues, you’ve been unable and/or unwilling to
comprehend and/or acknowledge their significance. Your loss, not mine.
BTW, a retired friend sent me these two links recently; first is an illustration
whereas the second is a quasi-analysis…a bit overly broad, but nevertheless
< https://www.bogleheads.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=396981&sid=7b59bcd7747813e9852733284ece221f>
< https://bowtiedbull.substack.com/p/going-through-levels-of-wealth>
Quick reads both.
[quote]
Common tells of the Upper Middle Class belief system
* Absolute obsession with being seen as important...
* Insecurity...
* Passive aggressive behavior...Constant emphasis on how “high they are up the chain”.
* Obsession with “comp”....common for them to prod and try to figure out how much you make...
[/quote]
YAAAWWWWWNNNNNNNN...
“Cry harder”, Tommy.
Post by Tommy
Your attempt at psychoanalysis is PATHETIC, Lyin' Asshole.
[quote]
* Absolute obsession with being seen as important...
* Insecurity...
* Passive aggressive behavior...Constant emphasis on how “high they are up the chain”.
* Obsession with “comp”....common for them to prod and try to figure out how much you make...
[/quote]
Yes, it is.
Nope: <https://bowtiedbull.substack.com/p/going-through-levels-of-wealth>
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Post by -hh
Shoot the messenger much?
Post by Tommy
The bottom line is the same: you just live a miserable life jealous of others
who have succeeded where you have failed.
YA instance of a (self-alleged) RSG “multimillionaire” being vain & bitter.
Hardly. I am neither vain nor bitter.
"...he vainly whined, so bitterly that his flecks of spittle tarnished the basement's linoleum floor." /s
Post by Tommy
On the contrary, I have tried to pass the secret of my success to you libtards and have
been met with nothing but scorn and derision (which is why you dudes aren't successful).
Incorrect: your so-called 'secrets' weren't secrets at all, nor even about how to be successful
in business. They were just a couple of already-known strategies for personal income taxes.
FYI, it is hard to honestly claim that the disinclination was scornful/derisive when it was explained
as due to individual circumstances (e.g. insufficient age for RMDs, employer benefits) which was
what made them de-optimal strategies to be employed at present.
Perhaps what you're thinking of as derision was in how it was noted that you had exaggerated
on your claimed magnitude of savings? Or how your misrepresenting a mere two tips as "many"?
Nope. Attention to Detail is a time-tested attribute for success in life & business: try it sometime.
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Post by -hh
Naturally, Tommy has provided zero quantified metrics for what anyone is
supposed to be jealous of him for. Perhaps it will be stomach acidity level?
You continually obliviate on it - that is ample evidence of jealousness.
Nah, it has merely become sport to remind you of your "emperor has no clothes" personal failure.
Because no one forced you to make your 'multimillionaire' claim, yet you did so & repeated that
many times. Your attempt to rub that in the face of others has backfired on you because you've
not ever substantiated your allegation, which is why it, like you, rings empty and hollow.
Hey Lyin' Asshole, you present a PHONY E-Trade transaction and you QUESTION my veracity???
Go back to the drawing board, bozo.
Oh, look: Tommy is back to that old diversion attempt again, only this time he's tried to move from
claiming it was a "very suspicious trade confirmation" to now alleging it was a "PHONY" one.
No proof again, of course.

As Tommy's been told:
"Go ahead and complain that this isn't good enough, but do so by leading by example, by posting your own
purchase order record of CVX to show what the minimum disclosure resolution is that you want to see."

Instead of leading by example, Tommy vainly just posts bitter another "Grandpa Simpson" rant.

-hh
Tommy
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Well, after yesterday's correction, seems about right to pull on Tommy's
chain again on how well his 'TQQQ' is doing.
Meantime...
Probably time to check these again; midday 22 Aug 22
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[YTD's were as of 19 May 2022]
BCE (DIV 5.3%) +2.3% Aug --> -2.81%
BBY (DIV 3.5%) -23% Aug --> -20.43%
CVX (DIV 3.5%) +40% Aug --> +33.69%
ED (DIV 3.5%) +12% Aug --> +18.11%
ENB (DIV 6%) +16% Aug --> +13.26%
JNJ (DIV 2.4%) +3.3% Aug --> -0.32%
LMT (DIV 2.6%) +22% Aug --> +25.64%
NVS (DIV 2.5%) +1.8% Aug --> -2.74%
VTRS (DIV 4.5%) -14% Aug --> -22.55%
--------------------------------------
Total portfolio slice is still net positive 'YTD', by +6.1%, which contrasts ever
so slightly to the likes of Tommy's TQQQ being down by a mere -66%.
YTD is still positive, at +4.65% whereas TQQQ at $32.4 is in the red at -62% ... although
to be fair, that is a four point recovery since May. Of course, this +4.65% is before
dividends (roughly +2.5%), so one could say that it is effectively at +7% YTD.
Been way too long since reporting back on this...
BCE (DIV 5.3%) -14%
BBY (DIV 3.5%) -18%
CVX (DIV 3.5%) +44%
ED (DIV 3.5%) +13%
ENB (DIV 6%) +1%
JNJ (DIV 2.4%) +5%
LMT (DIV 2.6%) +39%
NVS (DIV 2.5%) +4%
VTRS (DIV 4.5%) -18%
Total portfolio slice is still net positive 'YTD', by +5.54% on Equities values...plus, of
course, the dividends spun off...roughly another +3.77%, so approx. +9% paper return.
+7.34% appreciation, plus the dividends, so roughly a 10%-11% YoY return.
Post by -hh
Apologies, forgot to include the comparison back to TQQQ for Tommy.
TQQQ (close yesterday) at $18.27 ... down -17% since Tommy's claimed purchase of it
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.sport.golf/c/ooGucHaSsFI/m/DpkT6VenAwAJ>
Tommy's silent, of course, as TQQQ's back under $22/share.
-hh
Well, let's look at how Lyin' Asshole's strategy played out.
I figured you'd crawl back as soon as you were 'safely' above water.
Post by Tommy
The Fed announced today a 0.25% rate hike and indicated they were close to the end of rate hikes.
"The Fed Raises Rates a Quarter Point and Signals More Ahead
America’s central bank has shifted into a new phase, raising rates
more slowly as inflation shows signs of moderating."
<https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/01/business/federal-reserve-interest-rates.html>
It includes a statement of "...“a couple more” rate increases..." too.
Post by Tommy
This is what I was anticipating, and the market responded accordingly.
TQQQ is now at 24.39, giving me about an 11% gain in less than 90 days - not bad.
So? Does that mean that you sold today?
So, you STATED that I had a 20% LOSS w/o asking me if I had sold!
"Tommy's silent, of course, as TQQQ's back under $22/share. "
Plus Tommy's silent on if he's bailed out of TQQQ with just his 11% gain (before STCG taxes).
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WHY don't you maintain the same standards????
Sorry, but I *exceed* the standards that you use, by actually substantiating statements.
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More importantly, the trajectory going forward is much more likely to be up than down.
Yes, that's what the Fed said: "...“a couple more” rate increases...".
Or did you mean to suggest something else?
Hey Lyin' Asshole, I'm going to give you the MOST IMPORTANT piece of advice yet: the Fed is near
the end of their rate increases and the market KNOWS that. Prices have ALREADY factored those
increases in and company profits have ABSORBED those increases, so the market is GREEN-LIGHTED
for an upside move. In other words, we have already seen the market BOTTOM. Is that clear enough
for your peanut-sized brain??????
So you've definitively called the bottom. Does this also mean that you're also saying that there will be
no recession in 2023 either?
Hmmm...
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Post by -hh
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Meanwhile, the Lyin' Asshole has his thumb up his ass, not knowing what to do, but what else is new?
Golly, looks like Mr. Senile forgot that someone mentioned buying TQQQ in December
Hey LA, did you BUY TQQQ at that price? I DOUBT IT!!!!
<http://huntzinger.com/usenet/2022-TQQQ_redacted.gif>
Granted, it is redacted, but it is nevertheless sufficient to show a TQQQ purchase in December, at
a price whose first digit is a "1" instead of a "2". Go ahead and complain that this isn't good enough,
but do so by leading by example, by posting your own purchase order record of CVX to show what
the minimum disclosure resolution is that you want to see.
Still waiting.
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Post by Tommy
Post by -hh
[quote]
12/27/22 update: TQQQ low & close: $16.72 & $16.84
Looks like I can expect some paperwork in the mail from a certain limit order...
[/quote]
Hmmm...that suggests something north of +40%, doesn't it?
Not for you because you DIDN'T BUY IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Except for how any TQQQ purchase below $20.00 versus your $24.39 price point
would be at least a +22% gain.
If PP = $19.50 --> +25%
If PP = $19.00 --> +28%
If PP = $18.50 --> +32%
If PP = $18.00 --> +36%
If PP = $17.50 --> +39%
If PP = $17.00 --> +43%
If PP = $16.50 --> +48%
etc
Meantime, today's jobs report was too strong, so Markets are dropping because they know
that that's meat for the Federal Reserve to keep on increasing rates for longer = a Tommy oops!
Without nitpicking, ...
This would be the part where Tommy tries to ignore that his call that the Feds have ended making
rate hikes is looking quite incorrect at the end of last week. Plus Tommy's silent on if he's bailed
out of TQQQ with just a 11% gain (before STCG taxes).
... its good to see that you followed my advice FOR ONCE!
Nah, the TQQQ holdings are insignificant: they're worth the entertainment value of seeing you
squirm, because no matter what brag you try to make, you know someone else is doing better than you.
The Lyin' Asshole's string of lies is unbroken: WHEN did I say that the Fed had ENDED their rate hikes?
"....indicated they were close to the end of rate hikes."
That's in conjunction and context with how you've not denied having also called the bottom already, as well as
the elaborations on how a bottom occurs only a few months before the last rate hikes. Together, it points to
the Fed's March meeting as being the last rate hike as being what you meant - - at the time you said it.
Naturally, now that the Fed has clearly said otherwise, you're trying to change what you meant, particularly
particularly since the June and even May Fed meeting dates are already too far into 2023 for a reasonable
expectation of a Fed rate cut occurring 2023, because any sort of Fed rates hold duration would be negated.
Meantime, you're silent on if you already bailed out of TQQQ at its 11% gain point (before STCG taxes).
Ditto on you providing clarity on if you're also saying that there will be no recession in 2023 either.
As well as your mystery purchase record on CVX....oh, gosh on INTC too (purchased claimed prior to 11 Jan 22)
31 Dec 21: $48.94**
11 Jan 22: $52.46
11 Feb 23: $27.80
** - adjusted close; lowest daily non-adjusted low for 10/31/21 through 1/11/22 was $49.18
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Hey Asshole, at least you ADMIT that I didn't say the Fed was DONE with rate hikes.
There are, at least, two more rate hikes in the works, PROBABLY (note I am not declaring this) 0.25% each.
Oh, so it’s “at least two”? That’s what’s now supposed to be “close”? This pushes out the first
meeting with no expected rate hike to mid-June, so where does that now place your bottom,
for which you’ve previously said “I am saying that the market is going thru a bottoming process
this quarter.”, which ends in just 51 days? Trying to copy my 1H comment?
So, now you are arguing about what "close" means. Sorry, but your sorry ass
doesn't deserve an education in that.
Nope, just illustrating how you’re trying to [use] a rubber ruler…again. And got caught…again.
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Post by Tommy
We have ALREADY had our recession which you profoundly waffled about.
No, NBER is the authority on that, and they’ve not made that call. Sorry.
Sorry, but we WERE.
Nope. No matter what you want to believe, NBER has not made that determination.
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Post by Tommy
I have ALREADY put you on notice that I AM NOT informing you of all my trades, …
Non sequitur, as you’ve been on notice yourself that you can’t make any claims on any
trades that you’ve not posted prior adequate notice. Thus, you’ll no longer be able to
cherry-pick from your entire portfolio to find a winner to claim…unless you choose to
disclose your entire portfolio, of course.
You are a PIECE OF WORK, Asshole! I owe you exactly NOTHING, which is exactly
what you DESERVE. You are a loser living a life of quiet desperation that looks at
diminishing those that have done better than you.
Golly, that reflection you see of yourself in the mirror really is quite ugly, isn’t it?
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Post by Tommy
… just as YOU are not doing the same (and, now, declaring that you bought TQQQ
with a very suspicious trade confirmation).
Nah, you’ve already been told to provide an example of your own trades with the level
of detail you’re trying to complain about not getting from others…and have not done so.
Silence from Tommy.
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Post by Tommy
Let's face it: you're jealous of my success and want to belittle it at every opportunity.
So be it - you are welcome to wallow in your proven mediocrity.
Sorry, but you do that all on your own and to yourself. No one here has any reason
to be in the least jealous of your little goldfish bowl’s echo chamber.
Yeah, right - coming from a loser.
Nah, the problem you have Tommy is that I’ve not tried to brag as much as you, so
you’re stuck in the “absence of evidence is not evidence of absence” logical trap.
Plus even when I’ve dropped clues, you’ve been unable and/or unwilling to
comprehend and/or acknowledge their significance. Your loss, not mine.
BTW, a retired friend sent me these two links recently; first is an illustration
whereas the second is a quasi-analysis…a bit overly broad, but nevertheless
< https://www.bogleheads.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=396981&sid=7b59bcd7747813e9852733284ece221f>
< https://bowtiedbull.substack.com/p/going-through-levels-of-wealth>
Quick reads both.
[quote]
Common tells of the Upper Middle Class belief system
* Absolute obsession with being seen as important...
* Insecurity...
* Passive aggressive behavior...Constant emphasis on how “high they are up the chain”.
* Obsession with “comp”....common for them to prod and try to figure out how much you make...
[/quote]
YAAAWWWWWNNNNNNNN...
“Cry harder”, Tommy.
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Your attempt at psychoanalysis is PATHETIC, Lyin' Asshole.
[quote]
* Absolute obsession with being seen as important...
* Insecurity...
* Passive aggressive behavior...Constant emphasis on how “high they are up the chain”.
* Obsession with “comp”....common for them to prod and try to figure out how much you make...
[/quote]
Yes, it is.
Nope: <https://bowtiedbull.substack.com/p/going-through-levels-of-wealth>
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Post by -hh
Shoot the messenger much?
Post by Tommy
The bottom line is the same: you just live a miserable life jealous of others
who have succeeded where you have failed.
YA instance of a (self-alleged) RSG “multimillionaire” being vain & bitter.
Hardly. I am neither vain nor bitter.
"...he vainly whined, so bitterly that his flecks of spittle tarnished the basement's linoleum floor." /s
Post by Tommy
On the contrary, I have tried to pass the secret of my success to you libtards and have
been met with nothing but scorn and derision (which is why you dudes aren't successful).
Incorrect: your so-called 'secrets' weren't secrets at all, nor even about how to be successful
in business. They were just a couple of already-known strategies for personal income taxes.
FYI, it is hard to honestly claim that the disinclination was scornful/derisive when it was explained
as due to individual circumstances (e.g. insufficient age for RMDs, employer benefits) which was
what made them de-optimal strategies to be employed at present.
Perhaps what you're thinking of as derision was in how it was noted that you had exaggerated
on your claimed magnitude of savings? Or how your misrepresenting a mere two tips as "many"?
Nope. Attention to Detail is a time-tested attribute for success in life & business: try it sometime.
Post by Tommy
Post by -hh
Naturally, Tommy has provided zero quantified metrics for what anyone is
supposed to be jealous of him for. Perhaps it will be stomach acidity level?
You continually obliviate on it - that is ample evidence of jealousness.
Nah, it has merely become sport to remind you of your "emperor has no clothes" personal failure.
Because no one forced you to make your 'multimillionaire' claim, yet you did so & repeated that
many times. Your attempt to rub that in the face of others has backfired on you because you've
not ever substantiated your allegation, which is why it, like you, rings empty and hollow.
Hey Lyin' Asshole, you present a PHONY E-Trade transaction and you QUESTION my veracity???
Go back to the drawing board, bozo.
Oh, look: Tommy is back to that old diversion attempt again, only this time he's tried to move from
claiming it was a "very suspicious trade confirmation" to now alleging it was a "PHONY" one.
No proof again, of course.
"Go ahead and complain that this isn't good enough, but do so by leading by example, by posting your own
purchase order record of CVX to show what the minimum disclosure resolution is that you want to see."
Instead of leading by example, Tommy vainly just posts bitter another "Grandpa Simpson" rant.
-hh
LOL! Hey Lyin' Asshole, your phony Etrade confirmation shows a price of ONE DOLLAR and NOTHING for the quantity. Now, are you claiming that is a REAL confirmation????
-hh
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Well, after yesterday's correction, seems about right to pull on Tommy's
chain again on how well his 'TQQQ' is doing.
Meantime...
Probably time to check these again; midday 22 Aug 22
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[YTD's were as of 19 May 2022]
BCE (DIV 5.3%) +2.3% Aug --> -2.81%
BBY (DIV 3.5%) -23% Aug --> -20.43%
CVX (DIV 3.5%) +40% Aug --> +33.69%
ED (DIV 3.5%) +12% Aug --> +18.11%
ENB (DIV 6%) +16% Aug --> +13.26%
JNJ (DIV 2.4%) +3.3% Aug --> -0.32%
LMT (DIV 2.6%) +22% Aug --> +25.64%
NVS (DIV 2.5%) +1.8% Aug --> -2.74%
VTRS (DIV 4.5%) -14% Aug --> -22.55%
--------------------------------------
Total portfolio slice is still net positive 'YTD', by +6.1%, which contrasts ever
so slightly to the likes of Tommy's TQQQ being down by a mere -66%.
YTD is still positive, at +4.65% whereas TQQQ at $32.4 is in the red at -62% ... although
to be fair, that is a four point recovery since May. Of course, this +4.65% is before
dividends (roughly +2.5%), so one could say that it is effectively at +7% YTD.
Been way too long since reporting back on this...
BCE (DIV 5.3%) -14%
BBY (DIV 3.5%) -18%
CVX (DIV 3.5%) +44%
ED (DIV 3.5%) +13%
ENB (DIV 6%) +1%
JNJ (DIV 2.4%) +5%
LMT (DIV 2.6%) +39%
NVS (DIV 2.5%) +4%
VTRS (DIV 4.5%) -18%
Total portfolio slice is still net positive 'YTD', by +5.54% on Equities values...plus, of
course, the dividends spun off...roughly another +3.77%, so approx. +9% paper return.
+7.34% appreciation, plus the dividends, so roughly a 10%-11% YoY return.
Post by -hh
Apologies, forgot to include the comparison back to TQQQ for Tommy.
TQQQ (close yesterday) at $18.27 ... down -17% since Tommy's claimed purchase of it
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.sport.golf/c/ooGucHaSsFI/m/DpkT6VenAwAJ>
Tommy's silent, of course, as TQQQ's back under $22/share.
-hh
Well, let's look at how Lyin' Asshole's strategy played out.
I figured you'd crawl back as soon as you were 'safely' above water.
Post by Tommy
The Fed announced today a 0.25% rate hike and indicated they were close to the end of rate hikes.
"The Fed Raises Rates a Quarter Point and Signals More Ahead
America’s central bank has shifted into a new phase, raising rates
more slowly as inflation shows signs of moderating."
<https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/01/business/federal-reserve-interest-rates.html>
It includes a statement of "...“a couple more” rate increases..." too.
Post by Tommy
This is what I was anticipating, and the market responded accordingly.
TQQQ is now at 24.39, giving me about an 11% gain in less than 90 days - not bad.
So? Does that mean that you sold today?
So, you STATED that I had a 20% LOSS w/o asking me if I had sold!
"Tommy's silent, of course, as TQQQ's back under $22/share. "
Plus Tommy's silent on if he's bailed out of TQQQ with just his 11% gain (before STCG taxes).
Post by -hh
Post by Tommy
WHY don't you maintain the same standards????
Sorry, but I *exceed* the standards that you use, by actually substantiating statements.
Post by Tommy
Post by -hh
Post by Tommy
More importantly, the trajectory going forward is much more likely to be up than down.
Yes, that's what the Fed said: "...“a couple more” rate increases...".
Or did you mean to suggest something else?
Hey Lyin' Asshole, I'm going to give you the MOST IMPORTANT piece of advice yet: the Fed is near
the end of their rate increases and the market KNOWS that. Prices have ALREADY factored those
increases in and company profits have ABSORBED those increases, so the market is GREEN-LIGHTED
for an upside move. In other words, we have already seen the market BOTTOM. Is that clear enough
for your peanut-sized brain??????
So you've definitively called the bottom. Does this also mean that you're also saying that there will be
no recession in 2023 either?
Hmmm...
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Post by Tommy
Post by -hh
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Meanwhile, the Lyin' Asshole has his thumb up his ass, not knowing what to do, but what else is new?
Golly, looks like Mr. Senile forgot that someone mentioned buying TQQQ in December
Hey LA, did you BUY TQQQ at that price? I DOUBT IT!!!!
<http://huntzinger.com/usenet/2022-TQQQ_redacted.gif>
Granted, it is redacted, but it is nevertheless sufficient to show a TQQQ purchase in December, at
a price whose first digit is a "1" instead of a "2". Go ahead and complain that this isn't good enough,
but do so by leading by example, by posting your own purchase order record of CVX to show what
the minimum disclosure resolution is that you want to see.
Still waiting.
Post by -hh
Post by Tommy
Post by -hh
[quote]
12/27/22 update: TQQQ low & close: $16.72 & $16.84
Looks like I can expect some paperwork in the mail from a certain limit order...
[/quote]
Hmmm...that suggests something north of +40%, doesn't it?
Not for you because you DIDN'T BUY IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Except for how any TQQQ purchase below $20.00 versus your $24.39 price point
would be at least a +22% gain.
If PP = $19.50 --> +25%
If PP = $19.00 --> +28%
If PP = $18.50 --> +32%
If PP = $18.00 --> +36%
If PP = $17.50 --> +39%
If PP = $17.00 --> +43%
If PP = $16.50 --> +48%
etc
Meantime, today's jobs report was too strong, so Markets are dropping because they know
that that's meat for the Federal Reserve to keep on increasing rates for longer = a Tommy oops!
Without nitpicking, ...
This would be the part where Tommy tries to ignore that his call that the Feds have ended making
rate hikes is looking quite incorrect at the end of last week. Plus Tommy's silent on if he's bailed
out of TQQQ with just a 11% gain (before STCG taxes).
... its good to see that you followed my advice FOR ONCE!
Nah, the TQQQ holdings are insignificant: they're worth the entertainment value of seeing you
squirm, because no matter what brag you try to make, you know someone else is doing better than you.
The Lyin' Asshole's string of lies is unbroken: WHEN did I say that the Fed had ENDED their rate hikes?
"....indicated they were close to the end of rate hikes."
That's in conjunction and context with how you've not denied having also called the bottom already, as well as
the elaborations on how a bottom occurs only a few months before the last rate hikes. Together, it points to
the Fed's March meeting as being the last rate hike as being what you meant - - at the time you said it.
Naturally, now that the Fed has clearly said otherwise, you're trying to change what you meant, particularly
particularly since the June and even May Fed meeting dates are already too far into 2023 for a reasonable
expectation of a Fed rate cut occurring 2023, because any sort of Fed rates hold duration would be negated.
Meantime, you're silent on if you already bailed out of TQQQ at its 11% gain point (before STCG taxes).
Ditto on you providing clarity on if you're also saying that there will be no recession in 2023 either.
As well as your mystery purchase record on CVX....oh, gosh on INTC too (purchased claimed prior to 11 Jan 22)
31 Dec 21: $48.94**
11 Jan 22: $52.46
11 Feb 23: $27.80
** - adjusted close; lowest daily non-adjusted low for 10/31/21 through 1/11/22 was $49.18
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Hey Asshole, at least you ADMIT that I didn't say the Fed was DONE with rate hikes.
There are, at least, two more rate hikes in the works, PROBABLY (note I am not declaring this) 0.25% each.
Oh, so it’s “at least two”? That’s what’s now supposed to be “close”? This pushes out the first
meeting with no expected rate hike to mid-June, so where does that now place your bottom,
for which you’ve previously said “I am saying that the market is going thru a bottoming process
this quarter.”, which ends in just 51 days? Trying to copy my 1H comment?
So, now you are arguing about what "close" means. Sorry, but your sorry ass
doesn't deserve an education in that.
Nope, just illustrating how you’re trying to [use] a rubber ruler…again. And got caught…again.
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Post by Tommy
We have ALREADY had our recession which you profoundly waffled about.
No, NBER is the authority on that, and they’ve not made that call. Sorry.
Sorry, but we WERE.
Nope. No matter what you want to believe, NBER has not made that determination.
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Post by Tommy
I have ALREADY put you on notice that I AM NOT informing you of all my trades, …
Non sequitur, as you’ve been on notice yourself that you can’t make any claims on any
trades that you’ve not posted prior adequate notice. Thus, you’ll no longer be able to
cherry-pick from your entire portfolio to find a winner to claim…unless you choose to
disclose your entire portfolio, of course.
You are a PIECE OF WORK, Asshole! I owe you exactly NOTHING, which is exactly
what you DESERVE. You are a loser living a life of quiet desperation that looks at
diminishing those that have done better than you.
Golly, that reflection you see of yourself in the mirror really is quite ugly, isn’t it?
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Post by Tommy
… just as YOU are not doing the same (and, now, declaring that you bought TQQQ
with a very suspicious trade confirmation).
Nah, you’ve already been told to provide an example of your own trades with the level
of detail you’re trying to complain about not getting from others…and have not done so.
Silence from Tommy.
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Post by Tommy
Let's face it: you're jealous of my success and want to belittle it at every opportunity.
So be it - you are welcome to wallow in your proven mediocrity.
Sorry, but you do that all on your own and to yourself. No one here has any reason
to be in the least jealous of your little goldfish bowl’s echo chamber.
Yeah, right - coming from a loser.
Nah, the problem you have Tommy is that I’ve not tried to brag as much as you, so
you’re stuck in the “absence of evidence is not evidence of absence” logical trap.
Plus even when I’ve dropped clues, you’ve been unable and/or unwilling to
comprehend and/or acknowledge their significance. Your loss, not mine.
BTW, a retired friend sent me these two links recently; first is an illustration
whereas the second is a quasi-analysis…a bit overly broad, but nevertheless
< https://www.bogleheads.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=396981&sid=7b59bcd7747813e9852733284ece221f>
< https://bowtiedbull.substack.com/p/going-through-levels-of-wealth>
Quick reads both.
[quote]
Common tells of the Upper Middle Class belief system
* Absolute obsession with being seen as important...
* Insecurity...
* Passive aggressive behavior...Constant emphasis on how “high they are up the chain”.
* Obsession with “comp”....common for them to prod and try to figure out how much you make...
[/quote]
YAAAWWWWWNNNNNNNN...
“Cry harder”, Tommy.
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Your attempt at psychoanalysis is PATHETIC, Lyin' Asshole.
[quote]
* Absolute obsession with being seen as important...
* Insecurity...
* Passive aggressive behavior...Constant emphasis on how “high they are up the chain”.
* Obsession with “comp”....common for them to prod and try to figure out how much you make...
[/quote]
Yes, it is.
Nope: <https://bowtiedbull.substack.com/p/going-through-levels-of-wealth>
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Post by -hh
Shoot the messenger much?
Post by Tommy
The bottom line is the same: you just live a miserable life jealous of others
who have succeeded where you have failed.
YA instance of a (self-alleged) RSG “multimillionaire” being vain & bitter.
Hardly. I am neither vain nor bitter.
"...he vainly whined, so bitterly that his flecks of spittle tarnished the basement's linoleum floor." /s
Post by Tommy
On the contrary, I have tried to pass the secret of my success to you libtards and have
been met with nothing but scorn and derision (which is why you dudes aren't successful).
Incorrect: your so-called 'secrets' weren't secrets at all, nor even about how to be successful
in business. They were just a couple of already-known strategies for personal income taxes.
FYI, it is hard to honestly claim that the disinclination was scornful/derisive when it was explained
as due to individual circumstances (e.g. insufficient age for RMDs, employer benefits) which was
what made them de-optimal strategies to be employed at present.
Perhaps what you're thinking of as derision was in how it was noted that you had exaggerated
on your claimed magnitude of savings? Or how your misrepresenting a mere two tips as "many"?
Nope. Attention to Detail is a time-tested attribute for success in life & business: try it sometime.
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Post by -hh
Naturally, Tommy has provided zero quantified metrics for what anyone is
supposed to be jealous of him for. Perhaps it will be stomach acidity level?
You continually obliviate on it - that is ample evidence of jealousness.
Nah, it has merely become sport to remind you of your "emperor has no clothes" personal failure.
Because no one forced you to make your 'multimillionaire' claim, yet you did so & repeated that
many times. Your attempt to rub that in the face of others has backfired on you because you've
not ever substantiated your allegation, which is why it, like you, rings empty and hollow.
Hey Lyin' Asshole, you present a PHONY E-Trade transaction and you QUESTION my veracity???
Go back to the drawing board, bozo.
Oh, look: Tommy is back to that old diversion attempt again, only this time he's tried to move from
claiming it was a "very suspicious trade confirmation" to now alleging it was a "PHONY" one.
No proof again, of course.
"Go ahead and complain that this isn't good enough, but do so by leading by example, by posting your own
purchase order record of CVX to show what the minimum disclosure resolution is that you want to see."
Instead of leading by example, Tommy vainly just posts bitter another "Grandpa Simpson" rant.
LOL! Hey Lyin' Asshole, your phony Etrade confirmation shows a price of ONE DOLLAR and NOTHING
for the quantity. Now, are you claiming that is a REAL confirmation????
And no account number either: you're just confused because the redaction of that information
was done as white on transparent, which your image viewer represented as white on white: try
opening the file in a better GIF browser/editor to better reveal where the redactions were made.

Or ask nicely what contrasting color you want it changed to .. perhaps "cowardly Tommy yellow streak"?


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Well, after yesterday's correction, seems about right to pull on Tommy's
chain again on how well his 'TQQQ' is doing.
Meantime...
Probably time to check these again; midday 22 Aug 22
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[YTD's were as of 19 May 2022]
BCE (DIV 5.3%) +2.3% Aug --> -2.81%
BBY (DIV 3.5%) -23% Aug --> -20.43%
CVX (DIV 3.5%) +40% Aug --> +33.69%
ED (DIV 3.5%) +12% Aug --> +18.11%
ENB (DIV 6%) +16% Aug --> +13.26%
JNJ (DIV 2.4%) +3.3% Aug --> -0.32%
LMT (DIV 2.6%) +22% Aug --> +25.64%
NVS (DIV 2.5%) +1.8% Aug --> -2.74%
VTRS (DIV 4.5%) -14% Aug --> -22.55%
--------------------------------------
Total portfolio slice is still net positive 'YTD', by +6.1%, which contrasts ever
so slightly to the likes of Tommy's TQQQ being down by a mere -66%.
YTD is still positive, at +4.65% whereas TQQQ at $32.4 is in the red at -62% ... although
to be fair, that is a four point recovery since May. Of course, this +4.65% is before
dividends (roughly +2.5%), so one could say that it is effectively at +7% YTD.
Been way too long since reporting back on this...
BCE (DIV 5.3%) -14%
BBY (DIV 3.5%) -18%
CVX (DIV 3.5%) +44%
ED (DIV 3.5%) +13%
ENB (DIV 6%) +1%
JNJ (DIV 2.4%) +5%
LMT (DIV 2.6%) +39%
NVS (DIV 2.5%) +4%
VTRS (DIV 4.5%) -18%
Total portfolio slice is still net positive 'YTD', by +5.54% on Equities values...plus, of
course, the dividends spun off...roughly another +3.77%, so approx. +9% paper return.
+7.34% appreciation, plus the dividends, so roughly a 10%-11% YoY return.
Post by -hh
Apologies, forgot to include the comparison back to TQQQ for Tommy.
TQQQ (close yesterday) at $18.27 ... down -17% since Tommy's claimed purchase of it
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.sport.golf/c/ooGucHaSsFI/m/DpkT6VenAwAJ>
Tommy's silent, of course, as TQQQ's back under $22/share.
-hh
Well, let's look at how Lyin' Asshole's strategy played out.
I figured you'd crawl back as soon as you were 'safely' above water.
Post by Tommy
The Fed announced today a 0.25% rate hike and indicated they were close to the end of rate hikes.
"The Fed Raises Rates a Quarter Point and Signals More Ahead
America’s central bank has shifted into a new phase, raising rates
more slowly as inflation shows signs of moderating."
<https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/01/business/federal-reserve-interest-rates.html>
It includes a statement of "...“a couple more” rate increases..." too.
Post by Tommy
This is what I was anticipating, and the market responded accordingly.
TQQQ is now at 24.39, giving me about an 11% gain in less than 90 days - not bad.
So? Does that mean that you sold today?
So, you STATED that I had a 20% LOSS w/o asking me if I had sold!
"Tommy's silent, of course, as TQQQ's back under $22/share. "
Plus Tommy's silent on if he's bailed out of TQQQ with just his 11% gain (before STCG taxes).
Post by -hh
Post by Tommy
WHY don't you maintain the same standards????
Sorry, but I *exceed* the standards that you use, by actually substantiating statements.
Post by Tommy
Post by -hh
Post by Tommy
More importantly, the trajectory going forward is much more likely to be up than down.
Yes, that's what the Fed said: "...“a couple more” rate increases...".
Or did you mean to suggest something else?
Hey Lyin' Asshole, I'm going to give you the MOST IMPORTANT piece of advice yet: the Fed is near
the end of their rate increases and the market KNOWS that. Prices have ALREADY factored those
increases in and company profits have ABSORBED those increases, so the market is GREEN-LIGHTED
for an upside move. In other words, we have already seen the market BOTTOM. Is that clear enough
for your peanut-sized brain??????
So you've definitively called the bottom. Does this also mean that you're also saying that there will be
no recession in 2023 either?
Hmmm...
Post by -hh
Post by Tommy
Post by -hh
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Meanwhile, the Lyin' Asshole has his thumb up his ass, not knowing what to do, but what else is new?
Golly, looks like Mr. Senile forgot that someone mentioned buying TQQQ in December
Hey LA, did you BUY TQQQ at that price? I DOUBT IT!!!!
<http://huntzinger.com/usenet/2022-TQQQ_redacted.gif>
Granted, it is redacted, but it is nevertheless sufficient to show a TQQQ purchase in December, at
a price whose first digit is a "1" instead of a "2". Go ahead and complain that this isn't good enough,
but do so by leading by example, by posting your own purchase order record of CVX to show what
the minimum disclosure resolution is that you want to see.
Still waiting.
Post by -hh
Post by Tommy
Post by -hh
[quote]
12/27/22 update: TQQQ low & close: $16.72 & $16.84
Looks like I can expect some paperwork in the mail from a certain limit order...
[/quote]
Hmmm...that suggests something north of +40%, doesn't it?
Not for you because you DIDN'T BUY IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Except for how any TQQQ purchase below $20.00 versus your $24.39 price point
would be at least a +22% gain.
If PP = $19.50 --> +25%
If PP = $19.00 --> +28%
If PP = $18.50 --> +32%
If PP = $18.00 --> +36%
If PP = $17.50 --> +39%
If PP = $17.00 --> +43%
If PP = $16.50 --> +48%
etc
Meantime, today's jobs report was too strong, so Markets are dropping because they know
that that's meat for the Federal Reserve to keep on increasing rates for longer = a Tommy oops!
Without nitpicking, ...
This would be the part where Tommy tries to ignore that his call that the Feds have ended making
rate hikes is looking quite incorrect at the end of last week. Plus Tommy's silent on if he's bailed
out of TQQQ with just a 11% gain (before STCG taxes).
... its good to see that you followed my advice FOR ONCE!
Nah, the TQQQ holdings are insignificant: they're worth the entertainment value of seeing you
squirm, because no matter what brag you try to make, you know someone else is doing better than you.
The Lyin' Asshole's string of lies is unbroken: WHEN did I say that the Fed had ENDED their rate hikes?
"....indicated they were close to the end of rate hikes."
That's in conjunction and context with how you've not denied having also called the bottom already, as well as
the elaborations on how a bottom occurs only a few months before the last rate hikes. Together, it points to
the Fed's March meeting as being the last rate hike as being what you meant - - at the time you said it.
Naturally, now that the Fed has clearly said otherwise, you're trying to change what you meant, particularly
particularly since the June and even May Fed meeting dates are already too far into 2023 for a reasonable
expectation of a Fed rate cut occurring 2023, because any sort of Fed rates hold duration would be negated.
Meantime, you're silent on if you already bailed out of TQQQ at its 11% gain point (before STCG taxes).
Ditto on you providing clarity on if you're also saying that there will be no recession in 2023 either.
As well as your mystery purchase record on CVX....oh, gosh on INTC too (purchased claimed prior to 11 Jan 22)
31 Dec 21: $48.94**
11 Jan 22: $52.46
11 Feb 23: $27.80
** - adjusted close; lowest daily non-adjusted low for 10/31/21 through 1/11/22 was $49.18
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Post by Tommy
Hey Asshole, at least you ADMIT that I didn't say the Fed was DONE with rate hikes.
There are, at least, two more rate hikes in the works, PROBABLY (note I am not declaring this) 0.25% each.
Oh, so it’s “at least two”? That’s what’s now supposed to be “close”? This pushes out the first
meeting with no expected rate hike to mid-June, so where does that now place your bottom,
for which you’ve previously said “I am saying that the market is going thru a bottoming process
this quarter.”, which ends in just 51 days? Trying to copy my 1H comment?
So, now you are arguing about what "close" means. Sorry, but your sorry ass
doesn't deserve an education in that.
Nope, just illustrating how you’re trying to [use] a rubber ruler…again. And got caught…again.
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Post by Tommy
We have ALREADY had our recession which you profoundly waffled about.
No, NBER is the authority on that, and they’ve not made that call. Sorry.
Sorry, but we WERE.
Nope. No matter what you want to believe, NBER has not made that determination.
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Post by Tommy
I have ALREADY put you on notice that I AM NOT informing you of all my trades, …
Non sequitur, as you’ve been on notice yourself that you can’t make any claims on any
trades that you’ve not posted prior adequate notice. Thus, you’ll no longer be able to
cherry-pick from your entire portfolio to find a winner to claim…unless you choose to
disclose your entire portfolio, of course.
You are a PIECE OF WORK, Asshole! I owe you exactly NOTHING, which is exactly
what you DESERVE. You are a loser living a life of quiet desperation that looks at
diminishing those that have done better than you.
Golly, that reflection you see of yourself in the mirror really is quite ugly, isn’t it?
Post by Tommy
Post by Tommy
… just as YOU are not doing the same (and, now, declaring that you bought TQQQ
with a very suspicious trade confirmation).
Nah, you’ve already been told to provide an example of your own trades with the level
of detail you’re trying to complain about not getting from others…and have not done so.
Silence from Tommy.
Post by Tommy
Post by Tommy
Let's face it: you're jealous of my success and want to belittle it at every opportunity.
So be it - you are welcome to wallow in your proven mediocrity.
Sorry, but you do that all on your own and to yourself. No one here has any reason
to be in the least jealous of your little goldfish bowl’s echo chamber.
Yeah, right - coming from a loser.
Nah, the problem you have Tommy is that I’ve not tried to brag as much as you, so
you’re stuck in the “absence of evidence is not evidence of absence” logical trap.
Plus even when I’ve dropped clues, you’ve been unable and/or unwilling to
comprehend and/or acknowledge their significance. Your loss, not mine.
BTW, a retired friend sent me these two links recently; first is an illustration
whereas the second is a quasi-analysis…a bit overly broad, but nevertheless
< https://www.bogleheads.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=396981&sid=7b59bcd7747813e9852733284ece221f>
< https://bowtiedbull.substack.com/p/going-through-levels-of-wealth>
Quick reads both.
[quote]
Common tells of the Upper Middle Class belief system
* Absolute obsession with being seen as important...
* Insecurity...
* Passive aggressive behavior...Constant emphasis on how “high they are up the chain”.
* Obsession with “comp”....common for them to prod and try to figure out how much you make...
[/quote]
YAAAWWWWWNNNNNNNN...
“Cry harder”, Tommy.
Post by Tommy
Your attempt at psychoanalysis is PATHETIC, Lyin' Asshole.
[quote]
* Absolute obsession with being seen as important...
* Insecurity...
* Passive aggressive behavior...Constant emphasis on how “high they are up the chain”.
* Obsession with “comp”....common for them to prod and try to figure out how much you make...
[/quote]
Yes, it is.
Nope: <https://bowtiedbull.substack.com/p/going-through-levels-of-wealth>
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Post by -hh
Shoot the messenger much?
Post by Tommy
The bottom line is the same: you just live a miserable life jealous of others
who have succeeded where you have failed.
YA instance of a (self-alleged) RSG “multimillionaire” being vain & bitter.
Hardly. I am neither vain nor bitter.
"...he vainly whined, so bitterly that his flecks of spittle tarnished the basement's linoleum floor." /s
Post by Tommy
On the contrary, I have tried to pass the secret of my success to you libtards and have
been met with nothing but scorn and derision (which is why you dudes aren't successful).
Incorrect: your so-called 'secrets' weren't secrets at all, nor even about how to be successful
in business. They were just a couple of already-known strategies for personal income taxes.
FYI, it is hard to honestly claim that the disinclination was scornful/derisive when it was explained
as due to individual circumstances (e.g. insufficient age for RMDs, employer benefits) which was
what made them de-optimal strategies to be employed at present.
Perhaps what you're thinking of as derision was in how it was noted that you had exaggerated
on your claimed magnitude of savings? Or how your misrepresenting a mere two tips as "many"?
Nope. Attention to Detail is a time-tested attribute for success in life & business: try it sometime.
Post by Tommy
Post by -hh
Naturally, Tommy has provided zero quantified metrics for what anyone is
supposed to be jealous of him for. Perhaps it will be stomach acidity level?
You continually obliviate on it - that is ample evidence of jealousness.
Nah, it has merely become sport to remind you of your "emperor has no clothes" personal failure.
Because no one forced you to make your 'multimillionaire' claim, yet you did so & repeated that
many times. Your attempt to rub that in the face of others has backfired on you because you've
not ever substantiated your allegation, which is why it, like you, rings empty and hollow.
Hey Lyin' Asshole, you present a PHONY E-Trade transaction and you QUESTION my veracity???
Go back to the drawing board, bozo.
Oh, look: Tommy is back to that old diversion attempt again, only this time he's tried to move from
claiming it was a "very suspicious trade confirmation" to now alleging it was a "PHONY" one.
No proof again, of course.
"Go ahead and complain that this isn't good enough, but do so by leading by example, by posting your own
purchase order record of CVX to show what the minimum disclosure resolution is that you want to see."
Instead of leading by example, Tommy vainly just posts bitter another "Grandpa Simpson" rant.
LOL! Hey Lyin' Asshole, your phony Etrade confirmation shows a price of ONE DOLLAR and NOTHING
for the quantity. Now, are you claiming that is a REAL confirmation????
And no account number either: you're just confused because the redaction of that information
was done as white on transparent, which your image viewer represented as white on white: try
opening the file in a better GIF browser/editor to better reveal where the redactions were made.
Or ask nicely what contrasting color you want it changed to .. perhaps "cowardly Tommy yellow streak"?
Since that would be too much work for Tommy, here's an update of the substantiation, with the
redactions done in Tommy Yellow so that he can't legitimately complain about not being able to
see exactly where each redaction was done:

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Well, after yesterday's correction, seems about right to pull on Tommy's
chain again on how well his 'TQQQ' is doing.
Meantime...
Probably time to check these again; midday 22 Aug 22
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[YTD's were as of 19 May 2022]
BCE (DIV 5.3%) +2.3% Aug --> -2.81%
BBY (DIV 3.5%) -23% Aug --> -20.43%
CVX (DIV 3.5%) +40% Aug --> +33.69%
ED (DIV 3.5%) +12% Aug --> +18.11%
ENB (DIV 6%) +16% Aug --> +13.26%
JNJ (DIV 2.4%) +3.3% Aug --> -0.32%
LMT (DIV 2.6%) +22% Aug --> +25.64%
NVS (DIV 2.5%) +1.8% Aug --> -2.74%
VTRS (DIV 4.5%) -14% Aug --> -22.55%
--------------------------------------
Total portfolio slice is still net positive 'YTD', by +6.1%, which contrasts ever
so slightly to the likes of Tommy's TQQQ being down by a mere -66%.
YTD is still positive, at +4.65% whereas TQQQ at $32.4 is in the red at -62% ... although
to be fair, that is a four point recovery since May. Of course, this +4.65% is before
dividends (roughly +2.5%), so one could say that it is effectively at +7% YTD.
Been way too long since reporting back on this...
BCE (DIV 5.3%) -14%
BBY (DIV 3.5%) -18%
CVX (DIV 3.5%) +44%
ED (DIV 3.5%) +13%
ENB (DIV 6%) +1%
JNJ (DIV 2.4%) +5%
LMT (DIV 2.6%) +39%
NVS (DIV 2.5%) +4%
VTRS (DIV 4.5%) -18%
Total portfolio slice is still net positive 'YTD', by +5.54% on Equities values...plus, of
course, the dividends spun off...roughly another +3.77%, so approx. +9% paper return.
+7.34% appreciation, plus the dividends, so roughly a 10%-11% YoY return.
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Apologies, forgot to include the comparison back to TQQQ for Tommy.
TQQQ (close yesterday) at $18.27 ... down -17% since Tommy's claimed purchase of it
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.sport.golf/c/ooGucHaSsFI/m/DpkT6VenAwAJ>
Tommy's silent, of course, as TQQQ's back under $22/share.
-hh
Well, let's look at how Lyin' Asshole's strategy played out.
I figured you'd crawl back as soon as you were 'safely' above water.
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The Fed announced today a 0.25% rate hike and indicated they were close to the end of rate hikes.
"The Fed Raises Rates a Quarter Point and Signals More Ahead
America’s central bank has shifted into a new phase, raising rates
more slowly as inflation shows signs of moderating."
<https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/01/business/federal-reserve-interest-rates.html>
It includes a statement of "...“a couple more” rate increases..." too.
Post by Tommy
This is what I was anticipating, and the market responded accordingly.
TQQQ is now at 24.39, giving me about an 11% gain in less than 90 days - not bad.
So? Does that mean that you sold today?
So, you STATED that I had a 20% LOSS w/o asking me if I had sold!
"Tommy's silent, of course, as TQQQ's back under $22/share. "
Plus Tommy's silent on if he's bailed out of TQQQ with just his 11% gain (before STCG taxes).
Post by -hh
Post by Tommy
WHY don't you maintain the same standards????
Sorry, but I *exceed* the standards that you use, by actually substantiating statements.
Post by Tommy
Post by -hh
Post by Tommy
More importantly, the trajectory going forward is much more likely to be up than down.
Yes, that's what the Fed said: "...“a couple more” rate increases...".
Or did you mean to suggest something else?
Hey Lyin' Asshole, I'm going to give you the MOST IMPORTANT piece of advice yet: the Fed is near
the end of their rate increases and the market KNOWS that. Prices have ALREADY factored those
increases in and company profits have ABSORBED those increases, so the market is GREEN-LIGHTED
for an upside move. In other words, we have already seen the market BOTTOM. Is that clear enough
for your peanut-sized brain??????
So you've definitively called the bottom. Does this also mean that you're also saying that there will be
no recession in 2023 either?
Hmmm...
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Meanwhile, the Lyin' Asshole has his thumb up his ass, not knowing what to do, but what else is new?
Golly, looks like Mr. Senile forgot that someone mentioned buying TQQQ in December
Hey LA, did you BUY TQQQ at that price? I DOUBT IT!!!!
<http://huntzinger.com/usenet/2022-TQQQ_redacted.gif>
Granted, it is redacted, but it is nevertheless sufficient to show a TQQQ purchase in December, at
a price whose first digit is a "1" instead of a "2". Go ahead and complain that this isn't good enough,
but do so by leading by example, by posting your own purchase order record of CVX to show what
the minimum disclosure resolution is that you want to see.
Still waiting.
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Post by -hh
[quote]
12/27/22 update: TQQQ low & close: $16.72 & $16.84
Looks like I can expect some paperwork in the mail from a certain limit order...
[/quote]
Hmmm...that suggests something north of +40%, doesn't it?
Not for you because you DIDN'T BUY IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Except for how any TQQQ purchase below $20.00 versus your $24.39 price point
would be at least a +22% gain.
If PP = $19.50 --> +25%
If PP = $19.00 --> +28%
If PP = $18.50 --> +32%
If PP = $18.00 --> +36%
If PP = $17.50 --> +39%
If PP = $17.00 --> +43%
If PP = $16.50 --> +48%
etc
Meantime, today's jobs report was too strong, so Markets are dropping because they know
that that's meat for the Federal Reserve to keep on increasing rates for longer = a Tommy oops!
Without nitpicking, ...
This would be the part where Tommy tries to ignore that his call that the Feds have ended making
rate hikes is looking quite incorrect at the end of last week. Plus Tommy's silent on if he's bailed
out of TQQQ with just a 11% gain (before STCG taxes).
... its good to see that you followed my advice FOR ONCE!
Nah, the TQQQ holdings are insignificant: they're worth the entertainment value of seeing you
squirm, because no matter what brag you try to make, you know someone else is doing better than you.
The Lyin' Asshole's string of lies is unbroken: WHEN did I say that the Fed had ENDED their rate hikes?
"....indicated they were close to the end of rate hikes."
That's in conjunction and context with how you've not denied having also called the bottom already, as well as
the elaborations on how a bottom occurs only a few months before the last rate hikes. Together, it points to
the Fed's March meeting as being the last rate hike as being what you meant - - at the time you said it.
Naturally, now that the Fed has clearly said otherwise, you're trying to change what you meant, particularly
particularly since the June and even May Fed meeting dates are already too far into 2023 for a reasonable
expectation of a Fed rate cut occurring 2023, because any sort of Fed rates hold duration would be negated.
Meantime, you're silent on if you already bailed out of TQQQ at its 11% gain point (before STCG taxes).
Ditto on you providing clarity on if you're also saying that there will be no recession in 2023 either.
As well as your mystery purchase record on CVX....oh, gosh on INTC too (purchased claimed prior to 11 Jan 22)
31 Dec 21: $48.94**
11 Jan 22: $52.46
11 Feb 23: $27.80
** - adjusted close; lowest daily non-adjusted low for 10/31/21 through 1/11/22 was $49.18
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Hey Asshole, at least you ADMIT that I didn't say the Fed was DONE with rate hikes.
There are, at least, two more rate hikes in the works, PROBABLY (note I am not declaring this) 0.25% each.
Oh, so it’s “at least two”? That’s what’s now supposed to be “close”? This pushes out the first
meeting with no expected rate hike to mid-June, so where does that now place your bottom,
for which you’ve previously said “I am saying that the market is going thru a bottoming process
this quarter.”, which ends in just 51 days? Trying to copy my 1H comment?
So, now you are arguing about what "close" means. Sorry, but your sorry ass
doesn't deserve an education in that.
Nope, just illustrating how you’re trying to [use] a rubber ruler…again. And got caught…again.
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We have ALREADY had our recession which you profoundly waffled about.
No, NBER is the authority on that, and they’ve not made that call. Sorry.
Sorry, but we WERE.
Nope. No matter what you want to believe, NBER has not made that determination.
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I have ALREADY put you on notice that I AM NOT informing you of all my trades, …
Non sequitur, as you’ve been on notice yourself that you can’t make any claims on any
trades that you’ve not posted prior adequate notice. Thus, you’ll no longer be able to
cherry-pick from your entire portfolio to find a winner to claim…unless you choose to
disclose your entire portfolio, of course.
You are a PIECE OF WORK, Asshole! I owe you exactly NOTHING, which is exactly
what you DESERVE. You are a loser living a life of quiet desperation that looks at
diminishing those that have done better than you.
Golly, that reflection you see of yourself in the mirror really is quite ugly, isn’t it?
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Post by Tommy
… just as YOU are not doing the same (and, now, declaring that you bought TQQQ
with a very suspicious trade confirmation).
Nah, you’ve already been told to provide an example of your own trades with the level
of detail you’re trying to complain about not getting from others…and have not done so.
Silence from Tommy.
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Post by Tommy
Let's face it: you're jealous of my success and want to belittle it at every opportunity.
So be it - you are welcome to wallow in your proven mediocrity.
Sorry, but you do that all on your own and to yourself. No one here has any reason
to be in the least jealous of your little goldfish bowl’s echo chamber.
Yeah, right - coming from a loser.
Nah, the problem you have Tommy is that I’ve not tried to brag as much as you, so
you’re stuck in the “absence of evidence is not evidence of absence” logical trap.
Plus even when I’ve dropped clues, you’ve been unable and/or unwilling to
comprehend and/or acknowledge their significance. Your loss, not mine.
BTW, a retired friend sent me these two links recently; first is an illustration
whereas the second is a quasi-analysis…a bit overly broad, but nevertheless
< https://www.bogleheads.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=396981&sid=7b59bcd7747813e9852733284ece221f>
< https://bowtiedbull.substack.com/p/going-through-levels-of-wealth>
Quick reads both.
[quote]
Common tells of the Upper Middle Class belief system
* Absolute obsession with being seen as important...
* Insecurity...
* Passive aggressive behavior...Constant emphasis on how “high they are up the chain”.
* Obsession with “comp”....common for them to prod and try to figure out how much you make...
[/quote]
YAAAWWWWWNNNNNNNN...
“Cry harder”, Tommy.
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Your attempt at psychoanalysis is PATHETIC, Lyin' Asshole.
[quote]
* Absolute obsession with being seen as important...
* Insecurity...
* Passive aggressive behavior...Constant emphasis on how “high they are up the chain”.
* Obsession with “comp”....common for them to prod and try to figure out how much you make...
[/quote]
Yes, it is.
Nope: <https://bowtiedbull.substack.com/p/going-through-levels-of-wealth>
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Post by -hh
Shoot the messenger much?
Post by Tommy
The bottom line is the same: you just live a miserable life jealous of others
who have succeeded where you have failed.
YA instance of a (self-alleged) RSG “multimillionaire” being vain & bitter.
Hardly. I am neither vain nor bitter.
"...he vainly whined, so bitterly that his flecks of spittle tarnished the basement's linoleum floor." /s
Post by Tommy
On the contrary, I have tried to pass the secret of my success to you libtards and have
been met with nothing but scorn and derision (which is why you dudes aren't successful).
Incorrect: your so-called 'secrets' weren't secrets at all, nor even about how to be successful
in business. They were just a couple of already-known strategies for personal income taxes.
FYI, it is hard to honestly claim that the disinclination was scornful/derisive when it was explained
as due to individual circumstances (e.g. insufficient age for RMDs, employer benefits) which was
what made them de-optimal strategies to be employed at present.
Perhaps what you're thinking of as derision was in how it was noted that you had exaggerated
on your claimed magnitude of savings? Or how your misrepresenting a mere two tips as "many"?
Nope. Attention to Detail is a time-tested attribute for success in life & business: try it sometime.
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Post by -hh
Naturally, Tommy has provided zero quantified metrics for what anyone is
supposed to be jealous of him for. Perhaps it will be stomach acidity level?
You continually obliviate on it - that is ample evidence of jealousness.
Nah, it has merely become sport to remind you of your "emperor has no clothes" personal failure.
Because no one forced you to make your 'multimillionaire' claim, yet you did so & repeated that
many times. Your attempt to rub that in the face of others has backfired on you because you've
not ever substantiated your allegation, which is why it, like you, rings empty and hollow.
Hey Lyin' Asshole, you present a PHONY E-Trade transaction and you QUESTION my veracity???
Go back to the drawing board, bozo.
Oh, look: Tommy is back to that old diversion attempt again, only this time he's tried to move from
claiming it was a "very suspicious trade confirmation" to now alleging it was a "PHONY" one.
No proof again, of course.
"Go ahead and complain that this isn't good enough, but do so by leading by example, by posting your own
purchase order record of CVX to show what the minimum disclosure resolution is that you want to see."
Instead of leading by example, Tommy vainly just posts bitter another "Grandpa Simpson" rant.
LOL! Hey Lyin' Asshole, your phony Etrade confirmation shows a price of ONE DOLLAR and NOTHING
for the quantity. Now, are you claiming that is a REAL confirmation????
And no account number either: you're just confused because the redaction of that information
was done as white on transparent, which your image viewer represented as white on white: try
opening the file in a better GIF browser/editor to better reveal where the redactions were made.
Or ask nicely what contrasting color you want it changed to .. perhaps "cowardly Tommy yellow streak"?
Since that would be too much work for Tommy, here's an update of the substantiation, with the
redactions done in Tommy Yellow so that he can't legitimately complain about not being able to
<https://www.huntzinger.com/usenet/2022-TQQQ_redacted.gif>
Meantime, back on 3 Feb, we were told: “Prices have ALREADY factored those increases in and
company profits have ABSORBED those increases, so the market is GREEN-LIGHTED for an upside
move. In other words, we have already seen the market BOTTOM.”

But it appears that the Markets have had a difficult opinion of “bottom” than Tommy …

DJIA is currently down -800, of which -500 was just today. Similarly, Tommy’s favorite of TQQQ
was at $25.52 on the 3rd, but closed today at $22.35.

-hh
-hh
2023-02-24 21:59:42 UTC
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Well, after yesterday's correction, seems about right to pull on Tommy's
chain again on how well his 'TQQQ' is doing.
Meantime...
Probably time to check these again; midday 22 Aug 22
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[YTD's were as of 19 May 2022]
BCE (DIV 5.3%) +2.3% Aug --> -2.81%
BBY (DIV 3.5%) -23% Aug --> -20.43%
CVX (DIV 3.5%) +40% Aug --> +33.69%
ED (DIV 3.5%) +12% Aug --> +18.11%
ENB (DIV 6%) +16% Aug --> +13.26%
JNJ (DIV 2.4%) +3.3% Aug --> -0.32%
LMT (DIV 2.6%) +22% Aug --> +25.64%
NVS (DIV 2.5%) +1.8% Aug --> -2.74%
VTRS (DIV 4.5%) -14% Aug --> -22.55%
--------------------------------------
Total portfolio slice is still net positive 'YTD', by +6.1%, which contrasts ever
so slightly to the likes of Tommy's TQQQ being down by a mere -66%.
YTD is still positive, at +4.65% whereas TQQQ at $32.4 is in the red at -62% ... although
to be fair, that is a four point recovery since May. Of course, this +4.65% is before
dividends (roughly +2.5%), so one could say that it is effectively at +7% YTD.
Been way too long since reporting back on this...
BCE (DIV 5.3%) -14%
BBY (DIV 3.5%) -18%
CVX (DIV 3.5%) +44%
ED (DIV 3.5%) +13%
ENB (DIV 6%) +1%
JNJ (DIV 2.4%) +5%
LMT (DIV 2.6%) +39%
NVS (DIV 2.5%) +4%
VTRS (DIV 4.5%) -18%
Total portfolio slice is still net positive 'YTD', by +5.54% on Equities values...plus, of
course, the dividends spun off...roughly another +3.77%, so approx. +9% paper return.
+7.34% appreciation, plus the dividends, so roughly a 10%-11% YoY return.
Post by -hh
Apologies, forgot to include the comparison back to TQQQ for Tommy.
TQQQ (close yesterday) at $18.27 ... down -17% since Tommy's claimed purchase of it
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.sport.golf/c/ooGucHaSsFI/m/DpkT6VenAwAJ>
Tommy's silent, of course, as TQQQ's back under $22/share.
-hh
Well, let's look at how Lyin' Asshole's strategy played out.
I figured you'd crawl back as soon as you were 'safely' above water.
Post by Tommy
The Fed announced today a 0.25% rate hike and indicated they were close to the end of rate hikes.
"The Fed Raises Rates a Quarter Point and Signals More Ahead
America’s central bank has shifted into a new phase, raising rates
more slowly as inflation shows signs of moderating."
<https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/01/business/federal-reserve-interest-rates.html>
It includes a statement of "...“a couple more” rate increases..." too.
Post by Tommy
This is what I was anticipating, and the market responded accordingly.
TQQQ is now at 24.39, giving me about an 11% gain in less than 90 days - not bad.
So? Does that mean that you sold today?
So, you STATED that I had a 20% LOSS w/o asking me if I had sold!
"Tommy's silent, of course, as TQQQ's back under $22/share. "
Plus Tommy's silent on if he's bailed out of TQQQ with just his 11% gain (before STCG taxes).
Post by -hh
Post by Tommy
WHY don't you maintain the same standards????
Sorry, but I *exceed* the standards that you use, by actually substantiating statements.
Post by Tommy
Post by -hh
Post by Tommy
More importantly, the trajectory going forward is much more likely to be up than down.
Yes, that's what the Fed said: "...“a couple more” rate increases...".
Or did you mean to suggest something else?
Hey Lyin' Asshole, I'm going to give you the MOST IMPORTANT piece of advice yet: the Fed is near
the end of their rate increases and the market KNOWS that. Prices have ALREADY factored those
increases in and company profits have ABSORBED those increases, so the market is GREEN-LIGHTED
for an upside move. In other words, we have already seen the market BOTTOM. Is that clear enough
for your peanut-sized brain??????
So you've definitively called the bottom. Does this also mean that you're also saying that there will be
no recession in 2023 either?
Hmmm...
Post by -hh
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Post by -hh
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Meanwhile, the Lyin' Asshole has his thumb up his ass, not knowing what to do, but what else is new?
Golly, looks like Mr. Senile forgot that someone mentioned buying TQQQ in December
Hey LA, did you BUY TQQQ at that price? I DOUBT IT!!!!
<http://huntzinger.com/usenet/2022-TQQQ_redacted.gif>
Granted, it is redacted, but it is nevertheless sufficient to show a TQQQ purchase in December, at
a price whose first digit is a "1" instead of a "2". Go ahead and complain that this isn't good enough,
but do so by leading by example, by posting your own purchase order record of CVX to show what
the minimum disclosure resolution is that you want to see.
Still waiting.
Post by -hh
Post by Tommy
Post by -hh
[quote]
12/27/22 update: TQQQ low & close: $16.72 & $16.84
Looks like I can expect some paperwork in the mail from a certain limit order...
[/quote]
Hmmm...that suggests something north of +40%, doesn't it?
Not for you because you DIDN'T BUY IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Except for how any TQQQ purchase below $20.00 versus your $24.39 price point
would be at least a +22% gain.
If PP = $19.50 --> +25%
If PP = $19.00 --> +28%
If PP = $18.50 --> +32%
If PP = $18.00 --> +36%
If PP = $17.50 --> +39%
If PP = $17.00 --> +43%
If PP = $16.50 --> +48%
etc
Meantime, today's jobs report was too strong, so Markets are dropping because they know
that that's meat for the Federal Reserve to keep on increasing rates for longer = a Tommy oops!
Without nitpicking, ...
This would be the part where Tommy tries to ignore that his call that the Feds have ended making
rate hikes is looking quite incorrect at the end of last week. Plus Tommy's silent on if he's bailed
out of TQQQ with just a 11% gain (before STCG taxes).
... its good to see that you followed my advice FOR ONCE!
Nah, the TQQQ holdings are insignificant: they're worth the entertainment value of seeing you
squirm, because no matter what brag you try to make, you know someone else is doing better than you.
The Lyin' Asshole's string of lies is unbroken: WHEN did I say that the Fed had ENDED their rate hikes?
"....indicated they were close to the end of rate hikes."
That's in conjunction and context with how you've not denied having also called the bottom already, as well as
the elaborations on how a bottom occurs only a few months before the last rate hikes. Together, it points to
the Fed's March meeting as being the last rate hike as being what you meant - - at the time you said it.
Naturally, now that the Fed has clearly said otherwise, you're trying to change what you meant, particularly
particularly since the June and even May Fed meeting dates are already too far into 2023 for a reasonable
expectation of a Fed rate cut occurring 2023, because any sort of Fed rates hold duration would be negated.
Meantime, you're silent on if you already bailed out of TQQQ at its 11% gain point (before STCG taxes).
Ditto on you providing clarity on if you're also saying that there will be no recession in 2023 either.
As well as your mystery purchase record on CVX....oh, gosh on INTC too (purchased claimed prior to 11 Jan 22)
31 Dec 21: $48.94**
11 Jan 22: $52.46
11 Feb 23: $27.80
** - adjusted close; lowest daily non-adjusted low for 10/31/21 through 1/11/22 was $49.18
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Post by Tommy
Hey Asshole, at least you ADMIT that I didn't say the Fed was DONE with rate hikes.
There are, at least, two more rate hikes in the works, PROBABLY (note I am not declaring this) 0.25% each.
Oh, so it’s “at least two”? That’s what’s now supposed to be “close”? This pushes out the first
meeting with no expected rate hike to mid-June, so where does that now place your bottom,
for which you’ve previously said “I am saying that the market is going thru a bottoming process
this quarter.”, which ends in just 51 days? Trying to copy my 1H comment?
So, now you are arguing about what "close" means. Sorry, but your sorry ass
doesn't deserve an education in that.
Nope, just illustrating how you’re trying to [use] a rubber ruler…again. And got caught…again.
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Post by Tommy
We have ALREADY had our recession which you profoundly waffled about.
No, NBER is the authority on that, and they’ve not made that call. Sorry.
Sorry, but we WERE.
Nope. No matter what you want to believe, NBER has not made that determination.
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Post by Tommy
I have ALREADY put you on notice that I AM NOT informing you of all my trades, …
Non sequitur, as you’ve been on notice yourself that you can’t make any claims on any
trades that you’ve not posted prior adequate notice. Thus, you’ll no longer be able to
cherry-pick from your entire portfolio to find a winner to claim…unless you choose to
disclose your entire portfolio, of course.
You are a PIECE OF WORK, Asshole! I owe you exactly NOTHING, which is exactly
what you DESERVE. You are a loser living a life of quiet desperation that looks at
diminishing those that have done better than you.
Golly, that reflection you see of yourself in the mirror really is quite ugly, isn’t it?
Post by Tommy
Post by Tommy
… just as YOU are not doing the same (and, now, declaring that you bought TQQQ
with a very suspicious trade confirmation).
Nah, you’ve already been told to provide an example of your own trades with the level
of detail you’re trying to complain about not getting from others…and have not done so.
Silence from Tommy.
Post by Tommy
Post by Tommy
Let's face it: you're jealous of my success and want to belittle it at every opportunity.
So be it - you are welcome to wallow in your proven mediocrity.
Sorry, but you do that all on your own and to yourself. No one here has any reason
to be in the least jealous of your little goldfish bowl’s echo chamber.
Yeah, right - coming from a loser.
Nah, the problem you have Tommy is that I’ve not tried to brag as much as you, so
you’re stuck in the “absence of evidence is not evidence of absence” logical trap.
Plus even when I’ve dropped clues, you’ve been unable and/or unwilling to
comprehend and/or acknowledge their significance. Your loss, not mine.
BTW, a retired friend sent me these two links recently; first is an illustration
whereas the second is a quasi-analysis…a bit overly broad, but nevertheless
< https://www.bogleheads.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=396981&sid=7b59bcd7747813e9852733284ece221f>
< https://bowtiedbull.substack.com/p/going-through-levels-of-wealth>
Quick reads both.
[quote]
Common tells of the Upper Middle Class belief system
* Absolute obsession with being seen as important...
* Insecurity...
* Passive aggressive behavior...Constant emphasis on how “high they are up the chain”.
* Obsession with “comp”....common for them to prod and try to figure out how much you make...
[/quote]
YAAAWWWWWNNNNNNNN...
“Cry harder”, Tommy.
Post by Tommy
Your attempt at psychoanalysis is PATHETIC, Lyin' Asshole.
[quote]
* Absolute obsession with being seen as important...
* Insecurity...
* Passive aggressive behavior...Constant emphasis on how “high they are up the chain”.
* Obsession with “comp”....common for them to prod and try to figure out how much you make...
[/quote]
Yes, it is.
Nope: <https://bowtiedbull.substack.com/p/going-through-levels-of-wealth>
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Post by -hh
Shoot the messenger much?
Post by Tommy
The bottom line is the same: you just live a miserable life jealous of others
who have succeeded where you have failed.
YA instance of a (self-alleged) RSG “multimillionaire” being vain & bitter.
Hardly. I am neither vain nor bitter.
"...he vainly whined, so bitterly that his flecks of spittle tarnished the basement's linoleum floor." /s
Post by Tommy
On the contrary, I have tried to pass the secret of my success to you libtards and have
been met with nothing but scorn and derision (which is why you dudes aren't successful).
Incorrect: your so-called 'secrets' weren't secrets at all, nor even about how to be successful
in business. They were just a couple of already-known strategies for personal income taxes.
FYI, it is hard to honestly claim that the disinclination was scornful/derisive when it was explained
as due to individual circumstances (e.g. insufficient age for RMDs, employer benefits) which was
what made them de-optimal strategies to be employed at present.
Perhaps what you're thinking of as derision was in how it was noted that you had exaggerated
on your claimed magnitude of savings? Or how your misrepresenting a mere two tips as "many"?
Nope. Attention to Detail is a time-tested attribute for success in life & business: try it sometime.
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Naturally, Tommy has provided zero quantified metrics for what anyone is
supposed to be jealous of him for. Perhaps it will be stomach acidity level?
You continually obliviate on it - that is ample evidence of jealousness.
Nah, it has merely become sport to remind you of your "emperor has no clothes" personal failure.
Because no one forced you to make your 'multimillionaire' claim, yet you did so & repeated that
many times. Your attempt to rub that in the face of others has backfired on you because you've
not ever substantiated your allegation, which is why it, like you, rings empty and hollow.
Hey Lyin' Asshole, you present a PHONY E-Trade transaction and you QUESTION my veracity???
Go back to the drawing board, bozo.
Oh, look: Tommy is back to that old diversion attempt again, only this time he's tried to move from
claiming it was a "very suspicious trade confirmation" to now alleging it was a "PHONY" one.
No proof again, of course.
"Go ahead and complain that this isn't good enough, but do so by leading by example, by posting your own
purchase order record of CVX to show what the minimum disclosure resolution is that you want to see."
Instead of leading by example, Tommy vainly just posts bitter another "Grandpa Simpson" rant.
LOL! Hey Lyin' Asshole, your phony Etrade confirmation shows a price of ONE DOLLAR and NOTHING
for the quantity. Now, are you claiming that is a REAL confirmation????
And no account number either: you're just confused because the redaction of that information
was done as white on transparent, which your image viewer represented as white on white: try
opening the file in a better GIF browser/editor to better reveal where the redactions were made.
Or ask nicely what contrasting color you want it changed to .. perhaps "cowardly Tommy yellow streak"?
Since that would be too much work for Tommy, here's an update of the substantiation, with the
redactions done in Tommy Yellow so that he can't legitimately complain about not being able to
<https://www.huntzinger.com/usenet/2022-TQQQ_redacted.gif>
Meantime, back on 3 Feb, we were told: “Prices have ALREADY factored those increases in and
company profits have ABSORBED those increases, so the market is GREEN-LIGHTED for an upside
move. In other words, we have already seen the market BOTTOM.”
But it appears that the Markets have had a difficult opinion of “bottom” than Tommy …
DJIA is currently down -800, of which -500 was just today. Similarly, Tommy’s favorite of TQQQ
was at $25.52 on the 3rd, but closed today at $22.35.
TQQQ closed out the week today at $21.77

Naturally, Tommy's in hiding, having called "BOTTOM" three weeks ago.


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Well, after yesterday's correction, seems about right to pull on Tommy's
chain again on how well his 'TQQQ' is doing.
Meantime...
Probably time to check these again; midday 22 Aug 22
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[YTD's were as of 19 May 2022]
BCE (DIV 5.3%) +2.3% Aug --> -2.81%
BBY (DIV 3.5%) -23% Aug --> -20.43%
CVX (DIV 3.5%) +40% Aug --> +33.69%
ED (DIV 3.5%) +12% Aug --> +18.11%
ENB (DIV 6%) +16% Aug --> +13.26%
JNJ (DIV 2.4%) +3.3% Aug --> -0.32%
LMT (DIV 2.6%) +22% Aug --> +25.64%
NVS (DIV 2.5%) +1.8% Aug --> -2.74%
VTRS (DIV 4.5%) -14% Aug --> -22.55%
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Total portfolio slice is still net positive 'YTD', by +6.1%, which contrasts ever
so slightly to the likes of Tommy's TQQQ being down by a mere -66%.
YTD is still positive, at +4.65% whereas TQQQ at $32.4 is in the red at -62% ... although
to be fair, that is a four point recovery since May. Of course, this +4.65% is before
dividends (roughly +2.5%), so one could say that it is effectively at +7% YTD.
Been way too long since reporting back on this...
BCE (DIV 5.3%) -14%
BBY (DIV 3.5%) -18%
CVX (DIV 3.5%) +44%
ED (DIV 3.5%) +13%
ENB (DIV 6%) +1%
JNJ (DIV 2.4%) +5%
LMT (DIV 2.6%) +39%
NVS (DIV 2.5%) +4%
VTRS (DIV 4.5%) -18%
Total portfolio slice is still net positive 'YTD', by +5.54% on Equities values...plus, of
course, the dividends spun off...roughly another +3.77%, so approx. +9% paper return.
+7.34% appreciation, plus the dividends, so roughly a 10%-11% YoY return.
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Apologies, forgot to include the comparison back to TQQQ for Tommy.
TQQQ (close yesterday) at $18.27 ... down -17% since Tommy's claimed purchase of it
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.sport.golf/c/ooGucHaSsFI/m/DpkT6VenAwAJ>
Tommy's silent, of course, as TQQQ's back under $22/share.
-hh
Well, let's look at how Lyin' Asshole's strategy played out.
I figured you'd crawl back as soon as you were 'safely' above water.
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The Fed announced today a 0.25% rate hike and indicated they were close to the end of rate hikes.
"The Fed Raises Rates a Quarter Point and Signals More Ahead
America’s central bank has shifted into a new phase, raising rates
more slowly as inflation shows signs of moderating."
<https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/01/business/federal-reserve-interest-rates.html>
It includes a statement of "...“a couple more” rate increases..." too.
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This is what I was anticipating, and the market responded accordingly.
TQQQ is now at 24.39, giving me about an 11% gain in less than 90 days - not bad.
So? Does that mean that you sold today?
So, you STATED that I had a 20% LOSS w/o asking me if I had sold!
"Tommy's silent, of course, as TQQQ's back under $22/share. "
Plus Tommy's silent on if he's bailed out of TQQQ with just his 11% gain (before STCG taxes).
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WHY don't you maintain the same standards????
Sorry, but I *exceed* the standards that you use, by actually substantiating statements.
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More importantly, the trajectory going forward is much more likely to be up than down.
Yes, that's what the Fed said: "...“a couple more” rate increases...".
Or did you mean to suggest something else?
Hey Lyin' Asshole, I'm going to give you the MOST IMPORTANT piece of advice yet: the Fed is near
the end of their rate increases and the market KNOWS that. Prices have ALREADY factored those
increases in and company profits have ABSORBED those increases, so the market is GREEN-LIGHTED
for an upside move. In other words, we have already seen the market BOTTOM. Is that clear enough
for your peanut-sized brain??????
So you've definitively called the bottom. Does this also mean that you're also saying that there will be
no recession in 2023 either?
Hmmm...
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Meanwhile, the Lyin' Asshole has his thumb up his ass, not knowing what to do, but what else is new?
Golly, looks like Mr. Senile forgot that someone mentioned buying TQQQ in December
Hey LA, did you BUY TQQQ at that price? I DOUBT IT!!!!
<http://huntzinger.com/usenet/2022-TQQQ_redacted.gif>
Granted, it is redacted, but it is nevertheless sufficient to show a TQQQ purchase in December, at
a price whose first digit is a "1" instead of a "2". Go ahead and complain that this isn't good enough,
but do so by leading by example, by posting your own purchase order record of CVX to show what
the minimum disclosure resolution is that you want to see.
Still waiting.
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12/27/22 update: TQQQ low & close: $16.72 & $16.84
Looks like I can expect some paperwork in the mail from a certain limit order...
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Hmmm...that suggests something north of +40%, doesn't it?
Not for you because you DIDN'T BUY IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Except for how any TQQQ purchase below $20.00 versus your $24.39 price point
would be at least a +22% gain.
If PP = $19.50 --> +25%
If PP = $19.00 --> +28%
If PP = $18.50 --> +32%
If PP = $18.00 --> +36%
If PP = $17.50 --> +39%
If PP = $17.00 --> +43%
If PP = $16.50 --> +48%
etc
Meantime, today's jobs report was too strong, so Markets are dropping because they know
that that's meat for the Federal Reserve to keep on increasing rates for longer = a Tommy oops!
Without nitpicking, ...
This would be the part where Tommy tries to ignore that his call that the Feds have ended making
rate hikes is looking quite incorrect at the end of last week. Plus Tommy's silent on if he's bailed
out of TQQQ with just a 11% gain (before STCG taxes).
... its good to see that you followed my advice FOR ONCE!
Nah, the TQQQ holdings are insignificant: they're worth the entertainment value of seeing you
squirm, because no matter what brag you try to make, you know someone else is doing better than you.
The Lyin' Asshole's string of lies is unbroken: WHEN did I say that the Fed had ENDED their rate hikes?
"....indicated they were close to the end of rate hikes."
That's in conjunction and context with how you've not denied having also called the bottom already, as well as
the elaborations on how a bottom occurs only a few months before the last rate hikes. Together, it points to
the Fed's March meeting as being the last rate hike as being what you meant - - at the time you said it.
Naturally, now that the Fed has clearly said otherwise, you're trying to change what you meant, particularly
particularly since the June and even May Fed meeting dates are already too far into 2023 for a reasonable
expectation of a Fed rate cut occurring 2023, because any sort of Fed rates hold duration would be negated.
Meantime, you're silent on if you already bailed out of TQQQ at its 11% gain point (before STCG taxes).
Ditto on you providing clarity on if you're also saying that there will be no recession in 2023 either.
As well as your mystery purchase record on CVX....oh, gosh on INTC too (purchased claimed prior to 11 Jan 22)
31 Dec 21: $48.94**
11 Jan 22: $52.46
11 Feb 23: $27.80
** - adjusted close; lowest daily non-adjusted low for 10/31/21 through 1/11/22 was $49.18
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Hey Asshole, at least you ADMIT that I didn't say the Fed was DONE with rate hikes.
There are, at least, two more rate hikes in the works, PROBABLY (note I am not declaring this) 0.25% each.
Oh, so it’s “at least two”? That’s what’s now supposed to be “close”? This pushes out the first
meeting with no expected rate hike to mid-June, so where does that now place your bottom,
for which you’ve previously said “I am saying that the market is going thru a bottoming process
this quarter.”, which ends in just 51 days? Trying to copy my 1H comment?
So, now you are arguing about what "close" means. Sorry, but your sorry ass
doesn't deserve an education in that.
Nope, just illustrating how you’re trying to [use] a rubber ruler…again. And got caught…again.
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We have ALREADY had our recession which you profoundly waffled about.
No, NBER is the authority on that, and they’ve not made that call. Sorry.
Sorry, but we WERE.
Nope. No matter what you want to believe, NBER has not made that determination.
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I have ALREADY put you on notice that I AM NOT informing you of all my trades, …
Non sequitur, as you’ve been on notice yourself that you can’t make any claims on any
trades that you’ve not posted prior adequate notice. Thus, you’ll no longer be able to
cherry-pick from your entire portfolio to find a winner to claim…unless you choose to
disclose your entire portfolio, of course.
You are a PIECE OF WORK, Asshole! I owe you exactly NOTHING, which is exactly
what you DESERVE. You are a loser living a life of quiet desperation that looks at
diminishing those that have done better than you.
Golly, that reflection you see of yourself in the mirror really is quite ugly, isn’t it?
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… just as YOU are not doing the same (and, now, declaring that you bought TQQQ
with a very suspicious trade confirmation).
Nah, you’ve already been told to provide an example of your own trades with the level
of detail you’re trying to complain about not getting from others…and have not done so.
Silence from Tommy.
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Let's face it: you're jealous of my success and want to belittle it at every opportunity.
So be it - you are welcome to wallow in your proven mediocrity.
Sorry, but you do that all on your own and to yourself. No one here has any reason
to be in the least jealous of your little goldfish bowl’s echo chamber.
Yeah, right - coming from a loser.
Nah, the problem you have Tommy is that I’ve not tried to brag as much as you, so
you’re stuck in the “absence of evidence is not evidence of absence” logical trap.
Plus even when I’ve dropped clues, you’ve been unable and/or unwilling to
comprehend and/or acknowledge their significance. Your loss, not mine.
BTW, a retired friend sent me these two links recently; first is an illustration
whereas the second is a quasi-analysis…a bit overly broad, but nevertheless
< https://www.bogleheads.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=396981&sid=7b59bcd7747813e9852733284ece221f>
< https://bowtiedbull.substack.com/p/going-through-levels-of-wealth>
Quick reads both.
[quote]
Common tells of the Upper Middle Class belief system
* Absolute obsession with being seen as important...
* Insecurity...
* Passive aggressive behavior...Constant emphasis on how “high they are up the chain”.
* Obsession with “comp”....common for them to prod and try to figure out how much you make...
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YAAAWWWWWNNNNNNNN...
“Cry harder”, Tommy.
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Your attempt at psychoanalysis is PATHETIC, Lyin' Asshole.
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* Absolute obsession with being seen as important...
* Insecurity...
* Passive aggressive behavior...Constant emphasis on how “high they are up the chain”.
* Obsession with “comp”....common for them to prod and try to figure out how much you make...
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Yes, it is.
Nope: <https://bowtiedbull.substack.com/p/going-through-levels-of-wealth>
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Shoot the messenger much?
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The bottom line is the same: you just live a miserable life jealous of others
who have succeeded where you have failed.
YA instance of a (self-alleged) RSG “multimillionaire” being vain & bitter.
Hardly. I am neither vain nor bitter.
"...he vainly whined, so bitterly that his flecks of spittle tarnished the basement's linoleum floor." /s
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On the contrary, I have tried to pass the secret of my success to you libtards and have
been met with nothing but scorn and derision (which is why you dudes aren't successful).
Incorrect: your so-called 'secrets' weren't secrets at all, nor even about how to be successful
in business. They were just a couple of already-known strategies for personal income taxes.
FYI, it is hard to honestly claim that the disinclination was scornful/derisive when it was explained
as due to individual circumstances (e.g. insufficient age for RMDs, employer benefits) which was
what made them de-optimal strategies to be employed at present.
Perhaps what you're thinking of as derision was in how it was noted that you had exaggerated
on your claimed magnitude of savings? Or how your misrepresenting a mere two tips as "many"?
Nope. Attention to Detail is a time-tested attribute for success in life & business: try it sometime.
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Naturally, Tommy has provided zero quantified metrics for what anyone is
supposed to be jealous of him for. Perhaps it will be stomach acidity level?
You continually obliviate on it - that is ample evidence of jealousness.
Nah, it has merely become sport to remind you of your "emperor has no clothes" personal failure.
Because no one forced you to make your 'multimillionaire' claim, yet you did so & repeated that
many times. Your attempt to rub that in the face of others has backfired on you because you've
not ever substantiated your allegation, which is why it, like you, rings empty and hollow.
Hey Lyin' Asshole, you present a PHONY E-Trade transaction and you QUESTION my veracity???
Go back to the drawing board, bozo.
Oh, look: Tommy is back to that old diversion attempt again, only this time he's tried to move from
claiming it was a "very suspicious trade confirmation" to now alleging it was a "PHONY" one.
No proof again, of course.
"Go ahead and complain that this isn't good enough, but do so by leading by example, by posting your own
purchase order record of CVX to show what the minimum disclosure resolution is that you want to see."
Instead of leading by example, Tommy vainly just posts bitter another "Grandpa Simpson" rant.
LOL! Hey Lyin' Asshole, your phony Etrade confirmation shows a price of ONE DOLLAR and NOTHING
for the quantity. Now, are you claiming that is a REAL confirmation????
And no account number either: you're just confused because the redaction of that information
was done as white on transparent, which your image viewer represented as white on white: try
opening the file in a better GIF browser/editor to better reveal where the redactions were made.
Or ask nicely what contrasting color you want it changed to .. perhaps "cowardly Tommy yellow streak"?
Since that would be too much work for Tommy, here's an update of the substantiation, with the
redactions done in Tommy Yellow so that he can't legitimately complain about not being able to
<https://www.huntzinger.com/usenet/2022-TQQQ_redacted.gif>
Meantime, back on 3 Feb, we were told: “Prices have ALREADY factored those increases in and
company profits have ABSORBED those increases, so the market is GREEN-LIGHTED for an upside
move. In other words, we have already seen the market BOTTOM.”
But it appears that the Markets have had a difficult opinion of “bottom” than Tommy …
DJIA is currently down -800, of which -500 was just today. Similarly, Tommy’s favorite of TQQQ
was at $25.52 on the 3rd, but closed today at $22.35.
TQQQ closed out the week today at $21.77
Naturally, Tommy's in hiding, having called "BOTTOM" three weeks ago.
-hh
My, My! We haven't heard from the Lyin' Asshole on this topic for SOME TIME! I wonder why? Could it be because TQQQ closed yesterday at $36.82? My gain on TQQQ is now over FIFTY PERCENT! All that the Lyin' Asshole has to show is his obviously FAKE TRADE!

And you libtards have been WAY BEHIND THE CURVE on everything else, calling for a market pullback, saying we should wait until even 2024 to reenter the market!
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Well, after yesterday's correction, seems about right to pull on Tommy's
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Meantime...
Probably time to check these again; midday 22 Aug 22
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[YTD's were as of 19 May 2022]
BCE (DIV 5.3%) +2.3% Aug --> -2.81%
BBY (DIV 3.5%) -23% Aug --> -20.43%
CVX (DIV 3.5%) +40% Aug --> +33.69%
ED (DIV 3.5%) +12% Aug --> +18.11%
ENB (DIV 6%) +16% Aug --> +13.26%
JNJ (DIV 2.4%) +3.3% Aug --> -0.32%
LMT (DIV 2.6%) +22% Aug --> +25.64%
NVS (DIV 2.5%) +1.8% Aug --> -2.74%
VTRS (DIV 4.5%) -14% Aug --> -22.55%
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Total portfolio slice is still net positive 'YTD', by +6.1%, which contrasts ever
so slightly to the likes of Tommy's TQQQ being down by a mere -66%.
YTD is still positive, at +4.65% whereas TQQQ at $32.4 is in the red at -62% ... although
to be fair, that is a four point recovery since May. Of course, this +4.65% is before
dividends (roughly +2.5%), so one could say that it is effectively at +7% YTD.
Been way too long since reporting back on this...
BCE (DIV 5.3%) -14%
BBY (DIV 3.5%) -18%
CVX (DIV 3.5%) +44%
ED (DIV 3.5%) +13%
ENB (DIV 6%) +1%
JNJ (DIV 2.4%) +5%
LMT (DIV 2.6%) +39%
NVS (DIV 2.5%) +4%
VTRS (DIV 4.5%) -18%
Total portfolio slice is still net positive 'YTD', by +5.54% on Equities values...plus, of
course, the dividends spun off...roughly another +3.77%, so approx. +9% paper return.
+7.34% appreciation, plus the dividends, so roughly a 10%-11% YoY return.
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Apologies, forgot to include the comparison back to TQQQ for Tommy.
TQQQ (close yesterday) at $18.27 ... down -17% since Tommy's claimed purchase of it
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.sport.golf/c/ooGucHaSsFI/m/DpkT6VenAwAJ>
Tommy's silent, of course, as TQQQ's back under $22/share.
-hh
Well, let's look at how Lyin' Asshole's strategy played out.
I figured you'd crawl back as soon as you were 'safely' above water.
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The Fed announced today a 0.25% rate hike and indicated they were close to the end of rate hikes.
"The Fed Raises Rates a Quarter Point and Signals More Ahead
America’s central bank has shifted into a new phase, raising rates
more slowly as inflation shows signs of moderating."
<https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/01/business/federal-reserve-interest-rates.html>
It includes a statement of "...“a couple more” rate increases..." too.
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This is what I was anticipating, and the market responded accordingly.
TQQQ is now at 24.39, giving me about an 11% gain in less than 90 days - not bad.
So? Does that mean that you sold today?
So, you STATED that I had a 20% LOSS w/o asking me if I had sold!
"Tommy's silent, of course, as TQQQ's back under $22/share. "
Plus Tommy's silent on if he's bailed out of TQQQ with just his 11% gain (before STCG taxes).
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WHY don't you maintain the same standards????
Sorry, but I *exceed* the standards that you use, by actually substantiating statements.
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More importantly, the trajectory going forward is much more likely to be up than down.
Yes, that's what the Fed said: "...“a couple more” rate increases...".
Or did you mean to suggest something else?
Hey Lyin' Asshole, I'm going to give you the MOST IMPORTANT piece of advice yet: the Fed is near
the end of their rate increases and the market KNOWS that. Prices have ALREADY factored those
increases in and company profits have ABSORBED those increases, so the market is GREEN-LIGHTED
for an upside move. In other words, we have already seen the market BOTTOM. Is that clear enough
for your peanut-sized brain??????
So you've definitively called the bottom. Does this also mean that you're also saying that there will be
no recession in 2023 either?
Hmmm...
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Meanwhile, the Lyin' Asshole has his thumb up his ass, not knowing what to do, but what else is new?
Golly, looks like Mr. Senile forgot that someone mentioned buying TQQQ in December
Hey LA, did you BUY TQQQ at that price? I DOUBT IT!!!!
<http://huntzinger.com/usenet/2022-TQQQ_redacted.gif>
Granted, it is redacted, but it is nevertheless sufficient to show a TQQQ purchase in December, at
a price whose first digit is a "1" instead of a "2". Go ahead and complain that this isn't good enough,
but do so by leading by example, by posting your own purchase order record of CVX to show what
the minimum disclosure resolution is that you want to see.
Still waiting.
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12/27/22 update: TQQQ low & close: $16.72 & $16.84
Looks like I can expect some paperwork in the mail from a certain limit order...
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Hmmm...that suggests something north of +40%, doesn't it?
Not for you because you DIDN'T BUY IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Except for how any TQQQ purchase below $20.00 versus your $24.39 price point
would be at least a +22% gain.
If PP = $19.50 --> +25%
If PP = $19.00 --> +28%
If PP = $18.50 --> +32%
If PP = $18.00 --> +36%
If PP = $17.50 --> +39%
If PP = $17.00 --> +43%
If PP = $16.50 --> +48%
etc
Meantime, today's jobs report was too strong, so Markets are dropping because they know
that that's meat for the Federal Reserve to keep on increasing rates for longer = a Tommy oops!
Without nitpicking, ...
This would be the part where Tommy tries to ignore that his call that the Feds have ended making
rate hikes is looking quite incorrect at the end of last week. Plus Tommy's silent on if he's bailed
out of TQQQ with just a 11% gain (before STCG taxes).
... its good to see that you followed my advice FOR ONCE!
Nah, the TQQQ holdings are insignificant: they're worth the entertainment value of seeing you
squirm, because no matter what brag you try to make, you know someone else is doing better than you.
The Lyin' Asshole's string of lies is unbroken: WHEN did I say that the Fed had ENDED their rate hikes?
"....indicated they were close to the end of rate hikes."
That's in conjunction and context with how you've not denied having also called the bottom already, as well as
the elaborations on how a bottom occurs only a few months before the last rate hikes. Together, it points to
the Fed's March meeting as being the last rate hike as being what you meant - - at the time you said it.
Naturally, now that the Fed has clearly said otherwise, you're trying to change what you meant, particularly
particularly since the June and even May Fed meeting dates are already too far into 2023 for a reasonable
expectation of a Fed rate cut occurring 2023, because any sort of Fed rates hold duration would be negated.
Meantime, you're silent on if you already bailed out of TQQQ at its 11% gain point (before STCG taxes).
Ditto on you providing clarity on if you're also saying that there will be no recession in 2023 either.
As well as your mystery purchase record on CVX....oh, gosh on INTC too (purchased claimed prior to 11 Jan 22)
31 Dec 21: $48.94**
11 Jan 22: $52.46
11 Feb 23: $27.80
** - adjusted close; lowest daily non-adjusted low for 10/31/21 through 1/11/22 was $49.18
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Hey Asshole, at least you ADMIT that I didn't say the Fed was DONE with rate hikes.
There are, at least, two more rate hikes in the works, PROBABLY (note I am not declaring this) 0.25% each.
Oh, so it’s “at least two”? That’s what’s now supposed to be “close”? This pushes out the first
meeting with no expected rate hike to mid-June, so where does that now place your bottom,
for which you’ve previously said “I am saying that the market is going thru a bottoming process
this quarter.”, which ends in just 51 days? Trying to copy my 1H comment?
So, now you are arguing about what "close" means. Sorry, but your sorry ass
doesn't deserve an education in that.
Nope, just illustrating how you’re trying to [use] a rubber ruler…again. And got caught…again.
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We have ALREADY had our recession which you profoundly waffled about.
No, NBER is the authority on that, and they’ve not made that call. Sorry.
Sorry, but we WERE.
Nope. No matter what you want to believe, NBER has not made that determination.
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I have ALREADY put you on notice that I AM NOT informing you of all my trades, …
Non sequitur, as you’ve been on notice yourself that you can’t make any claims on any
trades that you’ve not posted prior adequate notice. Thus, you’ll no longer be able to
cherry-pick from your entire portfolio to find a winner to claim…unless you choose to
disclose your entire portfolio, of course.
You are a PIECE OF WORK, Asshole! I owe you exactly NOTHING, which is exactly
what you DESERVE. You are a loser living a life of quiet desperation that looks at
diminishing those that have done better than you.
Golly, that reflection you see of yourself in the mirror really is quite ugly, isn’t it?
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… just as YOU are not doing the same (and, now, declaring that you bought TQQQ
with a very suspicious trade confirmation).
Nah, you’ve already been told to provide an example of your own trades with the level
of detail you’re trying to complain about not getting from others…and have not done so.
Silence from Tommy.
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Let's face it: you're jealous of my success and want to belittle it at every opportunity.
So be it - you are welcome to wallow in your proven mediocrity.
Sorry, but you do that all on your own and to yourself. No one here has any reason
to be in the least jealous of your little goldfish bowl’s echo chamber.
Yeah, right - coming from a loser.
Nah, the problem you have Tommy is that I’ve not tried to brag as much as you, so
you’re stuck in the “absence of evidence is not evidence of absence” logical trap.
Plus even when I’ve dropped clues, you’ve been unable and/or unwilling to
comprehend and/or acknowledge their significance. Your loss, not mine.
BTW, a retired friend sent me these two links recently; first is an illustration
whereas the second is a quasi-analysis…a bit overly broad, but nevertheless
< https://www.bogleheads.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=396981&sid=7b59bcd7747813e9852733284ece221f>
< https://bowtiedbull.substack.com/p/going-through-levels-of-wealth>
Quick reads both.
[quote]
Common tells of the Upper Middle Class belief system
* Absolute obsession with being seen as important...
* Insecurity...
* Passive aggressive behavior...Constant emphasis on how “high they are up the chain”.
* Obsession with “comp”....common for them to prod and try to figure out how much you make...
[/quote]
YAAAWWWWWNNNNNNNN...
“Cry harder”, Tommy.
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Your attempt at psychoanalysis is PATHETIC, Lyin' Asshole.
[quote]
* Absolute obsession with being seen as important...
* Insecurity...
* Passive aggressive behavior...Constant emphasis on how “high they are up the chain”.
* Obsession with “comp”....common for them to prod and try to figure out how much you make...
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Yes, it is.
Nope: <https://bowtiedbull.substack.com/p/going-through-levels-of-wealth>
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Shoot the messenger much?
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The bottom line is the same: you just live a miserable life jealous of others
who have succeeded where you have failed.
YA instance of a (self-alleged) RSG “multimillionaire” being vain & bitter.
Hardly. I am neither vain nor bitter.
"...he vainly whined, so bitterly that his flecks of spittle tarnished the basement's linoleum floor." /s
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On the contrary, I have tried to pass the secret of my success to you libtards and have
been met with nothing but scorn and derision (which is why you dudes aren't successful).
Incorrect: your so-called 'secrets' weren't secrets at all, nor even about how to be successful
in business. They were just a couple of already-known strategies for personal income taxes.
FYI, it is hard to honestly claim that the disinclination was scornful/derisive when it was explained
as due to individual circumstances (e.g. insufficient age for RMDs, employer benefits) which was
what made them de-optimal strategies to be employed at present.
Perhaps what you're thinking of as derision was in how it was noted that you had exaggerated
on your claimed magnitude of savings? Or how your misrepresenting a mere two tips as "many"?
Nope. Attention to Detail is a time-tested attribute for success in life & business: try it sometime.
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Naturally, Tommy has provided zero quantified metrics for what anyone is
supposed to be jealous of him for. Perhaps it will be stomach acidity level?
You continually obliviate on it - that is ample evidence of jealousness.
Nah, it has merely become sport to remind you of your "emperor has no clothes" personal failure.
Because no one forced you to make your 'multimillionaire' claim, yet you did so & repeated that
many times. Your attempt to rub that in the face of others has backfired on you because you've
not ever substantiated your allegation, which is why it, like you, rings empty and hollow.
Hey Lyin' Asshole, you present a PHONY E-Trade transaction and you QUESTION my veracity???
Go back to the drawing board, bozo.
Oh, look: Tommy is back to that old diversion attempt again, only this time he's tried to move from
claiming it was a "very suspicious trade confirmation" to now alleging it was a "PHONY" one.
No proof again, of course.
"Go ahead and complain that this isn't good enough, but do so by leading by example, by posting your own
purchase order record of CVX to show what the minimum disclosure resolution is that you want to see."
Instead of leading by example, Tommy vainly just posts bitter another "Grandpa Simpson" rant.
LOL! Hey Lyin' Asshole, your phony Etrade confirmation shows a price of ONE DOLLAR and NOTHING
for the quantity. Now, are you claiming that is a REAL confirmation????
And no account number either: you're just confused because the redaction of that information
was done as white on transparent, which your image viewer represented as white on white: try
opening the file in a better GIF browser/editor to better reveal where the redactions were made.
Or ask nicely what contrasting color you want it changed to .. perhaps "cowardly Tommy yellow streak"?
Since that would be too much work for Tommy, here's an update of the substantiation, with the
redactions done in Tommy Yellow so that he can't legitimately complain about not being able to
<https://www.huntzinger.com/usenet/2022-TQQQ_redacted.gif>
Meantime, back on 3 Feb, we were told: “Prices have ALREADY factored those increases in and
company profits have ABSORBED those increases, so the market is GREEN-LIGHTED for an upside
move. In other words, we have already seen the market BOTTOM.”
But it appears that the Markets have had a difficult opinion of “bottom” than Tommy …
DJIA is currently down -800, of which -500 was just today. Similarly, Tommy’s favorite of TQQQ
was at $25.52 on the 3rd, but closed today at $22.35.
TQQQ closed out the week today at $21.77
Naturally, Tommy's in hiding, having called "BOTTOM" three weeks ago.
My, My! We haven't heard from the Lyin' Asshole on this topic for SOME TIME!
I wonder why?
Been busy doing other stuff. Roof replacement this past week.
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Could it be because TQQQ closed yesterday at $36.82?
When it was over $80/share just eighteen months ago? Nah!
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My gain on TQQQ is now over FIFTY PERCENT!
My paper gain is bigger.
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All that the Lyin' Asshole has to show is his obviously FAKE TRADE!
Still has more substantiation than your claim.
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And you libtards have been WAY BEHIND THE CURVE on everything else,
calling for a market pullback, saying we should wait until even 2024 to
reenter the market!
Not what was actually said now, wasn’t it?

Especially since the historical trend is for the market bottom to be months after
the last Fed rate hike, and the Fed is coy on if they’re going to hike again later
this month or not, thanks to the stronger than expected jobs report last Friday.

-hh
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Well, after yesterday's correction, seems about right to pull on Tommy's
chain again on how well his 'TQQQ' is doing.
Meantime...
Probably time to check these again; midday 22 Aug 22
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[YTD's were as of 19 May 2022]
BCE (DIV 5.3%) +2.3% Aug --> -2.81%
BBY (DIV 3.5%) -23% Aug --> -20.43%
CVX (DIV 3.5%) +40% Aug --> +33.69%
ED (DIV 3.5%) +12% Aug --> +18.11%
ENB (DIV 6%) +16% Aug --> +13.26%
JNJ (DIV 2.4%) +3.3% Aug --> -0.32%
LMT (DIV 2.6%) +22% Aug --> +25.64%
NVS (DIV 2.5%) +1.8% Aug --> -2.74%
VTRS (DIV 4.5%) -14% Aug --> -22.55%
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Total portfolio slice is still net positive 'YTD', by +6.1%, which contrasts ever
so slightly to the likes of Tommy's TQQQ being down by a mere -66%.
YTD is still positive, at +4.65% whereas TQQQ at $32.4 is in the red at -62% ... although
to be fair, that is a four point recovery since May. Of course, this +4.65% is before
dividends (roughly +2.5%), so one could say that it is effectively at +7% YTD.
Been way too long since reporting back on this...
BCE (DIV 5.3%) -14%
BBY (DIV 3.5%) -18%
CVX (DIV 3.5%) +44%
ED (DIV 3.5%) +13%
ENB (DIV 6%) +1%
JNJ (DIV 2.4%) +5%
LMT (DIV 2.6%) +39%
NVS (DIV 2.5%) +4%
VTRS (DIV 4.5%) -18%
Total portfolio slice is still net positive 'YTD', by +5.54% on Equities values...plus, of
course, the dividends spun off...roughly another +3.77%, so approx. +9% paper return.
+7.34% appreciation, plus the dividends, so roughly a 10%-11% YoY return.
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Apologies, forgot to include the comparison back to TQQQ for Tommy.
TQQQ (close yesterday) at $18.27 ... down -17% since Tommy's claimed purchase of it
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.sport.golf/c/ooGucHaSsFI/m/DpkT6VenAwAJ>
Tommy's silent, of course, as TQQQ's back under $22/share.
-hh
Well, let's look at how Lyin' Asshole's strategy played out.
I figured you'd crawl back as soon as you were 'safely' above water.
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The Fed announced today a 0.25% rate hike and indicated they were close to the end of rate hikes.
"The Fed Raises Rates a Quarter Point and Signals More Ahead
America’s central bank has shifted into a new phase, raising rates
more slowly as inflation shows signs of moderating."
<https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/01/business/federal-reserve-interest-rates.html>
It includes a statement of "...“a couple more” rate increases..." too.
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This is what I was anticipating, and the market responded accordingly.
TQQQ is now at 24.39, giving me about an 11% gain in less than 90 days - not bad.
So? Does that mean that you sold today?
So, you STATED that I had a 20% LOSS w/o asking me if I had sold!
"Tommy's silent, of course, as TQQQ's back under $22/share. "
Plus Tommy's silent on if he's bailed out of TQQQ with just his 11% gain (before STCG taxes).
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WHY don't you maintain the same standards????
Sorry, but I *exceed* the standards that you use, by actually substantiating statements.
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More importantly, the trajectory going forward is much more likely to be up than down.
Yes, that's what the Fed said: "...“a couple more” rate increases...".
Or did you mean to suggest something else?
Hey Lyin' Asshole, I'm going to give you the MOST IMPORTANT piece of advice yet: the Fed is near
the end of their rate increases and the market KNOWS that. Prices have ALREADY factored those
increases in and company profits have ABSORBED those increases, so the market is GREEN-LIGHTED
for an upside move. In other words, we have already seen the market BOTTOM. Is that clear enough
for your peanut-sized brain??????
So you've definitively called the bottom. Does this also mean that you're also saying that there will be
no recession in 2023 either?
Hmmm...
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Meanwhile, the Lyin' Asshole has his thumb up his ass, not knowing what to do, but what else is new?
Golly, looks like Mr. Senile forgot that someone mentioned buying TQQQ in December
Hey LA, did you BUY TQQQ at that price? I DOUBT IT!!!!
<http://huntzinger.com/usenet/2022-TQQQ_redacted.gif>
Granted, it is redacted, but it is nevertheless sufficient to show a TQQQ purchase in December, at
a price whose first digit is a "1" instead of a "2". Go ahead and complain that this isn't good enough,
but do so by leading by example, by posting your own purchase order record of CVX to show what
the minimum disclosure resolution is that you want to see.
Still waiting.
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12/27/22 update: TQQQ low & close: $16.72 & $16.84
Looks like I can expect some paperwork in the mail from a certain limit order...
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Hmmm...that suggests something north of +40%, doesn't it?
Not for you because you DIDN'T BUY IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Except for how any TQQQ purchase below $20.00 versus your $24.39 price point
would be at least a +22% gain.
If PP = $19.50 --> +25%
If PP = $19.00 --> +28%
If PP = $18.50 --> +32%
If PP = $18.00 --> +36%
If PP = $17.50 --> +39%
If PP = $17.00 --> +43%
If PP = $16.50 --> +48%
etc
Meantime, today's jobs report was too strong, so Markets are dropping because they know
that that's meat for the Federal Reserve to keep on increasing rates for longer = a Tommy oops!
Without nitpicking, ...
This would be the part where Tommy tries to ignore that his call that the Feds have ended making
rate hikes is looking quite incorrect at the end of last week. Plus Tommy's silent on if he's bailed
out of TQQQ with just a 11% gain (before STCG taxes).
... its good to see that you followed my advice FOR ONCE!
Nah, the TQQQ holdings are insignificant: they're worth the entertainment value of seeing you
squirm, because no matter what brag you try to make, you know someone else is doing better than you.
The Lyin' Asshole's string of lies is unbroken: WHEN did I say that the Fed had ENDED their rate hikes?
"....indicated they were close to the end of rate hikes."
That's in conjunction and context with how you've not denied having also called the bottom already, as well as
the elaborations on how a bottom occurs only a few months before the last rate hikes. Together, it points to
the Fed's March meeting as being the last rate hike as being what you meant - - at the time you said it.
Naturally, now that the Fed has clearly said otherwise, you're trying to change what you meant, particularly
particularly since the June and even May Fed meeting dates are already too far into 2023 for a reasonable
expectation of a Fed rate cut occurring 2023, because any sort of Fed rates hold duration would be negated.
Meantime, you're silent on if you already bailed out of TQQQ at its 11% gain point (before STCG taxes).
Ditto on you providing clarity on if you're also saying that there will be no recession in 2023 either.
As well as your mystery purchase record on CVX....oh, gosh on INTC too (purchased claimed prior to 11 Jan 22)
31 Dec 21: $48.94**
11 Jan 22: $52.46
11 Feb 23: $27.80
** - adjusted close; lowest daily non-adjusted low for 10/31/21 through 1/11/22 was $49.18
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Hey Asshole, at least you ADMIT that I didn't say the Fed was DONE with rate hikes.
There are, at least, two more rate hikes in the works, PROBABLY (note I am not declaring this) 0.25% each.
Oh, so it’s “at least two”? That’s what’s now supposed to be “close”? This pushes out the first
meeting with no expected rate hike to mid-June, so where does that now place your bottom,
for which you’ve previously said “I am saying that the market is going thru a bottoming process
this quarter.”, which ends in just 51 days? Trying to copy my 1H comment?
So, now you are arguing about what "close" means. Sorry, but your sorry ass
doesn't deserve an education in that.
Nope, just illustrating how you’re trying to [use] a rubber ruler…again. And got caught…again.
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We have ALREADY had our recession which you profoundly waffled about.
No, NBER is the authority on that, and they’ve not made that call. Sorry.
Sorry, but we WERE.
Nope. No matter what you want to believe, NBER has not made that determination.
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I have ALREADY put you on notice that I AM NOT informing you of all my trades, …
Non sequitur, as you’ve been on notice yourself that you can’t make any claims on any
trades that you’ve not posted prior adequate notice. Thus, you’ll no longer be able to
cherry-pick from your entire portfolio to find a winner to claim…unless you choose to
disclose your entire portfolio, of course.
You are a PIECE OF WORK, Asshole! I owe you exactly NOTHING, which is exactly
what you DESERVE. You are a loser living a life of quiet desperation that looks at
diminishing those that have done better than you.
Golly, that reflection you see of yourself in the mirror really is quite ugly, isn’t it?
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… just as YOU are not doing the same (and, now, declaring that you bought TQQQ
with a very suspicious trade confirmation).
Nah, you’ve already been told to provide an example of your own trades with the level
of detail you’re trying to complain about not getting from others…and have not done so.
Silence from Tommy.
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Let's face it: you're jealous of my success and want to belittle it at every opportunity.
So be it - you are welcome to wallow in your proven mediocrity.
Sorry, but you do that all on your own and to yourself. No one here has any reason
to be in the least jealous of your little goldfish bowl’s echo chamber.
Yeah, right - coming from a loser.
Nah, the problem you have Tommy is that I’ve not tried to brag as much as you, so
you’re stuck in the “absence of evidence is not evidence of absence” logical trap.
Plus even when I’ve dropped clues, you’ve been unable and/or unwilling to
comprehend and/or acknowledge their significance. Your loss, not mine.
BTW, a retired friend sent me these two links recently; first is an illustration
whereas the second is a quasi-analysis…a bit overly broad, but nevertheless
< https://www.bogleheads.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=396981&sid=7b59bcd7747813e9852733284ece221f>
< https://bowtiedbull.substack.com/p/going-through-levels-of-wealth>
Quick reads both.
[quote]
Common tells of the Upper Middle Class belief system
* Absolute obsession with being seen as important...
* Insecurity...
* Passive aggressive behavior...Constant emphasis on how “high they are up the chain”.
* Obsession with “comp”....common for them to prod and try to figure out how much you make...
[/quote]
YAAAWWWWWNNNNNNNN...
“Cry harder”, Tommy.
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Your attempt at psychoanalysis is PATHETIC, Lyin' Asshole.
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* Absolute obsession with being seen as important...
* Insecurity...
* Passive aggressive behavior...Constant emphasis on how “high they are up the chain”.
* Obsession with “comp”....common for them to prod and try to figure out how much you make...
[/quote]
Yes, it is.
Nope: <https://bowtiedbull.substack.com/p/going-through-levels-of-wealth>
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Shoot the messenger much?
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The bottom line is the same: you just live a miserable life jealous of others
who have succeeded where you have failed.
YA instance of a (self-alleged) RSG “multimillionaire” being vain & bitter.
Hardly. I am neither vain nor bitter.
"...he vainly whined, so bitterly that his flecks of spittle tarnished the basement's linoleum floor." /s
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On the contrary, I have tried to pass the secret of my success to you libtards and have
been met with nothing but scorn and derision (which is why you dudes aren't successful).
Incorrect: your so-called 'secrets' weren't secrets at all, nor even about how to be successful
in business. They were just a couple of already-known strategies for personal income taxes.
FYI, it is hard to honestly claim that the disinclination was scornful/derisive when it was explained
as due to individual circumstances (e.g. insufficient age for RMDs, employer benefits) which was
what made them de-optimal strategies to be employed at present.
Perhaps what you're thinking of as derision was in how it was noted that you had exaggerated
on your claimed magnitude of savings? Or how your misrepresenting a mere two tips as "many"?
Nope. Attention to Detail is a time-tested attribute for success in life & business: try it sometime.
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Naturally, Tommy has provided zero quantified metrics for what anyone is
supposed to be jealous of him for. Perhaps it will be stomach acidity level?
You continually obliviate on it - that is ample evidence of jealousness.
Nah, it has merely become sport to remind you of your "emperor has no clothes" personal failure.
Because no one forced you to make your 'multimillionaire' claim, yet you did so & repeated that
many times. Your attempt to rub that in the face of others has backfired on you because you've
not ever substantiated your allegation, which is why it, like you, rings empty and hollow.
Hey Lyin' Asshole, you present a PHONY E-Trade transaction and you QUESTION my veracity???
Go back to the drawing board, bozo.
Oh, look: Tommy is back to that old diversion attempt again, only this time he's tried to move from
claiming it was a "very suspicious trade confirmation" to now alleging it was a "PHONY" one.
No proof again, of course.
"Go ahead and complain that this isn't good enough, but do so by leading by example, by posting your own
purchase order record of CVX to show what the minimum disclosure resolution is that you want to see."
Instead of leading by example, Tommy vainly just posts bitter another "Grandpa Simpson" rant.
LOL! Hey Lyin' Asshole, your phony Etrade confirmation shows a price of ONE DOLLAR and NOTHING
for the quantity. Now, are you claiming that is a REAL confirmation????
And no account number either: you're just confused because the redaction of that information
was done as white on transparent, which your image viewer represented as white on white: try
opening the file in a better GIF browser/editor to better reveal where the redactions were made.
Or ask nicely what contrasting color you want it changed to .. perhaps "cowardly Tommy yellow streak"?
Since that would be too much work for Tommy, here's an update of the substantiation, with the
redactions done in Tommy Yellow so that he can't legitimately complain about not being able to
<https://www.huntzinger.com/usenet/2022-TQQQ_redacted.gif>
Meantime, back on 3 Feb, we were told: “Prices have ALREADY factored those increases in and
company profits have ABSORBED those increases, so the market is GREEN-LIGHTED for an upside
move. In other words, we have already seen the market BOTTOM.”
But it appears that the Markets have had a difficult opinion of “bottom” than Tommy …
DJIA is currently down -800, of which -500 was just today. Similarly, Tommy’s favorite of TQQQ
was at $25.52 on the 3rd, but closed today at $22.35.
TQQQ closed out the week today at $21.77
Naturally, Tommy's in hiding, having called "BOTTOM" three weeks ago.
My, My! We haven't heard from the Lyin' Asshole on this topic for SOME TIME!
I wonder why?
Been busy doing other stuff. Roof replacement this past week.
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Could it be because TQQQ closed yesterday at $36.82?
When it was over $80/share just eighteen months ago? Nah!
Hey you IDIOT - that is not what you were saying a couple of months ago.
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My gain on TQQQ is now over FIFTY PERCENT!
My paper gain is bigger.
You can take your "paper gain" and wipe your ASS with it as that is ALL that it is good for!
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All that the Lyin' Asshole has to show is his obviously FAKE TRADE!
Still has more substantiation than your claim.
It is FAKE and you KNOW IT! I posted my trade when I made it. How MUCH do you want to bet that it is FAKE?
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And you libtards have been WAY BEHIND THE CURVE on everything else,
calling for a market pullback, saying we should wait until even 2024 to
reenter the market!
Not what was actually said now, wasn’t it?
Pretty much was, asshole.
Especially since the historical trend is for the market bottom to be months after
the last Fed rate hike, and the Fed is coy on if they’re going to hike again later
this month or not, thanks to the stronger than expected jobs report last Friday.
How much have you LOST with that bit of so-called "intelligence?"
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Well, after yesterday's correction, seems about right to pull on Tommy's
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[YTD's were as of 19 May 2022]
BCE (DIV 5.3%) +2.3% Aug --> -2.81%
BBY (DIV 3.5%) -23% Aug --> -20.43%
CVX (DIV 3.5%) +40% Aug --> +33.69%
ED (DIV 3.5%) +12% Aug --> +18.11%
ENB (DIV 6%) +16% Aug --> +13.26%
JNJ (DIV 2.4%) +3.3% Aug --> -0.32%
LMT (DIV 2.6%) +22% Aug --> +25.64%
NVS (DIV 2.5%) +1.8% Aug --> -2.74%
VTRS (DIV 4.5%) -14% Aug --> -22.55%
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Total portfolio slice is still net positive 'YTD', by +6.1%, which contrasts ever
so slightly to the likes of Tommy's TQQQ being down by a mere -66%.
YTD is still positive, at +4.65% whereas TQQQ at $32.4 is in the red at -62% ... although
to be fair, that is a four point recovery since May. Of course, this +4.65% is before
dividends (roughly +2.5%), so one could say that it is effectively at +7% YTD.
Been way too long since reporting back on this...
BCE (DIV 5.3%) -14%
BBY (DIV 3.5%) -18%
CVX (DIV 3.5%) +44%
ED (DIV 3.5%) +13%
ENB (DIV 6%) +1%
JNJ (DIV 2.4%) +5%
LMT (DIV 2.6%) +39%
NVS (DIV 2.5%) +4%
VTRS (DIV 4.5%) -18%
Total portfolio slice is still net positive 'YTD', by +5.54% on Equities values...plus, of
course, the dividends spun off...roughly another +3.77%, so approx. +9% paper return.
+7.34% appreciation, plus the dividends, so roughly a 10%-11% YoY return.
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Apologies, forgot to include the comparison back to TQQQ for Tommy.
TQQQ (close yesterday) at $18.27 ... down -17% since Tommy's claimed purchase of it
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.sport.golf/c/ooGucHaSsFI/m/DpkT6VenAwAJ>
Tommy's silent, of course, as TQQQ's back under $22/share.
-hh
Well, let's look at how Lyin' Asshole's strategy played out.
I figured you'd crawl back as soon as you were 'safely' above water.
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The Fed announced today a 0.25% rate hike and indicated they were close to the end of rate hikes.
"The Fed Raises Rates a Quarter Point and Signals More Ahead
America’s central bank has shifted into a new phase, raising rates
more slowly as inflation shows signs of moderating."
<https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/01/business/federal-reserve-interest-rates.html>
It includes a statement of "...“a couple more” rate increases..." too.
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This is what I was anticipating, and the market responded accordingly.
TQQQ is now at 24.39, giving me about an 11% gain in less than 90 days - not bad.
So? Does that mean that you sold today?
So, you STATED that I had a 20% LOSS w/o asking me if I had sold!
"Tommy's silent, of course, as TQQQ's back under $22/share. "
Plus Tommy's silent on if he's bailed out of TQQQ with just his 11% gain (before STCG taxes).
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WHY don't you maintain the same standards????
Sorry, but I *exceed* the standards that you use, by actually substantiating statements.
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More importantly, the trajectory going forward is much more likely to be up than down.
Yes, that's what the Fed said: "...“a couple more” rate increases...".
Or did you mean to suggest something else?
Hey Lyin' Asshole, I'm going to give you the MOST IMPORTANT piece of advice yet: the Fed is near
the end of their rate increases and the market KNOWS that. Prices have ALREADY factored those
increases in and company profits have ABSORBED those increases, so the market is GREEN-LIGHTED
for an upside move. In other words, we have already seen the market BOTTOM. Is that clear enough
for your peanut-sized brain??????
So you've definitively called the bottom. Does this also mean that you're also saying that there will be
no recession in 2023 either?
Hmmm...
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Meanwhile, the Lyin' Asshole has his thumb up his ass, not knowing what to do, but what else is new?
Golly, looks like Mr. Senile forgot that someone mentioned buying TQQQ in December
Hey LA, did you BUY TQQQ at that price? I DOUBT IT!!!!
<http://huntzinger.com/usenet/2022-TQQQ_redacted.gif>
Granted, it is redacted, but it is nevertheless sufficient to show a TQQQ purchase in December, at
a price whose first digit is a "1" instead of a "2". Go ahead and complain that this isn't good enough,
but do so by leading by example, by posting your own purchase order record of CVX to show what
the minimum disclosure resolution is that you want to see.
Still waiting.
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12/27/22 update: TQQQ low & close: $16.72 & $16.84
Looks like I can expect some paperwork in the mail from a certain limit order...
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Hmmm...that suggests something north of +40%, doesn't it?
Not for you because you DIDN'T BUY IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Except for how any TQQQ purchase below $20.00 versus your $24.39 price point
would be at least a +22% gain.
If PP = $19.50 --> +25%
If PP = $19.00 --> +28%
If PP = $18.50 --> +32%
If PP = $18.00 --> +36%
If PP = $17.50 --> +39%
If PP = $17.00 --> +43%
If PP = $16.50 --> +48%
etc
Meantime, today's jobs report was too strong, so Markets are dropping because they know
that that's meat for the Federal Reserve to keep on increasing rates for longer = a Tommy oops!
Without nitpicking, ...
This would be the part where Tommy tries to ignore that his call that the Feds have ended making
rate hikes is looking quite incorrect at the end of last week. Plus Tommy's silent on if he's bailed
out of TQQQ with just a 11% gain (before STCG taxes).
... its good to see that you followed my advice FOR ONCE!
Nah, the TQQQ holdings are insignificant: they're worth the entertainment value of seeing you
squirm, because no matter what brag you try to make, you know someone else is doing better than you.
The Lyin' Asshole's string of lies is unbroken: WHEN did I say that the Fed had ENDED their rate hikes?
"....indicated they were close to the end of rate hikes."
That's in conjunction and context with how you've not denied having also called the bottom already, as well as
the elaborations on how a bottom occurs only a few months before the last rate hikes. Together, it points to
the Fed's March meeting as being the last rate hike as being what you meant - - at the time you said it.
Naturally, now that the Fed has clearly said otherwise, you're trying to change what you meant, particularly
particularly since the June and even May Fed meeting dates are already too far into 2023 for a reasonable
expectation of a Fed rate cut occurring 2023, because any sort of Fed rates hold duration would be negated.
Meantime, you're silent on if you already bailed out of TQQQ at its 11% gain point (before STCG taxes).
Ditto on you providing clarity on if you're also saying that there will be no recession in 2023 either.
As well as your mystery purchase record on CVX....oh, gosh on INTC too (purchased claimed prior to 11 Jan 22)
31 Dec 21: $48.94**
11 Jan 22: $52.46
11 Feb 23: $27.80
** - adjusted close; lowest daily non-adjusted low for 10/31/21 through 1/11/22 was $49.18
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Hey Asshole, at least you ADMIT that I didn't say the Fed was DONE with rate hikes.
There are, at least, two more rate hikes in the works, PROBABLY (note I am not declaring this) 0.25% each.
Oh, so it’s “at least two”? That’s what’s now supposed to be “close”? This pushes out the first
meeting with no expected rate hike to mid-June, so where does that now place your bottom,
for which you’ve previously said “I am saying that the market is going thru a bottoming process
this quarter.”, which ends in just 51 days? Trying to copy my 1H comment?
So, now you are arguing about what "close" means. Sorry, but your sorry ass
doesn't deserve an education in that.
Nope, just illustrating how you’re trying to [use] a rubber ruler…again. And got caught…again.
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We have ALREADY had our recession which you profoundly waffled about.
No, NBER is the authority on that, and they’ve not made that call. Sorry.
Sorry, but we WERE.
Nope. No matter what you want to believe, NBER has not made that determination.
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I have ALREADY put you on notice that I AM NOT informing you of all my trades, …
Non sequitur, as you’ve been on notice yourself that you can’t make any claims on any
trades that you’ve not posted prior adequate notice. Thus, you’ll no longer be able to
cherry-pick from your entire portfolio to find a winner to claim…unless you choose to
disclose your entire portfolio, of course.
You are a PIECE OF WORK, Asshole! I owe you exactly NOTHING, which is exactly
what you DESERVE. You are a loser living a life of quiet desperation that looks at
diminishing those that have done better than you.
Golly, that reflection you see of yourself in the mirror really is quite ugly, isn’t it?
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… just as YOU are not doing the same (and, now, declaring that you bought TQQQ
with a very suspicious trade confirmation).
Nah, you’ve already been told to provide an example of your own trades with the level
of detail you’re trying to complain about not getting from others…and have not done so.
Silence from Tommy.
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Let's face it: you're jealous of my success and want to belittle it at every opportunity.
So be it - you are welcome to wallow in your proven mediocrity.
Sorry, but you do that all on your own and to yourself. No one here has any reason
to be in the least jealous of your little goldfish bowl’s echo chamber.
Yeah, right - coming from a loser.
Nah, the problem you have Tommy is that I’ve not tried to brag as much as you, so
you’re stuck in the “absence of evidence is not evidence of absence” logical trap.
Plus even when I’ve dropped clues, you’ve been unable and/or unwilling to
comprehend and/or acknowledge their significance. Your loss, not mine.
BTW, a retired friend sent me these two links recently; first is an illustration
whereas the second is a quasi-analysis…a bit overly broad, but nevertheless
< https://www.bogleheads.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=396981&sid=7b59bcd7747813e9852733284ece221f>
< https://bowtiedbull.substack.com/p/going-through-levels-of-wealth>
Quick reads both.
[quote]
Common tells of the Upper Middle Class belief system
* Absolute obsession with being seen as important...
* Insecurity...
* Passive aggressive behavior...Constant emphasis on how “high they are up the chain”.
* Obsession with “comp”....common for them to prod and try to figure out how much you make...
[/quote]
YAAAWWWWWNNNNNNNN...
“Cry harder”, Tommy.
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Your attempt at psychoanalysis is PATHETIC, Lyin' Asshole.
[quote]
* Absolute obsession with being seen as important...
* Insecurity...
* Passive aggressive behavior...Constant emphasis on how “high they are up the chain”.
* Obsession with “comp”....common for them to prod and try to figure out how much you make...
[/quote]
Yes, it is.
Nope: <https://bowtiedbull.substack.com/p/going-through-levels-of-wealth>
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Shoot the messenger much?
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The bottom line is the same: you just live a miserable life jealous of others
who have succeeded where you have failed.
YA instance of a (self-alleged) RSG “multimillionaire” being vain & bitter.
Hardly. I am neither vain nor bitter.
"...he vainly whined, so bitterly that his flecks of spittle tarnished the basement's linoleum floor." /s
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On the contrary, I have tried to pass the secret of my success to you libtards and have
been met with nothing but scorn and derision (which is why you dudes aren't successful).
Incorrect: your so-called 'secrets' weren't secrets at all, nor even about how to be successful
in business. They were just a couple of already-known strategies for personal income taxes.
FYI, it is hard to honestly claim that the disinclination was scornful/derisive when it was explained
as due to individual circumstances (e.g. insufficient age for RMDs, employer benefits) which was
what made them de-optimal strategies to be employed at present.
Perhaps what you're thinking of as derision was in how it was noted that you had exaggerated
on your claimed magnitude of savings? Or how your misrepresenting a mere two tips as "many"?
Nope. Attention to Detail is a time-tested attribute for success in life & business: try it sometime.
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Naturally, Tommy has provided zero quantified metrics for what anyone is
supposed to be jealous of him for. Perhaps it will be stomach acidity level?
You continually obliviate on it - that is ample evidence of jealousness.
Nah, it has merely become sport to remind you of your "emperor has no clothes" personal failure.
Because no one forced you to make your 'multimillionaire' claim, yet you did so & repeated that
many times. Your attempt to rub that in the face of others has backfired on you because you've
not ever substantiated your allegation, which is why it, like you, rings empty and hollow.
Hey Lyin' Asshole, you present a PHONY E-Trade transaction and you QUESTION my veracity???
Go back to the drawing board, bozo.
Oh, look: Tommy is back to that old diversion attempt again, only this time he's tried to move from
claiming it was a "very suspicious trade confirmation" to now alleging it was a "PHONY" one.
No proof again, of course.
"Go ahead and complain that this isn't good enough, but do so by leading by example, by posting your own
purchase order record of CVX to show what the minimum disclosure resolution is that you want to see."
Instead of leading by example, Tommy vainly just posts bitter another "Grandpa Simpson" rant.
LOL! Hey Lyin' Asshole, your phony Etrade confirmation shows a price of ONE DOLLAR and NOTHING
for the quantity. Now, are you claiming that is a REAL confirmation????
And no account number either: you're just confused because the redaction of that information
was done as white on transparent, which your image viewer represented as white on white: try
opening the file in a better GIF browser/editor to better reveal where the redactions were made.
Or ask nicely what contrasting color you want it changed to .. perhaps "cowardly Tommy yellow streak"?
Since that would be too much work for Tommy, here's an update of the substantiation, with the
redactions done in Tommy Yellow so that he can't legitimately complain about not being able to
<https://www.huntzinger.com/usenet/2022-TQQQ_redacted.gif>
Meantime, back on 3 Feb, we were told: “Prices have ALREADY factored those increases in and
company profits have ABSORBED those increases, so the market is GREEN-LIGHTED for an upside
move. In other words, we have already seen the market BOTTOM.”
But it appears that the Markets have had a difficult opinion of “bottom” than Tommy …
DJIA is currently down -800, of which -500 was just today. Similarly, Tommy’s favorite of TQQQ
was at $25.52 on the 3rd, but closed today at $22.35.
TQQQ closed out the week today at $21.77
Naturally, Tommy's in hiding, having called "BOTTOM" three weeks ago.
My, My! We haven't heard from the Lyin' Asshole on this topic for SOME TIME!
I wonder why?
Been busy doing other stuff. Roof replacement this past week.
Pics posted!
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Could it be because TQQQ closed yesterday at $36.82?
When it was over $80/share just eighteen months ago? Nah!
Hey you IDIOT - that is not what you were saying a couple of months ago.
Gosh, that’s an amazingly vague statement. You’ll have to provide
the exact quote, along with GG URL a link to the thread for context.
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My gain on TQQQ is now over FIFTY PERCENT!
My paper gain is bigger.
You can take your "paper gain" and wipe your ASS with it as that is ALL that it is good for!
Nah, it’s valuable enough just in how it makes that vein on your forehead pop.
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All that the Lyin' Asshole has to show is his obviously FAKE TRADE!
Still has more substantiation than your claim.
It is FAKE and you KNOW IT! I posted my trade when I made it.
How MUCH do you want to bet that it is FAKE?
Well, let’s see: just how many shares of TQQQ did you buy in total?

And how much cash are you willing to put into a third party escrow,
so as to deny either party the ability to Welch on any such wager?
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And you libtards have been WAY BEHIND THE CURVE on everything else,
calling for a market pullback, saying we should wait until even 2024 to
reenter the market!
Not what was actually said now, wasn’t it?
Pretty much was, asshole.
Nope. My comment was second half 2023, possibly into 2024.
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Especially since the historical trend is for the market bottom to be months after
the last Fed rate hike, and the Fed is coy on if they’re going to hike again later
this month or not, thanks to the stronger than expected jobs report last Friday.
How much have you LOST with that bit of so-called "intelligence?"
Less than you.
Pop that forehead vein again Tommy!

-hh
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Well, after yesterday's correction, seems about right to pull on Tommy's
chain again on how well his 'TQQQ' is doing.
Meantime...
Probably time to check these again; midday 22 Aug 22
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[YTD's were as of 19 May 2022]
BCE (DIV 5.3%) +2.3% Aug --> -2.81%
BBY (DIV 3.5%) -23% Aug --> -20.43%
CVX (DIV 3.5%) +40% Aug --> +33.69%
ED (DIV 3.5%) +12% Aug --> +18.11%
ENB (DIV 6%) +16% Aug --> +13.26%
JNJ (DIV 2.4%) +3.3% Aug --> -0.32%
LMT (DIV 2.6%) +22% Aug --> +25.64%
NVS (DIV 2.5%) +1.8% Aug --> -2.74%
VTRS (DIV 4.5%) -14% Aug --> -22.55%
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Total portfolio slice is still net positive 'YTD', by +6.1%, which contrasts ever
so slightly to the likes of Tommy's TQQQ being down by a mere -66%.
YTD is still positive, at +4.65% whereas TQQQ at $32.4 is in the red at -62% ... although
to be fair, that is a four point recovery since May. Of course, this +4.65% is before
dividends (roughly +2.5%), so one could say that it is effectively at +7% YTD.
Been way too long since reporting back on this...
BCE (DIV 5.3%) -14%
BBY (DIV 3.5%) -18%
CVX (DIV 3.5%) +44%
ED (DIV 3.5%) +13%
ENB (DIV 6%) +1%
JNJ (DIV 2.4%) +5%
LMT (DIV 2.6%) +39%
NVS (DIV 2.5%) +4%
VTRS (DIV 4.5%) -18%
Total portfolio slice is still net positive 'YTD', by +5.54% on Equities values...plus, of
course, the dividends spun off...roughly another +3.77%, so approx. +9% paper return.
+7.34% appreciation, plus the dividends, so roughly a 10%-11% YoY return.
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Apologies, forgot to include the comparison back to TQQQ for Tommy.
TQQQ (close yesterday) at $18.27 ... down -17% since Tommy's claimed purchase of it
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.sport.golf/c/ooGucHaSsFI/m/DpkT6VenAwAJ>
Tommy's silent, of course, as TQQQ's back under $22/share.
-hh
Well, let's look at how Lyin' Asshole's strategy played out.
I figured you'd crawl back as soon as you were 'safely' above water.
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The Fed announced today a 0.25% rate hike and indicated they were close to the end of rate hikes.
"The Fed Raises Rates a Quarter Point and Signals More Ahead
America’s central bank has shifted into a new phase, raising rates
more slowly as inflation shows signs of moderating."
<https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/01/business/federal-reserve-interest-rates.html>
It includes a statement of "...“a couple more” rate increases..." too.
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This is what I was anticipating, and the market responded accordingly.
TQQQ is now at 24.39, giving me about an 11% gain in less than 90 days - not bad.
So? Does that mean that you sold today?
So, you STATED that I had a 20% LOSS w/o asking me if I had sold!
"Tommy's silent, of course, as TQQQ's back under $22/share. "
Plus Tommy's silent on if he's bailed out of TQQQ with just his 11% gain (before STCG taxes).
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WHY don't you maintain the same standards????
Sorry, but I *exceed* the standards that you use, by actually substantiating statements.
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More importantly, the trajectory going forward is much more likely to be up than down.
Yes, that's what the Fed said: "...“a couple more” rate increases...".
Or did you mean to suggest something else?
Hey Lyin' Asshole, I'm going to give you the MOST IMPORTANT piece of advice yet: the Fed is near
the end of their rate increases and the market KNOWS that. Prices have ALREADY factored those
increases in and company profits have ABSORBED those increases, so the market is GREEN-LIGHTED
for an upside move. In other words, we have already seen the market BOTTOM. Is that clear enough
for your peanut-sized brain??????
So you've definitively called the bottom. Does this also mean that you're also saying that there will be
no recession in 2023 either?
Hmmm...
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Meanwhile, the Lyin' Asshole has his thumb up his ass, not knowing what to do, but what else is new?
Golly, looks like Mr. Senile forgot that someone mentioned buying TQQQ in December
Hey LA, did you BUY TQQQ at that price? I DOUBT IT!!!!
<http://huntzinger.com/usenet/2022-TQQQ_redacted.gif>
Granted, it is redacted, but it is nevertheless sufficient to show a TQQQ purchase in December, at
a price whose first digit is a "1" instead of a "2". Go ahead and complain that this isn't good enough,
but do so by leading by example, by posting your own purchase order record of CVX to show what
the minimum disclosure resolution is that you want to see.
Still waiting.
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Looks like I can expect some paperwork in the mail from a certain limit order...
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Hmmm...that suggests something north of +40%, doesn't it?
Not for you because you DIDN'T BUY IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Except for how any TQQQ purchase below $20.00 versus your $24.39 price point
would be at least a +22% gain.
If PP = $19.50 --> +25%
If PP = $19.00 --> +28%
If PP = $18.50 --> +32%
If PP = $18.00 --> +36%
If PP = $17.50 --> +39%
If PP = $17.00 --> +43%
If PP = $16.50 --> +48%
etc
Meantime, today's jobs report was too strong, so Markets are dropping because they know
that that's meat for the Federal Reserve to keep on increasing rates for longer = a Tommy oops!
Without nitpicking, ...
This would be the part where Tommy tries to ignore that his call that the Feds have ended making
rate hikes is looking quite incorrect at the end of last week. Plus Tommy's silent on if he's bailed
out of TQQQ with just a 11% gain (before STCG taxes).
... its good to see that you followed my advice FOR ONCE!
Nah, the TQQQ holdings are insignificant: they're worth the entertainment value of seeing you
squirm, because no matter what brag you try to make, you know someone else is doing better than you.
The Lyin' Asshole's string of lies is unbroken: WHEN did I say that the Fed had ENDED their rate hikes?
"....indicated they were close to the end of rate hikes."
That's in conjunction and context with how you've not denied having also called the bottom already, as well as
the elaborations on how a bottom occurs only a few months before the last rate hikes. Together, it points to
the Fed's March meeting as being the last rate hike as being what you meant - - at the time you said it.
Naturally, now that the Fed has clearly said otherwise, you're trying to change what you meant, particularly
particularly since the June and even May Fed meeting dates are already too far into 2023 for a reasonable
expectation of a Fed rate cut occurring 2023, because any sort of Fed rates hold duration would be negated.
Meantime, you're silent on if you already bailed out of TQQQ at its 11% gain point (before STCG taxes).
Ditto on you providing clarity on if you're also saying that there will be no recession in 2023 either.
As well as your mystery purchase record on CVX....oh, gosh on INTC too (purchased claimed prior to 11 Jan 22)
31 Dec 21: $48.94**
11 Jan 22: $52.46
11 Feb 23: $27.80
** - adjusted close; lowest daily non-adjusted low for 10/31/21 through 1/11/22 was $49.18
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Hey Asshole, at least you ADMIT that I didn't say the Fed was DONE with rate hikes.
There are, at least, two more rate hikes in the works, PROBABLY (note I am not declaring this) 0.25% each.
Oh, so it’s “at least two”? That’s what’s now supposed to be “close”? This pushes out the first
meeting with no expected rate hike to mid-June, so where does that now place your bottom,
for which you’ve previously said “I am saying that the market is going thru a bottoming process
this quarter.”, which ends in just 51 days? Trying to copy my 1H comment?
So, now you are arguing about what "close" means. Sorry, but your sorry ass
doesn't deserve an education in that.
Nope, just illustrating how you’re trying to [use] a rubber ruler…again. And got caught…again.
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We have ALREADY had our recession which you profoundly waffled about.
No, NBER is the authority on that, and they’ve not made that call. Sorry.
Sorry, but we WERE.
Nope. No matter what you want to believe, NBER has not made that determination.
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I have ALREADY put you on notice that I AM NOT informing you of all my trades, …
Non sequitur, as you’ve been on notice yourself that you can’t make any claims on any
trades that you’ve not posted prior adequate notice. Thus, you’ll no longer be able to
cherry-pick from your entire portfolio to find a winner to claim…unless you choose to
disclose your entire portfolio, of course.
You are a PIECE OF WORK, Asshole! I owe you exactly NOTHING, which is exactly
what you DESERVE. You are a loser living a life of quiet desperation that looks at
diminishing those that have done better than you.
Golly, that reflection you see of yourself in the mirror really is quite ugly, isn’t it?
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… just as YOU are not doing the same (and, now, declaring that you bought TQQQ
with a very suspicious trade confirmation).
Nah, you’ve already been told to provide an example of your own trades with the level
of detail you’re trying to complain about not getting from others…and have not done so.
Silence from Tommy.
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Let's face it: you're jealous of my success and want to belittle it at every opportunity.
So be it - you are welcome to wallow in your proven mediocrity.
Sorry, but you do that all on your own and to yourself. No one here has any reason
to be in the least jealous of your little goldfish bowl’s echo chamber.
Yeah, right - coming from a loser.
Nah, the problem you have Tommy is that I’ve not tried to brag as much as you, so
you’re stuck in the “absence of evidence is not evidence of absence” logical trap.
Plus even when I’ve dropped clues, you’ve been unable and/or unwilling to
comprehend and/or acknowledge their significance. Your loss, not mine.
BTW, a retired friend sent me these two links recently; first is an illustration
whereas the second is a quasi-analysis…a bit overly broad, but nevertheless
< https://www.bogleheads.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=396981&sid=7b59bcd7747813e9852733284ece221f>
< https://bowtiedbull.substack.com/p/going-through-levels-of-wealth>
Quick reads both.
[quote]
Common tells of the Upper Middle Class belief system
* Absolute obsession with being seen as important...
* Insecurity...
* Passive aggressive behavior...Constant emphasis on how “high they are up the chain”.
* Obsession with “comp”....common for them to prod and try to figure out how much you make...
[/quote]
YAAAWWWWWNNNNNNNN...
“Cry harder”, Tommy.
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Your attempt at psychoanalysis is PATHETIC, Lyin' Asshole.
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* Absolute obsession with being seen as important...
* Insecurity...
* Passive aggressive behavior...Constant emphasis on how “high they are up the chain”.
* Obsession with “comp”....common for them to prod and try to figure out how much you make...
[/quote]
Yes, it is.
Nope: <https://bowtiedbull.substack.com/p/going-through-levels-of-wealth>
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Shoot the messenger much?
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The bottom line is the same: you just live a miserable life jealous of others
who have succeeded where you have failed.
YA instance of a (self-alleged) RSG “multimillionaire” being vain & bitter.
Hardly. I am neither vain nor bitter.
"...he vainly whined, so bitterly that his flecks of spittle tarnished the basement's linoleum floor." /s
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On the contrary, I have tried to pass the secret of my success to you libtards and have
been met with nothing but scorn and derision (which is why you dudes aren't successful).
Incorrect: your so-called 'secrets' weren't secrets at all, nor even about how to be successful
in business. They were just a couple of already-known strategies for personal income taxes.
FYI, it is hard to honestly claim that the disinclination was scornful/derisive when it was explained
as due to individual circumstances (e.g. insufficient age for RMDs, employer benefits) which was
what made them de-optimal strategies to be employed at present.
Perhaps what you're thinking of as derision was in how it was noted that you had exaggerated
on your claimed magnitude of savings? Or how your misrepresenting a mere two tips as "many"?
Nope. Attention to Detail is a time-tested attribute for success in life & business: try it sometime.
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Naturally, Tommy has provided zero quantified metrics for what anyone is
supposed to be jealous of him for. Perhaps it will be stomach acidity level?
You continually obliviate on it - that is ample evidence of jealousness.
Nah, it has merely become sport to remind you of your "emperor has no clothes" personal failure.
Because no one forced you to make your 'multimillionaire' claim, yet you did so & repeated that
many times. Your attempt to rub that in the face of others has backfired on you because you've
not ever substantiated your allegation, which is why it, like you, rings empty and hollow.
Hey Lyin' Asshole, you present a PHONY E-Trade transaction and you QUESTION my veracity???
Go back to the drawing board, bozo.
Oh, look: Tommy is back to that old diversion attempt again, only this time he's tried to move from
claiming it was a "very suspicious trade confirmation" to now alleging it was a "PHONY" one.
No proof again, of course.
"Go ahead and complain that this isn't good enough, but do so by leading by example, by posting your own
purchase order record of CVX to show what the minimum disclosure resolution is that you want to see."
Instead of leading by example, Tommy vainly just posts bitter another "Grandpa Simpson" rant.
LOL! Hey Lyin' Asshole, your phony Etrade confirmation shows a price of ONE DOLLAR and NOTHING
for the quantity. Now, are you claiming that is a REAL confirmation????
And no account number either: you're just confused because the redaction of that information
was done as white on transparent, which your image viewer represented as white on white: try
opening the file in a better GIF browser/editor to better reveal where the redactions were made.
Or ask nicely what contrasting color you want it changed to .. perhaps "cowardly Tommy yellow streak"?
Since that would be too much work for Tommy, here's an update of the substantiation, with the
redactions done in Tommy Yellow so that he can't legitimately complain about not being able to
<https://www.huntzinger.com/usenet/2022-TQQQ_redacted.gif>
Meantime, back on 3 Feb, we were told: “Prices have ALREADY factored those increases in and
company profits have ABSORBED those increases, so the market is GREEN-LIGHTED for an upside
move. In other words, we have already seen the market BOTTOM.”
But it appears that the Markets have had a difficult opinion of “bottom” than Tommy …
DJIA is currently down -800, of which -500 was just today. Similarly, Tommy’s favorite of TQQQ
was at $25.52 on the 3rd, but closed today at $22.35.
TQQQ closed out the week today at $21.77
Naturally, Tommy's in hiding, having called "BOTTOM" three weeks ago.
My, My! We haven't heard from the Lyin' Asshole on this topic for SOME TIME!
I wonder why?
Been busy doing other stuff. Roof replacement this past week.
Pics posted!
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Could it be because TQQQ closed yesterday at $36.82?
When it was over $80/share just eighteen months ago? Nah!
Hey you IDIOT - that is not what you were saying a couple of months ago.
Gosh, that’s an amazingly vague statement. You’ll have to provide
the exact quote, along with GG URL a link to the thread for context.
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My gain on TQQQ is now over FIFTY PERCENT!
My paper gain is bigger.
You can take your "paper gain" and wipe your ASS with it as that is ALL that it is good for!
Nah, it’s valuable enough just in how it makes that vein on your forehead pop.
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All that the Lyin' Asshole has to show is his obviously FAKE TRADE!
Still has more substantiation than your claim.
It is FAKE and you KNOW IT! I posted my trade when I made it.
How MUCH do you want to bet that it is FAKE?
Well, let’s see: just how many shares of TQQQ did you buy in total?
And how much cash are you willing to put into a third party escrow,
so as to deny either party the ability to Welch on any such wager?
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And you libtards have been WAY BEHIND THE CURVE on everything else,
calling for a market pullback, saying we should wait until even 2024 to
reenter the market!
Not what was actually said now, wasn’t it?
Pretty much was, asshole.
Nope. My comment was second half 2023, possibly into 2024.
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Especially since the historical trend is for the market bottom to be months after
the last Fed rate hike, and the Fed is coy on if they’re going to hike again later
this month or not, thanks to the stronger than expected jobs report last Friday.
How much have you LOST with that bit of so-called "intelligence?"
Less than you.
Pop that forehead vein again Tommy!
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LOL! Hey Lyin' Asshole, you continue to make proclamations based on exactly ZERO evidence. The market has bottomed based on the major indices. This was confirmed by the latest strong jobs report. I am sitting pretty while you are fretting over when to reenter the market. All of your predictions are BUST, which is why you AREN'T a multimillionaire. At least you can wipe your ass with them...
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Well, after yesterday's correction, seems about right to pull on Tommy's
chain again on how well his 'TQQQ' is doing.
Meantime...
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[YTD's were as of 19 May 2022]
BCE (DIV 5.3%) +2.3% Aug --> -2.81%
BBY (DIV 3.5%) -23% Aug --> -20.43%
CVX (DIV 3.5%) +40% Aug --> +33.69%
ED (DIV 3.5%) +12% Aug --> +18.11%
ENB (DIV 6%) +16% Aug --> +13.26%
JNJ (DIV 2.4%) +3.3% Aug --> -0.32%
LMT (DIV 2.6%) +22% Aug --> +25.64%
NVS (DIV 2.5%) +1.8% Aug --> -2.74%
VTRS (DIV 4.5%) -14% Aug --> -22.55%
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Total portfolio slice is still net positive 'YTD', by +6.1%, which contrasts ever
so slightly to the likes of Tommy's TQQQ being down by a mere -66%.
YTD is still positive, at +4.65% whereas TQQQ at $32.4 is in the red at -62% ... although
to be fair, that is a four point recovery since May. Of course, this +4.65% is before
dividends (roughly +2.5%), so one could say that it is effectively at +7% YTD.
Been way too long since reporting back on this...
BCE (DIV 5.3%) -14%
BBY (DIV 3.5%) -18%
CVX (DIV 3.5%) +44%
ED (DIV 3.5%) +13%
ENB (DIV 6%) +1%
JNJ (DIV 2.4%) +5%
LMT (DIV 2.6%) +39%
NVS (DIV 2.5%) +4%
VTRS (DIV 4.5%) -18%
Total portfolio slice is still net positive 'YTD', by +5.54% on Equities values...plus, of
course, the dividends spun off...roughly another +3.77%, so approx. +9% paper return.
+7.34% appreciation, plus the dividends, so roughly a 10%-11% YoY return.
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Apologies, forgot to include the comparison back to TQQQ for Tommy.
TQQQ (close yesterday) at $18.27 ... down -17% since Tommy's claimed purchase of it
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.sport.golf/c/ooGucHaSsFI/m/DpkT6VenAwAJ>
Tommy's silent, of course, as TQQQ's back under $22/share.
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Well, let's look at how Lyin' Asshole's strategy played out.
I figured you'd crawl back as soon as you were 'safely' above water.
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The Fed announced today a 0.25% rate hike and indicated they were close to the end of rate hikes.
"The Fed Raises Rates a Quarter Point and Signals More Ahead
America’s central bank has shifted into a new phase, raising rates
more slowly as inflation shows signs of moderating."
<https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/01/business/federal-reserve-interest-rates.html>
It includes a statement of "...“a couple more” rate increases..." too.
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This is what I was anticipating, and the market responded accordingly.
TQQQ is now at 24.39, giving me about an 11% gain in less than 90 days - not bad.
So? Does that mean that you sold today?
So, you STATED that I had a 20% LOSS w/o asking me if I had sold!
"Tommy's silent, of course, as TQQQ's back under $22/share. "
Plus Tommy's silent on if he's bailed out of TQQQ with just his 11% gain (before STCG taxes).
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WHY don't you maintain the same standards????
Sorry, but I *exceed* the standards that you use, by actually substantiating statements.
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More importantly, the trajectory going forward is much more likely to be up than down.
Yes, that's what the Fed said: "...“a couple more” rate increases...".
Or did you mean to suggest something else?
Hey Lyin' Asshole, I'm going to give you the MOST IMPORTANT piece of advice yet: the Fed is near
the end of their rate increases and the market KNOWS that. Prices have ALREADY factored those
increases in and company profits have ABSORBED those increases, so the market is GREEN-LIGHTED
for an upside move. In other words, we have already seen the market BOTTOM. Is that clear enough
for your peanut-sized brain??????
So you've definitively called the bottom. Does this also mean that you're also saying that there will be
no recession in 2023 either?
Hmmm...
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Meanwhile, the Lyin' Asshole has his thumb up his ass, not knowing what to do, but what else is new?
Golly, looks like Mr. Senile forgot that someone mentioned buying TQQQ in December
Hey LA, did you BUY TQQQ at that price? I DOUBT IT!!!!
<http://huntzinger.com/usenet/2022-TQQQ_redacted.gif>
Granted, it is redacted, but it is nevertheless sufficient to show a TQQQ purchase in December, at
a price whose first digit is a "1" instead of a "2". Go ahead and complain that this isn't good enough,
but do so by leading by example, by posting your own purchase order record of CVX to show what
the minimum disclosure resolution is that you want to see.
Still waiting.
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12/27/22 update: TQQQ low & close: $16.72 & $16.84
Looks like I can expect some paperwork in the mail from a certain limit order...
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Hmmm...that suggests something north of +40%, doesn't it?
Not for you because you DIDN'T BUY IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Except for how any TQQQ purchase below $20.00 versus your $24.39 price point
would be at least a +22% gain.
If PP = $19.50 --> +25%
If PP = $19.00 --> +28%
If PP = $18.50 --> +32%
If PP = $18.00 --> +36%
If PP = $17.50 --> +39%
If PP = $17.00 --> +43%
If PP = $16.50 --> +48%
etc
Meantime, today's jobs report was too strong, so Markets are dropping because they know
that that's meat for the Federal Reserve to keep on increasing rates for longer = a Tommy oops!
Without nitpicking, ...
This would be the part where Tommy tries to ignore that his call that the Feds have ended making
rate hikes is looking quite incorrect at the end of last week. Plus Tommy's silent on if he's bailed
out of TQQQ with just a 11% gain (before STCG taxes).
... its good to see that you followed my advice FOR ONCE!
Nah, the TQQQ holdings are insignificant: they're worth the entertainment value of seeing you
squirm, because no matter what brag you try to make, you know someone else is doing better than you.
The Lyin' Asshole's string of lies is unbroken: WHEN did I say that the Fed had ENDED their rate hikes?
"....indicated they were close to the end of rate hikes."
That's in conjunction and context with how you've not denied having also called the bottom already, as well as
the elaborations on how a bottom occurs only a few months before the last rate hikes. Together, it points to
the Fed's March meeting as being the last rate hike as being what you meant - - at the time you said it.
Naturally, now that the Fed has clearly said otherwise, you're trying to change what you meant, particularly
particularly since the June and even May Fed meeting dates are already too far into 2023 for a reasonable
expectation of a Fed rate cut occurring 2023, because any sort of Fed rates hold duration would be negated.
Meantime, you're silent on if you already bailed out of TQQQ at its 11% gain point (before STCG taxes).
Ditto on you providing clarity on if you're also saying that there will be no recession in 2023 either.
As well as your mystery purchase record on CVX....oh, gosh on INTC too (purchased claimed prior to 11 Jan 22)
31 Dec 21: $48.94**
11 Jan 22: $52.46
11 Feb 23: $27.80
** - adjusted close; lowest daily non-adjusted low for 10/31/21 through 1/11/22 was $49.18
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Hey Asshole, at least you ADMIT that I didn't say the Fed was DONE with rate hikes.
There are, at least, two more rate hikes in the works, PROBABLY (note I am not declaring this) 0.25% each.
Oh, so it’s “at least two”? That’s what’s now supposed to be “close”? This pushes out the first
meeting with no expected rate hike to mid-June, so where does that now place your bottom,
for which you’ve previously said “I am saying that the market is going thru a bottoming process
this quarter.”, which ends in just 51 days? Trying to copy my 1H comment?
So, now you are arguing about what "close" means. Sorry, but your sorry ass
doesn't deserve an education in that.
Nope, just illustrating how you’re trying to [use] a rubber ruler…again. And got caught…again.
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We have ALREADY had our recession which you profoundly waffled about.
No, NBER is the authority on that, and they’ve not made that call. Sorry.
Sorry, but we WERE.
Nope. No matter what you want to believe, NBER has not made that determination.
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I have ALREADY put you on notice that I AM NOT informing you of all my trades, …
Non sequitur, as you’ve been on notice yourself that you can’t make any claims on any
trades that you’ve not posted prior adequate notice. Thus, you’ll no longer be able to
cherry-pick from your entire portfolio to find a winner to claim…unless you choose to
disclose your entire portfolio, of course.
You are a PIECE OF WORK, Asshole! I owe you exactly NOTHING, which is exactly
what you DESERVE. You are a loser living a life of quiet desperation that looks at
diminishing those that have done better than you.
Golly, that reflection you see of yourself in the mirror really is quite ugly, isn’t it?
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… just as YOU are not doing the same (and, now, declaring that you bought TQQQ
with a very suspicious trade confirmation).
Nah, you’ve already been told to provide an example of your own trades with the level
of detail you’re trying to complain about not getting from others…and have not done so.
Silence from Tommy.
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Let's face it: you're jealous of my success and want to belittle it at every opportunity.
So be it - you are welcome to wallow in your proven mediocrity.
Sorry, but you do that all on your own and to yourself. No one here has any reason
to be in the least jealous of your little goldfish bowl’s echo chamber.
Yeah, right - coming from a loser.
Nah, the problem you have Tommy is that I’ve not tried to brag as much as you, so
you’re stuck in the “absence of evidence is not evidence of absence” logical trap.
Plus even when I’ve dropped clues, you’ve been unable and/or unwilling to
comprehend and/or acknowledge their significance. Your loss, not mine.
BTW, a retired friend sent me these two links recently; first is an illustration
whereas the second is a quasi-analysis…a bit overly broad, but nevertheless
< https://www.bogleheads.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=396981&sid=7b59bcd7747813e9852733284ece221f>
< https://bowtiedbull.substack.com/p/going-through-levels-of-wealth>
Quick reads both.
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Common tells of the Upper Middle Class belief system
* Absolute obsession with being seen as important...
* Insecurity...
* Passive aggressive behavior...Constant emphasis on how “high they are up the chain”.
* Obsession with “comp”....common for them to prod and try to figure out how much you make...
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YAAAWWWWWNNNNNNNN...
“Cry harder”, Tommy.
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Your attempt at psychoanalysis is PATHETIC, Lyin' Asshole.
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* Absolute obsession with being seen as important...
* Insecurity...
* Passive aggressive behavior...Constant emphasis on how “high they are up the chain”.
* Obsession with “comp”....common for them to prod and try to figure out how much you make...
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Yes, it is.
Nope: <https://bowtiedbull.substack.com/p/going-through-levels-of-wealth>
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The bottom line is the same: you just live a miserable life jealous of others
who have succeeded where you have failed.
YA instance of a (self-alleged) RSG “multimillionaire” being vain & bitter.
Hardly. I am neither vain nor bitter.
"...he vainly whined, so bitterly that his flecks of spittle tarnished the basement's linoleum floor." /s
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On the contrary, I have tried to pass the secret of my success to you libtards and have
been met with nothing but scorn and derision (which is why you dudes aren't successful).
Incorrect: your so-called 'secrets' weren't secrets at all, nor even about how to be successful
in business. They were just a couple of already-known strategies for personal income taxes.
FYI, it is hard to honestly claim that the disinclination was scornful/derisive when it was explained
as due to individual circumstances (e.g. insufficient age for RMDs, employer benefits) which was
what made them de-optimal strategies to be employed at present.
Perhaps what you're thinking of as derision was in how it was noted that you had exaggerated
on your claimed magnitude of savings? Or how your misrepresenting a mere two tips as "many"?
Nope. Attention to Detail is a time-tested attribute for success in life & business: try it sometime.
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Naturally, Tommy has provided zero quantified metrics for what anyone is
supposed to be jealous of him for. Perhaps it will be stomach acidity level?
You continually obliviate on it - that is ample evidence of jealousness.
Nah, it has merely become sport to remind you of your "emperor has no clothes" personal failure.
Because no one forced you to make your 'multimillionaire' claim, yet you did so & repeated that
many times. Your attempt to rub that in the face of others has backfired on you because you've
not ever substantiated your allegation, which is why it, like you, rings empty and hollow.
Hey Lyin' Asshole, you present a PHONY E-Trade transaction and you QUESTION my veracity???
Go back to the drawing board, bozo.
Oh, look: Tommy is back to that old diversion attempt again, only this time he's tried to move from
claiming it was a "very suspicious trade confirmation" to now alleging it was a "PHONY" one.
No proof again, of course.
"Go ahead and complain that this isn't good enough, but do so by leading by example, by posting your own
purchase order record of CVX to show what the minimum disclosure resolution is that you want to see."
Instead of leading by example, Tommy vainly just posts bitter another "Grandpa Simpson" rant.
LOL! Hey Lyin' Asshole, your phony Etrade confirmation shows a price of ONE DOLLAR and NOTHING
for the quantity. Now, are you claiming that is a REAL confirmation????
And no account number either: you're just confused because the redaction of that information
was done as white on transparent, which your image viewer represented as white on white: try
opening the file in a better GIF browser/editor to better reveal where the redactions were made.
Or ask nicely what contrasting color you want it changed to .. perhaps "cowardly Tommy yellow streak"?
Since that would be too much work for Tommy, here's an update of the substantiation, with the
redactions done in Tommy Yellow so that he can't legitimately complain about not being able to
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Meantime, back on 3 Feb, we were told: “Prices have ALREADY factored those increases in and
company profits have ABSORBED those increases, so the market is GREEN-LIGHTED for an upside
move. In other words, we have already seen the market BOTTOM.”
But it appears that the Markets have had a difficult opinion of “bottom” than Tommy …
DJIA is currently down -800, of which -500 was just today. Similarly, Tommy’s favorite of TQQQ
was at $25.52 on the 3rd, but closed today at $22.35.
TQQQ closed out the week today at $21.77
Naturally, Tommy's in hiding, having called "BOTTOM" three weeks ago.
My, My! We haven't heard from the Lyin' Asshole on this topic for SOME TIME!
I wonder why?
Been busy doing other stuff. Roof replacement this past week.
Pics posted!
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Could it be because TQQQ closed yesterday at $36.82?
When it was over $80/share just eighteen months ago? Nah!
Hey you IDIOT - that is not what you were saying a couple of months ago.
Gosh, that’s an amazingly vague statement. You’ll have to provide
the exact quote, along with GG URL a link to the thread for context.
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My gain on TQQQ is now over FIFTY PERCENT!
My paper gain is bigger.
You can take your "paper gain" and wipe your ASS with it as that is ALL that it is good for!
Nah, it’s valuable enough just in how it makes that vein on your forehead pop.
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All that the Lyin' Asshole has to show is his obviously FAKE TRADE!
Still has more substantiation than your claim.
It is FAKE and you KNOW IT! I posted my trade when I made it.
How MUCH do you want to bet that it is FAKE?
Well, let’s see: just how many shares of TQQQ did you buy in total?
And how much cash are you willing to put into a third party escrow,
so as to deny either party the ability to Welch on any such wager?
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And you libtards have been WAY BEHIND THE CURVE on everything else,
calling for a market pullback, saying we should wait until even 2024 to
reenter the market!
Not what was actually said now, wasn’t it?
Pretty much was, asshole.
Nope. My comment was second half 2023, possibly into 2024.
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Especially since the historical trend is for the market bottom to be months after
the last Fed rate hike, and the Fed is coy on if they’re going to hike again later
this month or not, thanks to the stronger than expected jobs report last Friday.
How much have you LOST with that bit of so-called "intelligence?"
Less than you.
Pop that forehead vein again Tommy!
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LOL! Hey Lyin' Asshole, you continue to make proclamations based on exactly ZERO evidence. The market has bottomed based on the major indices. This was confirmed by the latest strong jobs report. I am sitting pretty while you are fretting over when to reenter the market. All of your predictions are BUST, which is why you AREN'T a multimillionaire. At least you can wipe your ass with them...
BTW, I am willing to bet you AS MUCH as I invested in TQQQ - nothing like doubling my investment!
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Well, after yesterday's correction, seems about right to pull on Tommy's
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[YTD's were as of 19 May 2022]
BCE (DIV 5.3%) +2.3% Aug --> -2.81%
BBY (DIV 3.5%) -23% Aug --> -20.43%
CVX (DIV 3.5%) +40% Aug --> +33.69%
ED (DIV 3.5%) +12% Aug --> +18.11%
ENB (DIV 6%) +16% Aug --> +13.26%
JNJ (DIV 2.4%) +3.3% Aug --> -0.32%
LMT (DIV 2.6%) +22% Aug --> +25.64%
NVS (DIV 2.5%) +1.8% Aug --> -2.74%
VTRS (DIV 4.5%) -14% Aug --> -22.55%
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Total portfolio slice is still net positive 'YTD', by +6.1%, which contrasts ever
so slightly to the likes of Tommy's TQQQ being down by a mere -66%.
YTD is still positive, at +4.65% whereas TQQQ at $32.4 is in the red at -62% ... although
to be fair, that is a four point recovery since May. Of course, this +4.65% is before
dividends (roughly +2.5%), so one could say that it is effectively at +7% YTD.
Been way too long since reporting back on this...
BCE (DIV 5.3%) -14%
BBY (DIV 3.5%) -18%
CVX (DIV 3.5%) +44%
ED (DIV 3.5%) +13%
ENB (DIV 6%) +1%
JNJ (DIV 2.4%) +5%
LMT (DIV 2.6%) +39%
NVS (DIV 2.5%) +4%
VTRS (DIV 4.5%) -18%
Total portfolio slice is still net positive 'YTD', by +5.54% on Equities values...plus, of
course, the dividends spun off...roughly another +3.77%, so approx. +9% paper return.
+7.34% appreciation, plus the dividends, so roughly a 10%-11% YoY return.
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Apologies, forgot to include the comparison back to TQQQ for Tommy.
TQQQ (close yesterday) at $18.27 ... down -17% since Tommy's claimed purchase of it
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.sport.golf/c/ooGucHaSsFI/m/DpkT6VenAwAJ>
Tommy's silent, of course, as TQQQ's back under $22/share.
-hh
Well, let's look at how Lyin' Asshole's strategy played out.
I figured you'd crawl back as soon as you were 'safely' above water.
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The Fed announced today a 0.25% rate hike and indicated they were close to the end of rate hikes.
"The Fed Raises Rates a Quarter Point and Signals More Ahead
America’s central bank has shifted into a new phase, raising rates
more slowly as inflation shows signs of moderating."
<https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/01/business/federal-reserve-interest-rates.html>
It includes a statement of "...“a couple more” rate increases..." too.
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This is what I was anticipating, and the market responded accordingly.
TQQQ is now at 24.39, giving me about an 11% gain in less than 90 days - not bad.
So? Does that mean that you sold today?
So, you STATED that I had a 20% LOSS w/o asking me if I had sold!
"Tommy's silent, of course, as TQQQ's back under $22/share. "
Plus Tommy's silent on if he's bailed out of TQQQ with just his 11% gain (before STCG taxes).
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WHY don't you maintain the same standards????
Sorry, but I *exceed* the standards that you use, by actually substantiating statements.
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More importantly, the trajectory going forward is much more likely to be up than down.
Yes, that's what the Fed said: "...“a couple more” rate increases...".
Or did you mean to suggest something else?
Hey Lyin' Asshole, I'm going to give you the MOST IMPORTANT piece of advice yet: the Fed is near
the end of their rate increases and the market KNOWS that. Prices have ALREADY factored those
increases in and company profits have ABSORBED those increases, so the market is GREEN-LIGHTED
for an upside move. In other words, we have already seen the market BOTTOM. Is that clear enough
for your peanut-sized brain??????
So you've definitively called the bottom. Does this also mean that you're also saying that there will be
no recession in 2023 either?
Hmmm...
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Meanwhile, the Lyin' Asshole has his thumb up his ass, not knowing what to do, but what else is new?
Golly, looks like Mr. Senile forgot that someone mentioned buying TQQQ in December
Hey LA, did you BUY TQQQ at that price? I DOUBT IT!!!!
<http://huntzinger.com/usenet/2022-TQQQ_redacted.gif>
Granted, it is redacted, but it is nevertheless sufficient to show a TQQQ purchase in December, at
a price whose first digit is a "1" instead of a "2". Go ahead and complain that this isn't good enough,
but do so by leading by example, by posting your own purchase order record of CVX to show what
the minimum disclosure resolution is that you want to see.
Still waiting.
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12/27/22 update: TQQQ low & close: $16.72 & $16.84
Looks like I can expect some paperwork in the mail from a certain limit order...
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Hmmm...that suggests something north of +40%, doesn't it?
Not for you because you DIDN'T BUY IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Except for how any TQQQ purchase below $20.00 versus your $24.39 price point
would be at least a +22% gain.
If PP = $19.50 --> +25%
If PP = $19.00 --> +28%
If PP = $18.50 --> +32%
If PP = $18.00 --> +36%
If PP = $17.50 --> +39%
If PP = $17.00 --> +43%
If PP = $16.50 --> +48%
etc
Meantime, today's jobs report was too strong, so Markets are dropping because they know
that that's meat for the Federal Reserve to keep on increasing rates for longer = a Tommy oops!
Without nitpicking, ...
This would be the part where Tommy tries to ignore that his call that the Feds have ended making
rate hikes is looking quite incorrect at the end of last week. Plus Tommy's silent on if he's bailed
out of TQQQ with just a 11% gain (before STCG taxes).
... its good to see that you followed my advice FOR ONCE!
Nah, the TQQQ holdings are insignificant: they're worth the entertainment value of seeing you
squirm, because no matter what brag you try to make, you know someone else is doing better than you.
The Lyin' Asshole's string of lies is unbroken: WHEN did I say that the Fed had ENDED their rate hikes?
"....indicated they were close to the end of rate hikes."
That's in conjunction and context with how you've not denied having also called the bottom already, as well as
the elaborations on how a bottom occurs only a few months before the last rate hikes. Together, it points to
the Fed's March meeting as being the last rate hike as being what you meant - - at the time you said it.
Naturally, now that the Fed has clearly said otherwise, you're trying to change what you meant, particularly
particularly since the June and even May Fed meeting dates are already too far into 2023 for a reasonable
expectation of a Fed rate cut occurring 2023, because any sort of Fed rates hold duration would be negated.
Meantime, you're silent on if you already bailed out of TQQQ at its 11% gain point (before STCG taxes).
Ditto on you providing clarity on if you're also saying that there will be no recession in 2023 either.
As well as your mystery purchase record on CVX....oh, gosh on INTC too (purchased claimed prior to 11 Jan 22)
31 Dec 21: $48.94**
11 Jan 22: $52.46
11 Feb 23: $27.80
** - adjusted close; lowest daily non-adjusted low for 10/31/21 through 1/11/22 was $49.18
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Hey Asshole, at least you ADMIT that I didn't say the Fed was DONE with rate hikes.
There are, at least, two more rate hikes in the works, PROBABLY (note I am not declaring this) 0.25% each.
Oh, so it’s “at least two”? That’s what’s now supposed to be “close”? This pushes out the first
meeting with no expected rate hike to mid-June, so where does that now place your bottom,
for which you’ve previously said “I am saying that the market is going thru a bottoming process
this quarter.”, which ends in just 51 days? Trying to copy my 1H comment?
So, now you are arguing about what "close" means. Sorry, but your sorry ass
doesn't deserve an education in that.
Nope, just illustrating how you’re trying to [use] a rubber ruler…again. And got caught…again.
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We have ALREADY had our recession which you profoundly waffled about.
No, NBER is the authority on that, and they’ve not made that call. Sorry.
Sorry, but we WERE.
Nope. No matter what you want to believe, NBER has not made that determination.
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I have ALREADY put you on notice that I AM NOT informing you of all my trades, …
Non sequitur, as you’ve been on notice yourself that you can’t make any claims on any
trades that you’ve not posted prior adequate notice. Thus, you’ll no longer be able to
cherry-pick from your entire portfolio to find a winner to claim…unless you choose to
disclose your entire portfolio, of course.
You are a PIECE OF WORK, Asshole! I owe you exactly NOTHING, which is exactly
what you DESERVE. You are a loser living a life of quiet desperation that looks at
diminishing those that have done better than you.
Golly, that reflection you see of yourself in the mirror really is quite ugly, isn’t it?
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… just as YOU are not doing the same (and, now, declaring that you bought TQQQ
with a very suspicious trade confirmation).
Nah, you’ve already been told to provide an example of your own trades with the level
of detail you’re trying to complain about not getting from others…and have not done so.
Silence from Tommy.
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Let's face it: you're jealous of my success and want to belittle it at every opportunity.
So be it - you are welcome to wallow in your proven mediocrity.
Sorry, but you do that all on your own and to yourself. No one here has any reason
to be in the least jealous of your little goldfish bowl’s echo chamber.
Yeah, right - coming from a loser.
Nah, the problem you have Tommy is that I’ve not tried to brag as much as you, so
you’re stuck in the “absence of evidence is not evidence of absence” logical trap.
Plus even when I’ve dropped clues, you’ve been unable and/or unwilling to
comprehend and/or acknowledge their significance. Your loss, not mine.
BTW, a retired friend sent me these two links recently; first is an illustration
whereas the second is a quasi-analysis…a bit overly broad, but nevertheless
< https://www.bogleheads.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=396981&sid=7b59bcd7747813e9852733284ece221f>
< https://bowtiedbull.substack.com/p/going-through-levels-of-wealth>
Quick reads both.
[quote]
Common tells of the Upper Middle Class belief system
* Absolute obsession with being seen as important...
* Insecurity...
* Passive aggressive behavior...Constant emphasis on how “high they are up the chain”.
* Obsession with “comp”....common for them to prod and try to figure out how much you make...
[/quote]
YAAAWWWWWNNNNNNNN...
“Cry harder”, Tommy.
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Your attempt at psychoanalysis is PATHETIC, Lyin' Asshole.
[quote]
* Absolute obsession with being seen as important...
* Insecurity...
* Passive aggressive behavior...Constant emphasis on how “high they are up the chain”.
* Obsession with “comp”....common for them to prod and try to figure out how much you make...
[/quote]
Yes, it is.
Nope: <https://bowtiedbull.substack.com/p/going-through-levels-of-wealth>
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Shoot the messenger much?
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The bottom line is the same: you just live a miserable life jealous of others
who have succeeded where you have failed.
YA instance of a (self-alleged) RSG “multimillionaire” being vain & bitter.
Hardly. I am neither vain nor bitter.
"...he vainly whined, so bitterly that his flecks of spittle tarnished the basement's linoleum floor." /s
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On the contrary, I have tried to pass the secret of my success to you libtards and have
been met with nothing but scorn and derision (which is why you dudes aren't successful).
Incorrect: your so-called 'secrets' weren't secrets at all, nor even about how to be successful
in business. They were just a couple of already-known strategies for personal income taxes.
FYI, it is hard to honestly claim that the disinclination was scornful/derisive when it was explained
as due to individual circumstances (e.g. insufficient age for RMDs, employer benefits) which was
what made them de-optimal strategies to be employed at present.
Perhaps what you're thinking of as derision was in how it was noted that you had exaggerated
on your claimed magnitude of savings? Or how your misrepresenting a mere two tips as "many"?
Nope. Attention to Detail is a time-tested attribute for success in life & business: try it sometime.
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Naturally, Tommy has provided zero quantified metrics for what anyone is
supposed to be jealous of him for. Perhaps it will be stomach acidity level?
You continually obliviate on it - that is ample evidence of jealousness.
Nah, it has merely become sport to remind you of your "emperor has no clothes" personal failure.
Because no one forced you to make your 'multimillionaire' claim, yet you did so & repeated that
many times. Your attempt to rub that in the face of others has backfired on you because you've
not ever substantiated your allegation, which is why it, like you, rings empty and hollow.
Hey Lyin' Asshole, you present a PHONY E-Trade transaction and you QUESTION my veracity???
Go back to the drawing board, bozo.
Oh, look: Tommy is back to that old diversion attempt again, only this time he's tried to move from
claiming it was a "very suspicious trade confirmation" to now alleging it was a "PHONY" one.
No proof again, of course.
"Go ahead and complain that this isn't good enough, but do so by leading by example, by posting your own
purchase order record of CVX to show what the minimum disclosure resolution is that you want to see."
Instead of leading by example, Tommy vainly just posts bitter another "Grandpa Simpson" rant.
LOL! Hey Lyin' Asshole, your phony Etrade confirmation shows a price of ONE DOLLAR and NOTHING
for the quantity. Now, are you claiming that is a REAL confirmation????
And no account number either: you're just confused because the redaction of that information
was done as white on transparent, which your image viewer represented as white on white: try
opening the file in a better GIF browser/editor to better reveal where the redactions were made.
Or ask nicely what contrasting color you want it changed to .. perhaps "cowardly Tommy yellow streak"?
Since that would be too much work for Tommy, here's an update of the substantiation, with the
redactions done in Tommy Yellow so that he can't legitimately complain about not being able to
<https://www.huntzinger.com/usenet/2022-TQQQ_redacted.gif>
Meantime, back on 3 Feb, we were told: “Prices have ALREADY factored those increases in and
company profits have ABSORBED those increases, so the market is GREEN-LIGHTED for an upside
move. In other words, we have already seen the market BOTTOM.”
But it appears that the Markets have had a difficult opinion of “bottom” than Tommy …
DJIA is currently down -800, of which -500 was just today. Similarly, Tommy’s favorite of TQQQ
was at $25.52 on the 3rd, but closed today at $22.35.
TQQQ closed out the week today at $21.77
Naturally, Tommy's in hiding, having called "BOTTOM" three weeks ago.
My, My! We haven't heard from the Lyin' Asshole on this topic for SOME TIME!
I wonder why?
Been busy doing other stuff. Roof replacement this past week.
Pics posted!
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Could it be because TQQQ closed yesterday at $36.82?
When it was over $80/share just eighteen months ago? Nah!
Hey you IDIOT - that is not what you were saying a couple of months ago.
Gosh, that’s an amazingly vague statement. You’ll have to provide
the exact quote, along with GG URL a link to the thread for context.
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My gain on TQQQ is now over FIFTY PERCENT!
My paper gain is bigger.
You can take your "paper gain" and wipe your ASS with it as that is ALL that it is good for!
Nah, it’s valuable enough just in how it makes that vein on your forehead pop.
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All that the Lyin' Asshole has to show is his obviously FAKE TRADE!
Still has more substantiation than your claim.
It is FAKE and you KNOW IT! I posted my trade when I made it.
How MUCH do you want to bet that it is FAKE?
Well, let’s see: just how many shares of TQQQ did you buy in total?
And how much cash are you willing to put into a third party escrow,
so as to deny either party the ability to Welch on any such wager?
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And you libtards have been WAY BEHIND THE CURVE on everything else,
calling for a market pullback, saying we should wait until even 2024 to
reenter the market!
Not what was actually said now, wasn’t it?
Pretty much was, asshole.
Nope. My comment was second half 2023, possibly into 2024.
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Especially since the historical trend is for the market bottom to be months after
the last Fed rate hike, and the Fed is coy on if they’re going to hike again later
this month or not, thanks to the stronger than expected jobs report last Friday.
How much have you LOST with that bit of so-called "intelligence?"
Less than you.
Pop that forehead vein again Tommy!
LOL! Hey Lyin' Asshole, you continue to make proclamations based on exactly ZERO evidence.
Nah, I’ve previously mentioned some of my sources, such as Ed Hyman.
I’m also not inclined to divulge information from advisers I’m paying for.
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The market has bottomed based on the major indices. This was confirmed by
the latest strong jobs report.
Except for how that jobs report is causing the Fed to deliberate on making yet
another interest rate hike later this month, and as we all know, rate hikes are
headwinds against the Equities markets. “Don’t Fight the Fed”, fool.
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I am sitting pretty while you are fretting over when to reenter the market.
Where “sitting pretty” means just what, specifically?

Plus you shouldn’t spout opinions when you’re not fully informed: I merely had
mentioned that that I had pulled some profits out back during the “melt up”, in
anticipation of Market corrections to then reinvest. If that approach is so foolish,
then why is Berkshire Hathaway holding larger cash right now too? It’s not like
you’re richer than Warren Buffet:

< https://www.investopedia.com/berkshire-hathaway-annual-meeting-2023-7494837>
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All of your predictions are BUST, which is why you AREN'T a multimillionaire.
First, one doesn’t need to have perfect prognostication to do well.
Second, you’ve failed to substantiate your above claim.
Third, you’ve never substantiated your own wealth brag.
Tommy is having rampant personal insecurities rants…again.
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At least you can wipe your ass with them...
More like wiping the floor with you.
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BTW, I am willing to bet you AS MUCH as I invested in TQQQ - nothing like doubling my investment!
Given how you were previously unwilling to risk even $20 on a wager,
this would then have to be less than one (1) share of TQQQ.

-hh
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Well, after yesterday's correction, seems about right to pull on Tommy's
chain again on how well his 'TQQQ' is doing.
Meantime...
Probably time to check these again; midday 22 Aug 22
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[YTD's were as of 19 May 2022]
BCE (DIV 5.3%) +2.3% Aug --> -2.81%
BBY (DIV 3.5%) -23% Aug --> -20.43%
CVX (DIV 3.5%) +40% Aug --> +33.69%
ED (DIV 3.5%) +12% Aug --> +18.11%
ENB (DIV 6%) +16% Aug --> +13.26%
JNJ (DIV 2.4%) +3.3% Aug --> -0.32%
LMT (DIV 2.6%) +22% Aug --> +25.64%
NVS (DIV 2.5%) +1.8% Aug --> -2.74%
VTRS (DIV 4.5%) -14% Aug --> -22.55%
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Total portfolio slice is still net positive 'YTD', by +6.1%, which contrasts ever
so slightly to the likes of Tommy's TQQQ being down by a mere -66%.
YTD is still positive, at +4.65% whereas TQQQ at $32.4 is in the red at -62% ... although
to be fair, that is a four point recovery since May. Of course, this +4.65% is before
dividends (roughly +2.5%), so one could say that it is effectively at +7% YTD.
Been way too long since reporting back on this...
BCE (DIV 5.3%) -14%
BBY (DIV 3.5%) -18%
CVX (DIV 3.5%) +44%
ED (DIV 3.5%) +13%
ENB (DIV 6%) +1%
JNJ (DIV 2.4%) +5%
LMT (DIV 2.6%) +39%
NVS (DIV 2.5%) +4%
VTRS (DIV 4.5%) -18%
Total portfolio slice is still net positive 'YTD', by +5.54% on Equities values...plus, of
course, the dividends spun off...roughly another +3.77%, so approx. +9% paper return.
+7.34% appreciation, plus the dividends, so roughly a 10%-11% YoY return.
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Apologies, forgot to include the comparison back to TQQQ for Tommy.
TQQQ (close yesterday) at $18.27 ... down -17% since Tommy's claimed purchase of it
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.sport.golf/c/ooGucHaSsFI/m/DpkT6VenAwAJ>
Tommy's silent, of course, as TQQQ's back under $22/share.
-hh
Well, let's look at how Lyin' Asshole's strategy played out.
I figured you'd crawl back as soon as you were 'safely' above water.
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The Fed announced today a 0.25% rate hike and indicated they were close to the end of rate hikes.
"The Fed Raises Rates a Quarter Point and Signals More Ahead
America’s central bank has shifted into a new phase, raising rates
more slowly as inflation shows signs of moderating."
<https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/01/business/federal-reserve-interest-rates.html>
It includes a statement of "...“a couple more” rate increases..." too.
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This is what I was anticipating, and the market responded accordingly.
TQQQ is now at 24.39, giving me about an 11% gain in less than 90 days - not bad.
So? Does that mean that you sold today?
So, you STATED that I had a 20% LOSS w/o asking me if I had sold!
"Tommy's silent, of course, as TQQQ's back under $22/share. "
Plus Tommy's silent on if he's bailed out of TQQQ with just his 11% gain (before STCG taxes).
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WHY don't you maintain the same standards????
Sorry, but I *exceed* the standards that you use, by actually substantiating statements.
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More importantly, the trajectory going forward is much more likely to be up than down.
Yes, that's what the Fed said: "...“a couple more” rate increases...".
Or did you mean to suggest something else?
Hey Lyin' Asshole, I'm going to give you the MOST IMPORTANT piece of advice yet: the Fed is near
the end of their rate increases and the market KNOWS that. Prices have ALREADY factored those
increases in and company profits have ABSORBED those increases, so the market is GREEN-LIGHTED
for an upside move. In other words, we have already seen the market BOTTOM. Is that clear enough
for your peanut-sized brain??????
So you've definitively called the bottom. Does this also mean that you're also saying that there will be
no recession in 2023 either?
Hmmm...
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Meanwhile, the Lyin' Asshole has his thumb up his ass, not knowing what to do, but what else is new?
Golly, looks like Mr. Senile forgot that someone mentioned buying TQQQ in December
Hey LA, did you BUY TQQQ at that price? I DOUBT IT!!!!
<http://huntzinger.com/usenet/2022-TQQQ_redacted.gif>
Granted, it is redacted, but it is nevertheless sufficient to show a TQQQ purchase in December, at
a price whose first digit is a "1" instead of a "2". Go ahead and complain that this isn't good enough,
but do so by leading by example, by posting your own purchase order record of CVX to show what
the minimum disclosure resolution is that you want to see.
Still waiting.
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12/27/22 update: TQQQ low & close: $16.72 & $16.84
Looks like I can expect some paperwork in the mail from a certain limit order...
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Hmmm...that suggests something north of +40%, doesn't it?
Not for you because you DIDN'T BUY IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Except for how any TQQQ purchase below $20.00 versus your $24.39 price point
would be at least a +22% gain.
If PP = $19.50 --> +25%
If PP = $19.00 --> +28%
If PP = $18.50 --> +32%
If PP = $18.00 --> +36%
If PP = $17.50 --> +39%
If PP = $17.00 --> +43%
If PP = $16.50 --> +48%
etc
Meantime, today's jobs report was too strong, so Markets are dropping because they know
that that's meat for the Federal Reserve to keep on increasing rates for longer = a Tommy oops!
Without nitpicking, ...
This would be the part where Tommy tries to ignore that his call that the Feds have ended making
rate hikes is looking quite incorrect at the end of last week. Plus Tommy's silent on if he's bailed
out of TQQQ with just a 11% gain (before STCG taxes).
... its good to see that you followed my advice FOR ONCE!
Nah, the TQQQ holdings are insignificant: they're worth the entertainment value of seeing you
squirm, because no matter what brag you try to make, you know someone else is doing better than you.
The Lyin' Asshole's string of lies is unbroken: WHEN did I say that the Fed had ENDED their rate hikes?
"....indicated they were close to the end of rate hikes."
That's in conjunction and context with how you've not denied having also called the bottom already, as well as
the elaborations on how a bottom occurs only a few months before the last rate hikes. Together, it points to
the Fed's March meeting as being the last rate hike as being what you meant - - at the time you said it.
Naturally, now that the Fed has clearly said otherwise, you're trying to change what you meant, particularly
particularly since the June and even May Fed meeting dates are already too far into 2023 for a reasonable
expectation of a Fed rate cut occurring 2023, because any sort of Fed rates hold duration would be negated.
Meantime, you're silent on if you already bailed out of TQQQ at its 11% gain point (before STCG taxes).
Ditto on you providing clarity on if you're also saying that there will be no recession in 2023 either.
As well as your mystery purchase record on CVX....oh, gosh on INTC too (purchased claimed prior to 11 Jan 22)
31 Dec 21: $48.94**
11 Jan 22: $52.46
11 Feb 23: $27.80
** - adjusted close; lowest daily non-adjusted low for 10/31/21 through 1/11/22 was $49.18
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Hey Asshole, at least you ADMIT that I didn't say the Fed was DONE with rate hikes.
There are, at least, two more rate hikes in the works, PROBABLY (note I am not declaring this) 0.25% each.
Oh, so it’s “at least two”? That’s what’s now supposed to be “close”? This pushes out the first
meeting with no expected rate hike to mid-June, so where does that now place your bottom,
for which you’ve previously said “I am saying that the market is going thru a bottoming process
this quarter.”, which ends in just 51 days? Trying to copy my 1H comment?
So, now you are arguing about what "close" means. Sorry, but your sorry ass
doesn't deserve an education in that.
Nope, just illustrating how you’re trying to [use] a rubber ruler…again. And got caught…again.
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We have ALREADY had our recession which you profoundly waffled about.
No, NBER is the authority on that, and they’ve not made that call. Sorry.
Sorry, but we WERE.
Nope. No matter what you want to believe, NBER has not made that determination.
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I have ALREADY put you on notice that I AM NOT informing you of all my trades, …
Non sequitur, as you’ve been on notice yourself that you can’t make any claims on any
trades that you’ve not posted prior adequate notice. Thus, you’ll no longer be able to
cherry-pick from your entire portfolio to find a winner to claim…unless you choose to
disclose your entire portfolio, of course.
You are a PIECE OF WORK, Asshole! I owe you exactly NOTHING, which is exactly
what you DESERVE. You are a loser living a life of quiet desperation that looks at
diminishing those that have done better than you.
Golly, that reflection you see of yourself in the mirror really is quite ugly, isn’t it?
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… just as YOU are not doing the same (and, now, declaring that you bought TQQQ
with a very suspicious trade confirmation).
Nah, you’ve already been told to provide an example of your own trades with the level
of detail you’re trying to complain about not getting from others…and have not done so.
Silence from Tommy.
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Let's face it: you're jealous of my success and want to belittle it at every opportunity.
So be it - you are welcome to wallow in your proven mediocrity.
Sorry, but you do that all on your own and to yourself. No one here has any reason
to be in the least jealous of your little goldfish bowl’s echo chamber.
Yeah, right - coming from a loser.
Nah, the problem you have Tommy is that I’ve not tried to brag as much as you, so
you’re stuck in the “absence of evidence is not evidence of absence” logical trap.
Plus even when I’ve dropped clues, you’ve been unable and/or unwilling to
comprehend and/or acknowledge their significance. Your loss, not mine.
BTW, a retired friend sent me these two links recently; first is an illustration
whereas the second is a quasi-analysis…a bit overly broad, but nevertheless
< https://www.bogleheads.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=396981&sid=7b59bcd7747813e9852733284ece221f>
< https://bowtiedbull.substack.com/p/going-through-levels-of-wealth>
Quick reads both.
[quote]
Common tells of the Upper Middle Class belief system
* Absolute obsession with being seen as important...
* Insecurity...
* Passive aggressive behavior...Constant emphasis on how “high they are up the chain”.
* Obsession with “comp”....common for them to prod and try to figure out how much you make...
[/quote]
YAAAWWWWWNNNNNNNN...
“Cry harder”, Tommy.
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Your attempt at psychoanalysis is PATHETIC, Lyin' Asshole.
[quote]
* Absolute obsession with being seen as important...
* Insecurity...
* Passive aggressive behavior...Constant emphasis on how “high they are up the chain”.
* Obsession with “comp”....common for them to prod and try to figure out how much you make...
[/quote]
Yes, it is.
Nope: <https://bowtiedbull.substack.com/p/going-through-levels-of-wealth>
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Shoot the messenger much?
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The bottom line is the same: you just live a miserable life jealous of others
who have succeeded where you have failed.
YA instance of a (self-alleged) RSG “multimillionaire” being vain & bitter.
Hardly. I am neither vain nor bitter.
"...he vainly whined, so bitterly that his flecks of spittle tarnished the basement's linoleum floor." /s
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On the contrary, I have tried to pass the secret of my success to you libtards and have
been met with nothing but scorn and derision (which is why you dudes aren't successful).
Incorrect: your so-called 'secrets' weren't secrets at all, nor even about how to be successful
in business. They were just a couple of already-known strategies for personal income taxes.
FYI, it is hard to honestly claim that the disinclination was scornful/derisive when it was explained
as due to individual circumstances (e.g. insufficient age for RMDs, employer benefits) which was
what made them de-optimal strategies to be employed at present.
Perhaps what you're thinking of as derision was in how it was noted that you had exaggerated
on your claimed magnitude of savings? Or how your misrepresenting a mere two tips as "many"?
Nope. Attention to Detail is a time-tested attribute for success in life & business: try it sometime.
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Naturally, Tommy has provided zero quantified metrics for what anyone is
supposed to be jealous of him for. Perhaps it will be stomach acidity level?
You continually obliviate on it - that is ample evidence of jealousness.
Nah, it has merely become sport to remind you of your "emperor has no clothes" personal failure.
Because no one forced you to make your 'multimillionaire' claim, yet you did so & repeated that
many times. Your attempt to rub that in the face of others has backfired on you because you've
not ever substantiated your allegation, which is why it, like you, rings empty and hollow.
Hey Lyin' Asshole, you present a PHONY E-Trade transaction and you QUESTION my veracity???
Go back to the drawing board, bozo.
Oh, look: Tommy is back to that old diversion attempt again, only this time he's tried to move from
claiming it was a "very suspicious trade confirmation" to now alleging it was a "PHONY" one.
No proof again, of course.
"Go ahead and complain that this isn't good enough, but do so by leading by example, by posting your own
purchase order record of CVX to show what the minimum disclosure resolution is that you want to see."
Instead of leading by example, Tommy vainly just posts bitter another "Grandpa Simpson" rant.
LOL! Hey Lyin' Asshole, your phony Etrade confirmation shows a price of ONE DOLLAR and NOTHING
for the quantity. Now, are you claiming that is a REAL confirmation????
And no account number either: you're just confused because the redaction of that information
was done as white on transparent, which your image viewer represented as white on white: try
opening the file in a better GIF browser/editor to better reveal where the redactions were made.
Or ask nicely what contrasting color you want it changed to .. perhaps "cowardly Tommy yellow streak"?
Since that would be too much work for Tommy, here's an update of the substantiation, with the
redactions done in Tommy Yellow so that he can't legitimately complain about not being able to
<https://www.huntzinger.com/usenet/2022-TQQQ_redacted.gif>
Meantime, back on 3 Feb, we were told: “Prices have ALREADY factored those increases in and
company profits have ABSORBED those increases, so the market is GREEN-LIGHTED for an upside
move. In other words, we have already seen the market BOTTOM.”
But it appears that the Markets have had a difficult opinion of “bottom” than Tommy …
DJIA is currently down -800, of which -500 was just today. Similarly, Tommy’s favorite of TQQQ
was at $25.52 on the 3rd, but closed today at $22.35.
TQQQ closed out the week today at $21.77
Naturally, Tommy's in hiding, having called "BOTTOM" three weeks ago.
My, My! We haven't heard from the Lyin' Asshole on this topic for SOME TIME!
I wonder why?
Been busy doing other stuff. Roof replacement this past week.
Pics posted!
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Could it be because TQQQ closed yesterday at $36.82?
When it was over $80/share just eighteen months ago? Nah!
Hey you IDIOT - that is not what you were saying a couple of months ago.
Gosh, that’s an amazingly vague statement. You’ll have to provide
the exact quote, along with GG URL a link to the thread for context.
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My gain on TQQQ is now over FIFTY PERCENT!
My paper gain is bigger.
You can take your "paper gain" and wipe your ASS with it as that is ALL that it is good for!
Nah, it’s valuable enough just in how it makes that vein on your forehead pop.
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All that the Lyin' Asshole has to show is his obviously FAKE TRADE!
Still has more substantiation than your claim.
It is FAKE and you KNOW IT! I posted my trade when I made it.
How MUCH do you want to bet that it is FAKE?
Well, let’s see: just how many shares of TQQQ did you buy in total?
And how much cash are you willing to put into a third party escrow,
so as to deny either party the ability to Welch on any such wager?
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And you libtards have been WAY BEHIND THE CURVE on everything else,
calling for a market pullback, saying we should wait until even 2024 to
reenter the market!
Not what was actually said now, wasn’t it?
Pretty much was, asshole.
Nope. My comment was second half 2023, possibly into 2024.
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Especially since the historical trend is for the market bottom to be months after
the last Fed rate hike, and the Fed is coy on if they’re going to hike again later
this month or not, thanks to the stronger than expected jobs report last Friday.
How much have you LOST with that bit of so-called "intelligence?"
Less than you.
Pop that forehead vein again Tommy!
LOL! Hey Lyin' Asshole, you continue to make proclamations based on exactly ZERO evidence.
Nah, I’ve previously mentioned some of my sources, such as Ed Hyman.
I’m also not inclined to divulge information from advisers I’m paying for.
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The market has bottomed based on the major indices. This was confirmed by
the latest strong jobs report.
Except for how that jobs report is causing the Fed to deliberate on making yet
another interest rate hike later this month, and as we all know, rate hikes are
headwinds against the Equities markets. “Don’t Fight the Fed”, fool.
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I am sitting pretty while you are fretting over when to reenter the market.
Where “sitting pretty” means just what, specifically?
Plus you shouldn’t spout opinions when you’re not fully informed: I merely had
mentioned that that I had pulled some profits out back during the “melt up”, in
anticipation of Market corrections to then reinvest. If that approach is so foolish,
then why is Berkshire Hathaway holding larger cash right now too? It’s not like
< https://www.investopedia.com/berkshire-hathaway-annual-meeting-2023-7494837>
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All of your predictions are BUST, which is why you AREN'T a multimillionaire.
First, one doesn’t need to have perfect prognostication to do well.
Second, you’ve failed to substantiate your above claim.
Third, you’ve never substantiated your own wealth brag.
Tommy is having rampant personal insecurities rants…again.
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At least you can wipe your ass with them...
More like wiping the floor with you.
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BTW, I am willing to bet you AS MUCH as I invested in TQQQ - nothing like doubling my investment!
Given how you were previously unwilling to risk even $20 on a wager,
this would then have to be less than one (1) share of TQQQ.
-hh
And a little old "bump" for Tommy, so that he can reply to the correct thread.

Bottom line remains aways the same: Tommy will contrive some excuse to bail.
For example, he's been silent on the 3rd Party Escrow requirement.

-hh
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Well, after yesterday's correction, seems about right to pull on Tommy's
chain again on how well his 'TQQQ' is doing.
Meantime...
Probably time to check these again; midday 22 Aug 22
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[YTD's were as of 19 May 2022]
BCE (DIV 5.3%) +2.3% Aug --> -2.81%
BBY (DIV 3.5%) -23% Aug --> -20.43%
CVX (DIV 3.5%) +40% Aug --> +33.69%
ED (DIV 3.5%) +12% Aug --> +18.11%
ENB (DIV 6%) +16% Aug --> +13.26%
JNJ (DIV 2.4%) +3.3% Aug --> -0.32%
LMT (DIV 2.6%) +22% Aug --> +25.64%
NVS (DIV 2.5%) +1.8% Aug --> -2.74%
VTRS (DIV 4.5%) -14% Aug --> -22.55%
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Total portfolio slice is still net positive 'YTD', by +6.1%, which contrasts ever
so slightly to the likes of Tommy's TQQQ being down by a mere -66%.
YTD is still positive, at +4.65% whereas TQQQ at $32.4 is in the red at -62% ... although
to be fair, that is a four point recovery since May. Of course, this +4.65% is before
dividends (roughly +2.5%), so one could say that it is effectively at +7% YTD.
Been way too long since reporting back on this...
BCE (DIV 5.3%) -14%
BBY (DIV 3.5%) -18%
CVX (DIV 3.5%) +44%
ED (DIV 3.5%) +13%
ENB (DIV 6%) +1%
JNJ (DIV 2.4%) +5%
LMT (DIV 2.6%) +39%
NVS (DIV 2.5%) +4%
VTRS (DIV 4.5%) -18%
Total portfolio slice is still net positive 'YTD', by +5.54% on Equities values...plus, of
course, the dividends spun off...roughly another +3.77%, so approx. +9% paper return.
+7.34% appreciation, plus the dividends, so roughly a 10%-11% YoY return.
An update at this morning's market prices, which is roughly the two year point since purchase:

It looks like this portfolio segment has successfully held onto its equity (up by roughly +1.5%), plus has been providing
income at 3%/year in Qualified Dividends (which means it is taxed at the lower LTCG rate, not as Ordinary Income),
which was its intended objective in the pre-2022 pre-FED interest rate hike environment.
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Apologies, forgot to include the comparison back to TQQQ for Tommy.
TQQQ (close yesterday) at $18.27 ... down -17% since Tommy's claimed purchase of it
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.sport.golf/c/ooGucHaSsFI/m/DpkT6VenAwAJ>
Tommy's silent, of course, as TQQQ's back under $22/share.
-hh
Well, let's look at how Lyin' Asshole's strategy played out.
I figured you'd crawl back as soon as you were 'safely' above water.
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The Fed announced today a 0.25% rate hike and indicated they were close to the end of rate hikes.
"The Fed Raises Rates a Quarter Point and Signals More Ahead
America’s central bank has shifted into a new phase, raising rates
more slowly as inflation shows signs of moderating."
<https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/01/business/federal-reserve-interest-rates.html>
It includes a statement of "...“a couple more” rate increases..." too.
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This is what I was anticipating, and the market responded accordingly.
TQQQ is now at 24.39, giving me about an 11% gain in less than 90 days - not bad.
So? Does that mean that you sold today?
So, you STATED that I had a 20% LOSS w/o asking me if I had sold!
"Tommy's silent, of course, as TQQQ's back under $22/share. "
Plus Tommy's silent on if he's bailed out of TQQQ with just his 11% gain (before STCG taxes).
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WHY don't you maintain the same standards????
Sorry, but I *exceed* the standards that you use, by actually substantiating statements.
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More importantly, the trajectory going forward is much more likely to be up than down.
Yes, that's what the Fed said: "...“a couple more” rate increases...".
Or did you mean to suggest something else?
Hey Lyin' Asshole, I'm going to give you the MOST IMPORTANT piece of advice yet: the Fed is near
the end of their rate increases and the market KNOWS that. Prices have ALREADY factored those
increases in and company profits have ABSORBED those increases, so the market is GREEN-LIGHTED
for an upside move. In other words, we have already seen the market BOTTOM. Is that clear enough
for your peanut-sized brain??????
So you've definitively called the bottom. Does this also mean that you're also saying that there will be
no recession in 2023 either?
Hmmm...
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Meanwhile, the Lyin' Asshole has his thumb up his ass, not knowing what to do, but what else is new?
Golly, looks like Mr. Senile forgot that someone mentioned buying TQQQ in December
Hey LA, did you BUY TQQQ at that price? I DOUBT IT!!!!
<http://huntzinger.com/usenet/2022-TQQQ_redacted.gif>
Granted, it is redacted, but it is nevertheless sufficient to show a TQQQ purchase in December, at
a price whose first digit is a "1" instead of a "2". Go ahead and complain that this isn't good enough,
but do so by leading by example, by posting your own purchase order record of CVX to show what
the minimum disclosure resolution is that you want to see.
Still waiting.
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12/27/22 update: TQQQ low & close: $16.72 & $16.84
Looks like I can expect some paperwork in the mail from a certain limit order...
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Hmmm...that suggests something north of +40%, doesn't it?
Not for you because you DIDN'T BUY IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Except for how any TQQQ purchase below $20.00 versus your $24.39 price point
would be at least a +22% gain.
If PP = $19.50 --> +25%
If PP = $19.00 --> +28%
If PP = $18.50 --> +32%
If PP = $18.00 --> +36%
If PP = $17.50 --> +39%
If PP = $17.00 --> +43%
If PP = $16.50 --> +48%
etc
Meantime, today's jobs report was too strong, so Markets are dropping because they know
that that's meat for the Federal Reserve to keep on increasing rates for longer = a Tommy oops!
Without nitpicking, ...
This would be the part where Tommy tries to ignore that his call that the Feds have ended making
rate hikes is looking quite incorrect at the end of last week. Plus Tommy's silent on if he's bailed
out of TQQQ with just a 11% gain (before STCG taxes).
... its good to see that you followed my advice FOR ONCE!
Nah, the TQQQ holdings are insignificant: they're worth the entertainment value of seeing you
squirm, because no matter what brag you try to make, you know someone else is doing better than you.
The Lyin' Asshole's string of lies is unbroken: WHEN did I say that the Fed had ENDED their rate hikes?
"....indicated they were close to the end of rate hikes."
That's in conjunction and context with how you've not denied having also called the bottom already, as well as
the elaborations on how a bottom occurs only a few months before the last rate hikes. Together, it points to
the Fed's March meeting as being the last rate hike as being what you meant - - at the time you said it.
Naturally, now that the Fed has clearly said otherwise, you're trying to change what you meant, particularly
particularly since the June and even May Fed meeting dates are already too far into 2023 for a reasonable
expectation of a Fed rate cut occurring 2023, because any sort of Fed rates hold duration would be negated.
Meantime, you're silent on if you already bailed out of TQQQ at its 11% gain point (before STCG taxes).
Ditto on you providing clarity on if you're also saying that there will be no recession in 2023 either.
As well as your mystery purchase record on CVX....oh, gosh on INTC too (purchased claimed prior to 11 Jan 22)
31 Dec 21: $48.94**
11 Jan 22: $52.46
11 Feb 23: $27.80
** - adjusted close; lowest daily non-adjusted low for 10/31/21 through 1/11/22 was $49.18
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Hey Asshole, at least you ADMIT that I didn't say the Fed was DONE with rate hikes.
There are, at least, two more rate hikes in the works, PROBABLY (note I am not declaring this) 0.25% each.
Oh, so it’s “at least two”? That’s what’s now supposed to be “close”? This pushes out the first
meeting with no expected rate hike to mid-June, so where does that now place your bottom,
for which you’ve previously said “I am saying that the market is going thru a bottoming process
this quarter.”, which ends in just 51 days? Trying to copy my 1H comment?
So, now you are arguing about what "close" means. Sorry, but your sorry ass
doesn't deserve an education in that.
Nope, just illustrating how you’re trying to [use] a rubber ruler…again. And got caught…again.
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We have ALREADY had our recession which you profoundly waffled about.
No, NBER is the authority on that, and they’ve not made that call. Sorry.
Sorry, but we WERE.
Nope. No matter what you want to believe, NBER has not made that determination.
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I have ALREADY put you on notice that I AM NOT informing you of all my trades, …
Non sequitur, as you’ve been on notice yourself that you can’t make any claims on any
trades that you’ve not posted prior adequate notice. Thus, you’ll no longer be able to
cherry-pick from your entire portfolio to find a winner to claim…unless you choose to
disclose your entire portfolio, of course.
You are a PIECE OF WORK, Asshole! I owe you exactly NOTHING, which is exactly
what you DESERVE. You are a loser living a life of quiet desperation that looks at
diminishing those that have done better than you.
Golly, that reflection you see of yourself in the mirror really is quite ugly, isn’t it?
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… just as YOU are not doing the same (and, now, declaring that you bought TQQQ
with a very suspicious trade confirmation).
Nah, you’ve already been told to provide an example of your own trades with the level
of detail you’re trying to complain about not getting from others…and have not done so.
Silence from Tommy.
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Let's face it: you're jealous of my success and want to belittle it at every opportunity.
So be it - you are welcome to wallow in your proven mediocrity.
Sorry, but you do that all on your own and to yourself. No one here has any reason
to be in the least jealous of your little goldfish bowl’s echo chamber.
Yeah, right - coming from a loser.
Nah, the problem you have Tommy is that I’ve not tried to brag as much as you, so
you’re stuck in the “absence of evidence is not evidence of absence” logical trap.
Plus even when I’ve dropped clues, you’ve been unable and/or unwilling to
comprehend and/or acknowledge their significance. Your loss, not mine.
BTW, a retired friend sent me these two links recently; first is an illustration
whereas the second is a quasi-analysis…a bit overly broad, but nevertheless
< https://www.bogleheads.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=396981&sid=7b59bcd7747813e9852733284ece221f>
< https://bowtiedbull.substack.com/p/going-through-levels-of-wealth>
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Common tells of the Upper Middle Class belief system
* Absolute obsession with being seen as important...
* Insecurity...
* Passive aggressive behavior...Constant emphasis on how “high they are up the chain”.
* Obsession with “comp”....common for them to prod and try to figure out how much you make...
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Your attempt at psychoanalysis is PATHETIC, Lyin' Asshole.
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* Insecurity...
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Nope: <https://bowtiedbull.substack.com/p/going-through-levels-of-wealth>
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The bottom line is the same: you just live a miserable life jealous of others
who have succeeded where you have failed.
YA instance of a (self-alleged) RSG “multimillionaire” being vain & bitter.
Hardly. I am neither vain nor bitter.
"...he vainly whined, so bitterly that his flecks of spittle tarnished the basement's linoleum floor." /s
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On the contrary, I have tried to pass the secret of my success to you libtards and have
been met with nothing but scorn and derision (which is why you dudes aren't successful).
Incorrect: your so-called 'secrets' weren't secrets at all, nor even about how to be successful
in business. They were just a couple of already-known strategies for personal income taxes.
FYI, it is hard to honestly claim that the disinclination was scornful/derisive when it was explained
as due to individual circumstances (e.g. insufficient age for RMDs, employer benefits) which was
what made them de-optimal strategies to be employed at present.
Perhaps what you're thinking of as derision was in how it was noted that you had exaggerated
on your claimed magnitude of savings? Or how your misrepresenting a mere two tips as "many"?
Nope. Attention to Detail is a time-tested attribute for success in life & business: try it sometime.
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Naturally, Tommy has provided zero quantified metrics for what anyone is
supposed to be jealous of him for. Perhaps it will be stomach acidity level?
You continually obliviate on it - that is ample evidence of jealousness.
Nah, it has merely become sport to remind you of your "emperor has no clothes" personal failure.
Because no one forced you to make your 'multimillionaire' claim, yet you did so & repeated that
many times. Your attempt to rub that in the face of others has backfired on you because you've
not ever substantiated your allegation, which is why it, like you, rings empty and hollow.
Hey Lyin' Asshole, you present a PHONY E-Trade transaction and you QUESTION my veracity???
Go back to the drawing board, bozo.
Oh, look: Tommy is back to that old diversion attempt again, only this time he's tried to move from
claiming it was a "very suspicious trade confirmation" to now alleging it was a "PHONY" one.
No proof again, of course.
"Go ahead and complain that this isn't good enough, but do so by leading by example, by posting your own
purchase order record of CVX to show what the minimum disclosure resolution is that you want to see."
Instead of leading by example, Tommy vainly just posts bitter another "Grandpa Simpson" rant.
LOL! Hey Lyin' Asshole, your phony Etrade confirmation shows a price of ONE DOLLAR and NOTHING
for the quantity. Now, are you claiming that is a REAL confirmation????
And no account number either: you're just confused because the redaction of that information
was done as white on transparent, which your image viewer represented as white on white: try
opening the file in a better GIF browser/editor to better reveal where the redactions were made.
Or ask nicely what contrasting color you want it changed to .. perhaps "cowardly Tommy yellow streak"?
Since that would be too much work for Tommy, here's an update of the substantiation, with the
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Meantime, back on 3 Feb, we were told: “Prices have ALREADY factored those increases in and
company profits have ABSORBED those increases, so the market is GREEN-LIGHTED for an upside
move. In other words, we have already seen the market BOTTOM.”
But it appears that the Markets have had a difficult opinion of “bottom” than Tommy …
DJIA is currently down -800, of which -500 was just today. Similarly, Tommy’s favorite of TQQQ
was at $25.52 on the 3rd, but closed today at $22.35.
TQQQ closed out the week today at $21.77
Naturally, Tommy's in hiding, having called "BOTTOM" three weeks ago.
My, My! We haven't heard from the Lyin' Asshole on this topic for SOME TIME!
I wonder why?
Been busy doing other stuff. Roof replacement this past week.
Pics posted!
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Could it be because TQQQ closed yesterday at $36.82?
When it was over $80/share just eighteen months ago? Nah!
Hey you IDIOT - that is not what you were saying a couple of months ago.
Gosh, that’s an amazingly vague statement. You’ll have to provide
the exact quote, along with GG URL a link to the thread for context.
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My gain on TQQQ is now over FIFTY PERCENT!
My paper gain is bigger.
You can take your "paper gain" and wipe your ASS with it as that is ALL that it is good for!
Nah, it’s valuable enough just in how it makes that vein on your forehead pop.
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All that the Lyin' Asshole has to show is his obviously FAKE TRADE!
Still has more substantiation than your claim.
It is FAKE and you KNOW IT! I posted my trade when I made it.
How MUCH do you want to bet that it is FAKE?
Well, let’s see: just how many shares of TQQQ did you buy in total?
And how much cash are you willing to put into a third party escrow,
so as to deny either party the ability to Welch on any such wager?
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And you libtards have been WAY BEHIND THE CURVE on everything else,
calling for a market pullback, saying we should wait until even 2024 to
reenter the market!
Not what was actually said now, wasn’t it?
Pretty much was, asshole.
Nope. My comment was second half 2023, possibly into 2024.
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Especially since the historical trend is for the market bottom to be months after
the last Fed rate hike, and the Fed is coy on if they’re going to hike again later
this month or not, thanks to the stronger than expected jobs report last Friday.
How much have you LOST with that bit of so-called "intelligence?"
Less than you.
Pop that forehead vein again Tommy!
LOL! Hey Lyin' Asshole, you continue to make proclamations based on exactly ZERO evidence.
Nah, I’ve previously mentioned some of my sources, such as Ed Hyman.
I’m also not inclined to divulge information from advisers I’m paying for.
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The market has bottomed based on the major indices. This was confirmed by
the latest strong jobs report.
Except for how that jobs report is causing the Fed to deliberate on making yet
another interest rate hike later this month, and as we all know, rate hikes are
headwinds against the Equities markets. “Don’t Fight the Fed”, fool.
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I am sitting pretty while you are fretting over when to reenter the market.
Where “sitting pretty” means just what, specifically?
Plus you shouldn’t spout opinions when you’re not fully informed: I merely had
mentioned that that I had pulled some profits out back during the “melt up”, in
anticipation of Market corrections to then reinvest. If that approach is so foolish,
then why is Berkshire Hathaway holding larger cash right now too? It’s not like
< https://www.investopedia.com/berkshire-hathaway-annual-meeting-2023-7494837>
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All of your predictions are BUST, which is why you AREN'T a multimillionaire.
First, one doesn’t need to have perfect prognostication to do well.
Second, you’ve failed to substantiate your above claim.
Third, you’ve never substantiated your own wealth brag.
Tommy is having rampant personal insecurities rants…again.
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At least you can wipe your ass with them...
More like wiping the floor with you.
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BTW, I am willing to bet you AS MUCH as I invested in TQQQ - nothing like doubling my investment!
Given how you were previously unwilling to risk even $20 on a wager,
this would then have to be less than one (1) share of TQQQ.
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And a little old "bump" for Tommy, so that he can reply to the correct thread.
Insofar as TQQQ, its currently at just ~$51/share, so its well below its 2021 peak of nearly $90/share,
and we have no particular assurances that Tommy didn't already bail out long ago on his alleged
$22-ish purchase, rather than to have waited to have gained more, for TQQQ has regained ~$20/share
since just before Halloween.
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Bottom line remains aways the same: Tommy will contrive some excuse to bail.
For example, he's been silent on the 3rd Party Escrow requirement.
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[YTD's were as of 19 May 2022]
BCE (DIV 5.3%) +2.3% Aug --> -2.81%
BBY (DIV 3.5%) -23% Aug --> -20.43%
CVX (DIV 3.5%) +40% Aug --> +33.69%
ED (DIV 3.5%) +12% Aug --> +18.11%
ENB (DIV 6%) +16% Aug --> +13.26%
JNJ (DIV 2.4%) +3.3% Aug --> -0.32%
LMT (DIV 2.6%) +22% Aug --> +25.64%
NVS (DIV 2.5%) +1.8% Aug --> -2.74%
VTRS (DIV 4.5%) -14% Aug --> -22.55%
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Total portfolio slice is still net positive 'YTD', by +6.1%, which contrasts ever
so slightly to the likes of Tommy's TQQQ being down by a mere -66%.
YTD is still positive, at +4.65% whereas TQQQ at $32.4 is in the red at -62% ... although
to be fair, that is a four point recovery since May. Of course, this +4.65% is before
dividends (roughly +2.5%), so one could say that it is effectively at +7% YTD.
Been way too long since reporting back on this...
BCE (DIV 5.3%) -14%
BBY (DIV 3.5%) -18%
CVX (DIV 3.5%) +44%
ED (DIV 3.5%) +13%
ENB (DIV 6%) +1%
JNJ (DIV 2.4%) +5%
LMT (DIV 2.6%) +39%
NVS (DIV 2.5%) +4%
VTRS (DIV 4.5%) -18%
Total portfolio slice is still net positive 'YTD', by +5.54% on Equities values...plus, of
course, the dividends spun off...roughly another +3.77%, so approx. +9% paper return.
+7.34% appreciation, plus the dividends, so roughly a 10%-11% YoY return.
It looks like this portfolio segment has successfully held onto its equity (up by roughly +1.5%), plus has been providing
income at 3%/year in Qualified Dividends (which means it is taxed at the lower LTCG rate, not as Ordinary Income),
which was its intended objective in the pre-2022 pre-FED interest rate hike environment.
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TQQQ (close yesterday) at $18.27 ... down -17% since Tommy's claimed purchase of it
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.sport.golf/c/ooGucHaSsFI/m/DpkT6VenAwAJ>
Tommy's silent, of course, as TQQQ's back under $22/share.
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Well, let's look at how Lyin' Asshole's strategy played out.
I figured you'd crawl back as soon as you were 'safely' above water.
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The Fed announced today a 0.25% rate hike and indicated they were close to the end of rate hikes.
"The Fed Raises Rates a Quarter Point and Signals More Ahead
America’s central bank has shifted into a new phase, raising rates
more slowly as inflation shows signs of moderating."
<https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/01/business/federal-reserve-interest-rates.html>
It includes a statement of "...“a couple more” rate increases..." too.
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This is what I was anticipating, and the market responded accordingly.
TQQQ is now at 24.39, giving me about an 11% gain in less than 90 days - not bad.
So? Does that mean that you sold today?
So, you STATED that I had a 20% LOSS w/o asking me if I had sold!
"Tommy's silent, of course, as TQQQ's back under $22/share. "
Plus Tommy's silent on if he's bailed out of TQQQ with just his 11% gain (before STCG taxes).
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WHY don't you maintain the same standards????
Sorry, but I *exceed* the standards that you use, by actually substantiating statements.
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More importantly, the trajectory going forward is much more likely to be up than down.
Yes, that's what the Fed said: "...“a couple more” rate increases...".
Or did you mean to suggest something else?
Hey Lyin' Asshole, I'm going to give you the MOST IMPORTANT piece of advice yet: the Fed is near
the end of their rate increases and the market KNOWS that. Prices have ALREADY factored those
increases in and company profits have ABSORBED those increases, so the market is GREEN-LIGHTED
for an upside move. In other words, we have already seen the market BOTTOM. Is that clear enough
for your peanut-sized brain??????
So you've definitively called the bottom. Does this also mean that you're also saying that there will be
no recession in 2023 either?
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Meanwhile, the Lyin' Asshole has his thumb up his ass, not knowing what to do, but what else is new?
Golly, looks like Mr. Senile forgot that someone mentioned buying TQQQ in December
Hey LA, did you BUY TQQQ at that price? I DOUBT IT!!!!
<http://huntzinger.com/usenet/2022-TQQQ_redacted.gif>
Granted, it is redacted, but it is nevertheless sufficient to show a TQQQ purchase in December, at
a price whose first digit is a "1" instead of a "2". Go ahead and complain that this isn't good enough,
but do so by leading by example, by posting your own purchase order record of CVX to show what
the minimum disclosure resolution is that you want to see.
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Hmmm...that suggests something north of +40%, doesn't it?
Not for you because you DIDN'T BUY IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Except for how any TQQQ purchase below $20.00 versus your $24.39 price point
would be at least a +22% gain.
If PP = $19.50 --> +25%
If PP = $19.00 --> +28%
If PP = $18.50 --> +32%
If PP = $18.00 --> +36%
If PP = $17.50 --> +39%
If PP = $17.00 --> +43%
If PP = $16.50 --> +48%
etc
Meantime, today's jobs report was too strong, so Markets are dropping because they know
that that's meat for the Federal Reserve to keep on increasing rates for longer = a Tommy oops!
Without nitpicking, ...
This would be the part where Tommy tries to ignore that his call that the Feds have ended making
rate hikes is looking quite incorrect at the end of last week. Plus Tommy's silent on if he's bailed
out of TQQQ with just a 11% gain (before STCG taxes).
... its good to see that you followed my advice FOR ONCE!
Nah, the TQQQ holdings are insignificant: they're worth the entertainment value of seeing you
squirm, because no matter what brag you try to make, you know someone else is doing better than you.
The Lyin' Asshole's string of lies is unbroken: WHEN did I say that the Fed had ENDED their rate hikes?
"....indicated they were close to the end of rate hikes."
That's in conjunction and context with how you've not denied having also called the bottom already, as well as
the elaborations on how a bottom occurs only a few months before the last rate hikes. Together, it points to
the Fed's March meeting as being the last rate hike as being what you meant - - at the time you said it.
Naturally, now that the Fed has clearly said otherwise, you're trying to change what you meant, particularly
particularly since the June and even May Fed meeting dates are already too far into 2023 for a reasonable
expectation of a Fed rate cut occurring 2023, because any sort of Fed rates hold duration would be negated.
Meantime, you're silent on if you already bailed out of TQQQ at its 11% gain point (before STCG taxes).
Ditto on you providing clarity on if you're also saying that there will be no recession in 2023 either.
As well as your mystery purchase record on CVX....oh, gosh on INTC too (purchased claimed prior to 11 Jan 22)
31 Dec 21: $48.94**
11 Jan 22: $52.46
11 Feb 23: $27.80
** - adjusted close; lowest daily non-adjusted low for 10/31/21 through 1/11/22 was $49.18
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Hey Asshole, at least you ADMIT that I didn't say the Fed was DONE with rate hikes.
There are, at least, two more rate hikes in the works, PROBABLY (note I am not declaring this) 0.25% each.
Oh, so it’s “at least two”? That’s what’s now supposed to be “close”? This pushes out the first
meeting with no expected rate hike to mid-June, so where does that now place your bottom,
for which you’ve previously said “I am saying that the market is going thru a bottoming process
this quarter.”, which ends in just 51 days? Trying to copy my 1H comment?
So, now you are arguing about what "close" means. Sorry, but your sorry ass
doesn't deserve an education in that.
Nope, just illustrating how you’re trying to [use] a rubber ruler…again. And got caught…again.
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We have ALREADY had our recession which you profoundly waffled about.
No, NBER is the authority on that, and they’ve not made that call. Sorry.
Sorry, but we WERE.
Nope. No matter what you want to believe, NBER has not made that determination.
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I have ALREADY put you on notice that I AM NOT informing you of all my trades, …
Non sequitur, as you’ve been on notice yourself that you can’t make any claims on any
trades that you’ve not posted prior adequate notice. Thus, you’ll no longer be able to
cherry-pick from your entire portfolio to find a winner to claim…unless you choose to
disclose your entire portfolio, of course.
You are a PIECE OF WORK, Asshole! I owe you exactly NOTHING, which is exactly
what you DESERVE. You are a loser living a life of quiet desperation that looks at
diminishing those that have done better than you.
Golly, that reflection you see of yourself in the mirror really is quite ugly, isn’t it?
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… just as YOU are not doing the same (and, now, declaring that you bought TQQQ
with a very suspicious trade confirmation).
Nah, you’ve already been told to provide an example of your own trades with the level
of detail you’re trying to complain about not getting from others…and have not done so.
Silence from Tommy.
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Let's face it: you're jealous of my success and want to belittle it at every opportunity.
So be it - you are welcome to wallow in your proven mediocrity.
Sorry, but you do that all on your own and to yourself. No one here has any reason
to be in the least jealous of your little goldfish bowl’s echo chamber.
Yeah, right - coming from a loser.
Nah, the problem you have Tommy is that I’ve not tried to brag as much as you, so
you’re stuck in the “absence of evidence is not evidence of absence” logical trap.
Plus even when I’ve dropped clues, you’ve been unable and/or unwilling to
comprehend and/or acknowledge their significance. Your loss, not mine.
BTW, a retired friend sent me these two links recently; first is an illustration
whereas the second is a quasi-analysis…a bit overly broad, but nevertheless
< https://www.bogleheads.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=396981&sid=7b59bcd7747813e9852733284ece221f>
< https://bowtiedbull.substack.com/p/going-through-levels-of-wealth>
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Common tells of the Upper Middle Class belief system
* Absolute obsession with being seen as important...
* Insecurity...
* Passive aggressive behavior...Constant emphasis on how “high they are up the chain”.
* Obsession with “comp”....common for them to prod and try to figure out how much you make...
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Your attempt at psychoanalysis is PATHETIC, Lyin' Asshole.
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* Insecurity...
* Passive aggressive behavior...Constant emphasis on how “high they are up the chain”.
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Nope: <https://bowtiedbull.substack.com/p/going-through-levels-of-wealth>
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The bottom line is the same: you just live a miserable life jealous of others
who have succeeded where you have failed.
YA instance of a (self-alleged) RSG “multimillionaire” being vain & bitter.
Hardly. I am neither vain nor bitter.
"...he vainly whined, so bitterly that his flecks of spittle tarnished the basement's linoleum floor." /s
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On the contrary, I have tried to pass the secret of my success to you libtards and have
been met with nothing but scorn and derision (which is why you dudes aren't successful).
Incorrect: your so-called 'secrets' weren't secrets at all, nor even about how to be successful
in business. They were just a couple of already-known strategies for personal income taxes.
FYI, it is hard to honestly claim that the disinclination was scornful/derisive when it was explained
as due to individual circumstances (e.g. insufficient age for RMDs, employer benefits) which was
what made them de-optimal strategies to be employed at present.
Perhaps what you're thinking of as derision was in how it was noted that you had exaggerated
on your claimed magnitude of savings? Or how your misrepresenting a mere two tips as "many"?
Nope. Attention to Detail is a time-tested attribute for success in life & business: try it sometime.
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Naturally, Tommy has provided zero quantified metrics for what anyone is
supposed to be jealous of him for. Perhaps it will be stomach acidity level?
You continually obliviate on it - that is ample evidence of jealousness.
Nah, it has merely become sport to remind you of your "emperor has no clothes" personal failure.
Because no one forced you to make your 'multimillionaire' claim, yet you did so & repeated that
many times. Your attempt to rub that in the face of others has backfired on you because you've
not ever substantiated your allegation, which is why it, like you, rings empty and hollow.
Hey Lyin' Asshole, you present a PHONY E-Trade transaction and you QUESTION my veracity???
Go back to the drawing board, bozo.
Oh, look: Tommy is back to that old diversion attempt again, only this time he's tried to move from
claiming it was a "very suspicious trade confirmation" to now alleging it was a "PHONY" one.
No proof again, of course.
"Go ahead and complain that this isn't good enough, but do so by leading by example, by posting your own
purchase order record of CVX to show what the minimum disclosure resolution is that you want to see."
Instead of leading by example, Tommy vainly just posts bitter another "Grandpa Simpson" rant.
LOL! Hey Lyin' Asshole, your phony Etrade confirmation shows a price of ONE DOLLAR and NOTHING
for the quantity. Now, are you claiming that is a REAL confirmation????
And no account number either: you're just confused because the redaction of that information
was done as white on transparent, which your image viewer represented as white on white: try
opening the file in a better GIF browser/editor to better reveal where the redactions were made.
Or ask nicely what contrasting color you want it changed to .. perhaps "cowardly Tommy yellow streak"?
Since that would be too much work for Tommy, here's an update of the substantiation, with the
redactions done in Tommy Yellow so that he can't legitimately complain about not being able to
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Meantime, back on 3 Feb, we were told: “Prices have ALREADY factored those increases in and
company profits have ABSORBED those increases, so the market is GREEN-LIGHTED for an upside
move. In other words, we have already seen the market BOTTOM.”
But it appears that the Markets have had a difficult opinion of “bottom” than Tommy …
DJIA is currently down -800, of which -500 was just today. Similarly, Tommy’s favorite of TQQQ
was at $25.52 on the 3rd, but closed today at $22.35.
TQQQ closed out the week today at $21.77
Naturally, Tommy's in hiding, having called "BOTTOM" three weeks ago.
My, My! We haven't heard from the Lyin' Asshole on this topic for SOME TIME!
I wonder why?
Been busy doing other stuff. Roof replacement this past week.
Pics posted!
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Could it be because TQQQ closed yesterday at $36.82?
When it was over $80/share just eighteen months ago? Nah!
Hey you IDIOT - that is not what you were saying a couple of months ago.
Gosh, that’s an amazingly vague statement. You’ll have to provide
the exact quote, along with GG URL a link to the thread for context.
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My gain on TQQQ is now over FIFTY PERCENT!
My paper gain is bigger.
You can take your "paper gain" and wipe your ASS with it as that is ALL that it is good for!
Nah, it’s valuable enough just in how it makes that vein on your forehead pop.
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All that the Lyin' Asshole has to show is his obviously FAKE TRADE!
Still has more substantiation than your claim.
It is FAKE and you KNOW IT! I posted my trade when I made it.
How MUCH do you want to bet that it is FAKE?
Well, let’s see: just how many shares of TQQQ did you buy in total?
And how much cash are you willing to put into a third party escrow,
so as to deny either party the ability to Welch on any such wager?
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And you libtards have been WAY BEHIND THE CURVE on everything else,
calling for a market pullback, saying we should wait until even 2024 to
reenter the market!
Not what was actually said now, wasn’t it?
Pretty much was, asshole.
Nope. My comment was second half 2023, possibly into 2024.
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Especially since the historical trend is for the market bottom to be months after
the last Fed rate hike, and the Fed is coy on if they’re going to hike again later
this month or not, thanks to the stronger than expected jobs report last Friday.
How much have you LOST with that bit of so-called "intelligence?"
Less than you.
Pop that forehead vein again Tommy!
LOL! Hey Lyin' Asshole, you continue to make proclamations based on exactly ZERO evidence.
Nah, I’ve previously mentioned some of my sources, such as Ed Hyman.
I’m also not inclined to divulge information from advisers I’m paying for.
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The market has bottomed based on the major indices. This was confirmed by
the latest strong jobs report.
Except for how that jobs report is causing the Fed to deliberate on making yet
another interest rate hike later this month, and as we all know, rate hikes are
headwinds against the Equities markets. “Don’t Fight the Fed”, fool.
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I am sitting pretty while you are fretting over when to reenter the market.
Where “sitting pretty” means just what, specifically?
Plus you shouldn’t spout opinions when you’re not fully informed: I merely had
mentioned that that I had pulled some profits out back during the “melt up”, in
anticipation of Market corrections to then reinvest. If that approach is so foolish,
then why is Berkshire Hathaway holding larger cash right now too? It’s not like
< https://www.investopedia.com/berkshire-hathaway-annual-meeting-2023-7494837>
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All of your predictions are BUST, which is why you AREN'T a multimillionaire.
First, one doesn’t need to have perfect prognostication to do well.
Second, you’ve failed to substantiate your above claim.
Third, you’ve never substantiated your own wealth brag.
Tommy is having rampant personal insecurities rants…again.
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At least you can wipe your ass with them...
More like wiping the floor with you.
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BTW, I am willing to bet you AS MUCH as I invested in TQQQ - nothing like doubling my investment!
Given how you were previously unwilling to risk even $20 on a wager,
this would then have to be less than one (1) share of TQQQ.
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And a little old "bump" for Tommy, so that he can reply to the correct thread.
Insofar as TQQQ, its currently at just ~$51/share, so its well below its 2021 peak of nearly $90/share,
and we have no particular assurances that Tommy didn't already bail out long ago on his alleged
$22-ish purchase, …
..since Tommy was notoriously loud on his alledged “momentum” speculation trades.

Was reminded of this today when reading a Morningstar retrospective, which contained
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…Warren Buffett’s advice on guru forecasts: “We have long felt that the only value
of stock forecasters is to make fortunetellers look good. Even now, Charlie [Munger]
and I continue to believe that short-term market forecasts are poison and should be
kept locked up in a safe place, away from children and also from grown-ups who
behave in the market like children.”

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< https://stocks.apple.com/A2ZrsXSkNR7C_sZtE9mC0QQ>

Yup, that last line was the kicker.

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BCE (DIV 5.3%) +2.3% Aug --> -2.81%
BBY (DIV 3.5%) -23% Aug --> -20.43%
CVX (DIV 3.5%) +40% Aug --> +33.69%
ED (DIV 3.5%) +12% Aug --> +18.11%
ENB (DIV 6%) +16% Aug --> +13.26%
JNJ (DIV 2.4%) +3.3% Aug --> -0.32%
LMT (DIV 2.6%) +22% Aug --> +25.64%
NVS (DIV 2.5%) +1.8% Aug --> -2.74%
VTRS (DIV 4.5%) -14% Aug --> -22.55%
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Total portfolio slice is still net positive 'YTD', by +6.1%, which contrasts ever
so slightly to the likes of Tommy's TQQQ being down by a mere -66%.
YTD is still positive, at +4.65% whereas TQQQ at $32.4 is in the red at -62% ... although
to be fair, that is a four point recovery since May. Of course, this +4.65% is before
dividends (roughly +2.5%), so one could say that it is effectively at +7% YTD.
Been way too long since reporting back on this...
BCE (DIV 5.3%) -14%
BBY (DIV 3.5%) -18%
CVX (DIV 3.5%) +44%
ED (DIV 3.5%) +13%
ENB (DIV 6%) +1%
JNJ (DIV 2.4%) +5%
LMT (DIV 2.6%) +39%
NVS (DIV 2.5%) +4%
VTRS (DIV 4.5%) -18%
Total portfolio slice is still net positive 'YTD', by +5.54% on Equities values...plus, of
course, the dividends spun off...roughly another +3.77%, so approx. +9% paper return.
+7.34% appreciation, plus the dividends, so roughly a 10%-11% YoY return.
It looks like this portfolio segment has successfully held onto its equity (up by roughly +1.5%), plus has been providing
income at 3%/year in Qualified Dividends (which means it is taxed at the lower LTCG rate, not as Ordinary Income),
which was its intended objective in the pre-2022 pre-FED interest rate hike environment.
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TQQQ (close yesterday) at $18.27 ... down -17% since Tommy's claimed purchase of it
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.sport.golf/c/ooGucHaSsFI/m/DpkT6VenAwAJ>
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Well, let's look at how Lyin' Asshole's strategy played out.
I figured you'd crawl back as soon as you were 'safely' above water.
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The Fed announced today a 0.25% rate hike and indicated they were close to the end of rate hikes.
"The Fed Raises Rates a Quarter Point and Signals More Ahead
America’s central bank has shifted into a new phase, raising rates
more slowly as inflation shows signs of moderating."
<https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/01/business/federal-reserve-interest-rates.html>
It includes a statement of "...“a couple more” rate increases..." too.
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This is what I was anticipating, and the market responded accordingly.
TQQQ is now at 24.39, giving me about an 11% gain in less than 90 days - not bad.
So? Does that mean that you sold today?
So, you STATED that I had a 20% LOSS w/o asking me if I had sold!
"Tommy's silent, of course, as TQQQ's back under $22/share. "
Plus Tommy's silent on if he's bailed out of TQQQ with just his 11% gain (before STCG taxes).
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WHY don't you maintain the same standards????
Sorry, but I *exceed* the standards that you use, by actually substantiating statements.
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More importantly, the trajectory going forward is much more likely to be up than down.
Yes, that's what the Fed said: "...“a couple more” rate increases...".
Or did you mean to suggest something else?
Hey Lyin' Asshole, I'm going to give you the MOST IMPORTANT piece of advice yet: the Fed is near
the end of their rate increases and the market KNOWS that. Prices have ALREADY factored those
increases in and company profits have ABSORBED those increases, so the market is GREEN-LIGHTED
for an upside move. In other words, we have already seen the market BOTTOM. Is that clear enough
for your peanut-sized brain??????
So you've definitively called the bottom. Does this also mean that you're also saying that there will be
no recession in 2023 either?
Hmmm...
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Meanwhile, the Lyin' Asshole has his thumb up his ass, not knowing what to do, but what else is new?
Golly, looks like Mr. Senile forgot that someone mentioned buying TQQQ in December
Hey LA, did you BUY TQQQ at that price? I DOUBT IT!!!!
<http://huntzinger.com/usenet/2022-TQQQ_redacted.gif>
Granted, it is redacted, but it is nevertheless sufficient to show a TQQQ purchase in December, at
a price whose first digit is a "1" instead of a "2". Go ahead and complain that this isn't good enough,
but do so by leading by example, by posting your own purchase order record of CVX to show what
the minimum disclosure resolution is that you want to see.
Still waiting.
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12/27/22 update: TQQQ low & close: $16.72 & $16.84
Looks like I can expect some paperwork in the mail from a certain limit order...
[/quote]
Hmmm...that suggests something north of +40%, doesn't it?
Not for you because you DIDN'T BUY IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Except for how any TQQQ purchase below $20.00 versus your $24.39 price point
would be at least a +22% gain.
If PP = $19.50 --> +25%
If PP = $19.00 --> +28%
If PP = $18.50 --> +32%
If PP = $18.00 --> +36%
If PP = $17.50 --> +39%
If PP = $17.00 --> +43%
If PP = $16.50 --> +48%
etc
Meantime, today's jobs report was too strong, so Markets are dropping because they know
that that's meat for the Federal Reserve to keep on increasing rates for longer = a Tommy oops!
Without nitpicking, ...
This would be the part where Tommy tries to ignore that his call that the Feds have ended making
rate hikes is looking quite incorrect at the end of last week. Plus Tommy's silent on if he's bailed
out of TQQQ with just a 11% gain (before STCG taxes).
... its good to see that you followed my advice FOR ONCE!
Nah, the TQQQ holdings are insignificant: they're worth the entertainment value of seeing you
squirm, because no matter what brag you try to make, you know someone else is doing better than you.
The Lyin' Asshole's string of lies is unbroken: WHEN did I say that the Fed had ENDED their rate hikes?
"....indicated they were close to the end of rate hikes."
That's in conjunction and context with how you've not denied having also called the bottom already, as well as
the elaborations on how a bottom occurs only a few months before the last rate hikes. Together, it points to
the Fed's March meeting as being the last rate hike as being what you meant - - at the time you said it.
Naturally, now that the Fed has clearly said otherwise, you're trying to change what you meant, particularly
particularly since the June and even May Fed meeting dates are already too far into 2023 for a reasonable
expectation of a Fed rate cut occurring 2023, because any sort of Fed rates hold duration would be negated.
Meantime, you're silent on if you already bailed out of TQQQ at its 11% gain point (before STCG taxes).
Ditto on you providing clarity on if you're also saying that there will be no recession in 2023 either.
As well as your mystery purchase record on CVX....oh, gosh on INTC too (purchased claimed prior to 11 Jan 22)
31 Dec 21: $48.94**
11 Jan 22: $52.46
11 Feb 23: $27.80
** - adjusted close; lowest daily non-adjusted low for 10/31/21 through 1/11/22 was $49.18
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Hey Asshole, at least you ADMIT that I didn't say the Fed was DONE with rate hikes.
There are, at least, two more rate hikes in the works, PROBABLY (note I am not declaring this) 0.25% each.
Oh, so it’s “at least two”? That’s what’s now supposed to be “close”? This pushes out the first
meeting with no expected rate hike to mid-June, so where does that now place your bottom,
for which you’ve previously said “I am saying that the market is going thru a bottoming process
this quarter.”, which ends in just 51 days? Trying to copy my 1H comment?
So, now you are arguing about what "close" means. Sorry, but your sorry ass
doesn't deserve an education in that.
Nope, just illustrating how you’re trying to [use] a rubber ruler…again. And got caught…again.
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We have ALREADY had our recession which you profoundly waffled about.
No, NBER is the authority on that, and they’ve not made that call. Sorry.
Sorry, but we WERE.
Nope. No matter what you want to believe, NBER has not made that determination.
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I have ALREADY put you on notice that I AM NOT informing you of all my trades, …
Non sequitur, as you’ve been on notice yourself that you can’t make any claims on any
trades that you’ve not posted prior adequate notice. Thus, you’ll no longer be able to
cherry-pick from your entire portfolio to find a winner to claim…unless you choose to
disclose your entire portfolio, of course.
You are a PIECE OF WORK, Asshole! I owe you exactly NOTHING, which is exactly
what you DESERVE. You are a loser living a life of quiet desperation that looks at
diminishing those that have done better than you.
Golly, that reflection you see of yourself in the mirror really is quite ugly, isn’t it?
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… just as YOU are not doing the same (and, now, declaring that you bought TQQQ
with a very suspicious trade confirmation).
Nah, you’ve already been told to provide an example of your own trades with the level
of detail you’re trying to complain about not getting from others…and have not done so.
Silence from Tommy.
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Let's face it: you're jealous of my success and want to belittle it at every opportunity.
So be it - you are welcome to wallow in your proven mediocrity.
Sorry, but you do that all on your own and to yourself. No one here has any reason
to be in the least jealous of your little goldfish bowl’s echo chamber.
Yeah, right - coming from a loser.
Nah, the problem you have Tommy is that I’ve not tried to brag as much as you, so
you’re stuck in the “absence of evidence is not evidence of absence” logical trap.
Plus even when I’ve dropped clues, you’ve been unable and/or unwilling to
comprehend and/or acknowledge their significance. Your loss, not mine.
BTW, a retired friend sent me these two links recently; first is an illustration
whereas the second is a quasi-analysis…a bit overly broad, but nevertheless
< https://www.bogleheads.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=396981&sid=7b59bcd7747813e9852733284ece221f>
< https://bowtiedbull.substack.com/p/going-through-levels-of-wealth>
Quick reads both.
[quote]
Common tells of the Upper Middle Class belief system
* Absolute obsession with being seen as important...
* Insecurity...
* Passive aggressive behavior...Constant emphasis on how “high they are up the chain”.
* Obsession with “comp”....common for them to prod and try to figure out how much you make...
[/quote]
YAAAWWWWWNNNNNNNN...
“Cry harder”, Tommy.
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Your attempt at psychoanalysis is PATHETIC, Lyin' Asshole.
[quote]
* Absolute obsession with being seen as important...
* Insecurity...
* Passive aggressive behavior...Constant emphasis on how “high they are up the chain”.
* Obsession with “comp”....common for them to prod and try to figure out how much you make...
[/quote]
Yes, it is.
Nope: <https://bowtiedbull.substack.com/p/going-through-levels-of-wealth>
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Shoot the messenger much?
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The bottom line is the same: you just live a miserable life jealous of others
who have succeeded where you have failed.
YA instance of a (self-alleged) RSG “multimillionaire” being vain & bitter.
Hardly. I am neither vain nor bitter.
"...he vainly whined, so bitterly that his flecks of spittle tarnished the basement's linoleum floor." /s
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On the contrary, I have tried to pass the secret of my success to you libtards and have
been met with nothing but scorn and derision (which is why you dudes aren't successful).
Incorrect: your so-called 'secrets' weren't secrets at all, nor even about how to be successful
in business. They were just a couple of already-known strategies for personal income taxes.
FYI, it is hard to honestly claim that the disinclination was scornful/derisive when it was explained
as due to individual circumstances (e.g. insufficient age for RMDs, employer benefits) which was
what made them de-optimal strategies to be employed at present.
Perhaps what you're thinking of as derision was in how it was noted that you had exaggerated
on your claimed magnitude of savings? Or how your misrepresenting a mere two tips as "many"?
Nope. Attention to Detail is a time-tested attribute for success in life & business: try it sometime.
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Naturally, Tommy has provided zero quantified metrics for what anyone is
supposed to be jealous of him for. Perhaps it will be stomach acidity level?
You continually obliviate on it - that is ample evidence of jealousness.
Nah, it has merely become sport to remind you of your "emperor has no clothes" personal failure.
Because no one forced you to make your 'multimillionaire' claim, yet you did so & repeated that
many times. Your attempt to rub that in the face of others has backfired on you because you've
not ever substantiated your allegation, which is why it, like you, rings empty and hollow.
Hey Lyin' Asshole, you present a PHONY E-Trade transaction and you QUESTION my veracity???
Go back to the drawing board, bozo.
Oh, look: Tommy is back to that old diversion attempt again, only this time he's tried to move from
claiming it was a "very suspicious trade confirmation" to now alleging it was a "PHONY" one.
No proof again, of course.
"Go ahead and complain that this isn't good enough, but do so by leading by example, by posting your own
purchase order record of CVX to show what the minimum disclosure resolution is that you want to see."
Instead of leading by example, Tommy vainly just posts bitter another "Grandpa Simpson" rant.
LOL! Hey Lyin' Asshole, your phony Etrade confirmation shows a price of ONE DOLLAR and NOTHING
for the quantity. Now, are you claiming that is a REAL confirmation????
And no account number either: you're just confused because the redaction of that information
was done as white on transparent, which your image viewer represented as white on white: try
opening the file in a better GIF browser/editor to better reveal where the redactions were made.
Or ask nicely what contrasting color you want it changed to .. perhaps "cowardly Tommy yellow streak"?
Since that would be too much work for Tommy, here's an update of the substantiation, with the
redactions done in Tommy Yellow so that he can't legitimately complain about not being able to
<https://www.huntzinger.com/usenet/2022-TQQQ_redacted.gif>
Meantime, back on 3 Feb, we were told: “Prices have ALREADY factored those increases in and
company profits have ABSORBED those increases, so the market is GREEN-LIGHTED for an upside
move. In other words, we have already seen the market BOTTOM.”
But it appears that the Markets have had a difficult opinion of “bottom” than Tommy …
DJIA is currently down -800, of which -500 was just today. Similarly, Tommy’s favorite of TQQQ
was at $25.52 on the 3rd, but closed today at $22.35.
TQQQ closed out the week today at $21.77
Naturally, Tommy's in hiding, having called "BOTTOM" three weeks ago.
My, My! We haven't heard from the Lyin' Asshole on this topic for SOME TIME!
I wonder why?
Been busy doing other stuff. Roof replacement this past week.
Pics posted!
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Could it be because TQQQ closed yesterday at $36.82?
When it was over $80/share just eighteen months ago? Nah!
Hey you IDIOT - that is not what you were saying a couple of months ago.
Gosh, that’s an amazingly vague statement. You’ll have to provide
the exact quote, along with GG URL a link to the thread for context.
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My gain on TQQQ is now over FIFTY PERCENT!
My paper gain is bigger.
You can take your "paper gain" and wipe your ASS with it as that is ALL that it is good for!
Nah, it’s valuable enough just in how it makes that vein on your forehead pop.
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All that the Lyin' Asshole has to show is his obviously FAKE TRADE!
Still has more substantiation than your claim.
It is FAKE and you KNOW IT! I posted my trade when I made it.
How MUCH do you want to bet that it is FAKE?
Well, let’s see: just how many shares of TQQQ did you buy in total?
And how much cash are you willing to put into a third party escrow,
so as to deny either party the ability to Welch on any such wager?
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And you libtards have been WAY BEHIND THE CURVE on everything else,
calling for a market pullback, saying we should wait until even 2024 to
reenter the market!
Not what was actually said now, wasn’t it?
Pretty much was, asshole.
Nope. My comment was second half 2023, possibly into 2024.
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Especially since the historical trend is for the market bottom to be months after
the last Fed rate hike, and the Fed is coy on if they’re going to hike again later
this month or not, thanks to the stronger than expected jobs report last Friday.
How much have you LOST with that bit of so-called "intelligence?"
Less than you.
Pop that forehead vein again Tommy!
LOL! Hey Lyin' Asshole, you continue to make proclamations based on exactly ZERO evidence.
Nah, I’ve previously mentioned some of my sources, such as Ed Hyman.
I’m also not inclined to divulge information from advisers I’m paying for.
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The market has bottomed based on the major indices. This was confirmed by
the latest strong jobs report.
Except for how that jobs report is causing the Fed to deliberate on making yet
another interest rate hike later this month, and as we all know, rate hikes are
headwinds against the Equities markets. “Don’t Fight the Fed”, fool.
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I am sitting pretty while you are fretting over when to reenter the market.
Where “sitting pretty” means just what, specifically?
Plus you shouldn’t spout opinions when you’re not fully informed: I merely had
mentioned that that I had pulled some profits out back during the “melt up”, in
anticipation of Market corrections to then reinvest. If that approach is so foolish,
then why is Berkshire Hathaway holding larger cash right now too? It’s not like
< https://www.investopedia.com/berkshire-hathaway-annual-meeting-2023-7494837>
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All of your predictions are BUST, which is why you AREN'T a multimillionaire.
First, one doesn’t need to have perfect prognostication to do well.
Second, you’ve failed to substantiate your above claim.
Third, you’ve never substantiated your own wealth brag.
Tommy is having rampant personal insecurities rants…again.
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At least you can wipe your ass with them...
More like wiping the floor with you.
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BTW, I am willing to bet you AS MUCH as I invested in TQQQ - nothing like doubling my investment!
Given how you were previously unwilling to risk even $20 on a wager,
this would then have to be less than one (1) share of TQQQ.
-hh
And a little old "bump" for Tommy, so that he can reply to the correct thread.
Insofar as TQQQ, its currently at just ~$51/share, so its well below its 2021 peak of nearly $90/share,
and we have no particular assurances that Tommy didn't already bail out long ago on his alleged
$22-ish purchase, …
..since Tommy was notoriously loud on his alledged “momentum” speculation trades.
Was reminded of this today when reading a Morningstar retrospective, which contained
[quote]
…Warren Buffett’s advice on guru forecasts: “We have long felt that the only value
of stock forecasters is to make fortunetellers look good. Even now, Charlie [Munger]
and I continue to believe that short-term market forecasts are poison and should be
kept locked up in a safe place, away from children and also from grown-ups who
behave in the market like children.”
[/quote]
< https://stocks.apple.com/A2ZrsXSkNR7C_sZtE9mC0QQ>
Yup, that last line was the kicker.
Some news yesterday reminded me to come look at how TQQQ doing.
Sure, its up from its bottom (where I bought at a better price than Tommy)
but at $58/share, TQQQ is still 30 points below its November 2021 peak.

And FYI, yesterday's news was that Japan's "Nikkei 225" Market Index has
risen above 38,000 and despite a recession, there's apparently a chance of
it continuing and no longer be underwater from its October 1989 peak high
of ~38,900. If that were to happen, that Market would have been negative
for "only" 34 years (longer than most retirements).

Thus ends today's lesson in market risks for self-proclaimed 'multi-millionaires'
who like to claim that 'Markets Always Go Up'. Sure, they eventually do, but their
timeline may be longer than your remaining lifespan, because the corollary is
that Markets can remain irrational for longer than you can remain liquid.

-hh

bruce bowser
2023-02-16 20:52:02 UTC
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Well, after yesterday's correction, seems about right to pull on Tommy's
chain again on how well his 'TQQQ' is doing.
Meantime...
Probably time to check these again; midday 22 Aug 22
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[YTD's were as of 19 May 2022]
BCE (DIV 5.3%) +2.3% Aug --> -2.81%
BBY (DIV 3.5%) -23% Aug --> -20.43%
CVX (DIV 3.5%) +40% Aug --> +33.69%
ED (DIV 3.5%) +12% Aug --> +18.11%
ENB (DIV 6%) +16% Aug --> +13.26%
JNJ (DIV 2.4%) +3.3% Aug --> -0.32%
LMT (DIV 2.6%) +22% Aug --> +25.64%
NVS (DIV 2.5%) +1.8% Aug --> -2.74%
VTRS (DIV 4.5%) -14% Aug --> -22.55%
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Total portfolio slice is still net positive 'YTD', by +6.1%, which contrasts ever
so slightly to the likes of Tommy's TQQQ being down by a mere -66%.
YTD is still positive, at +4.65% whereas TQQQ at $32.4 is in the red at -62% ... although
to be fair, that is a four point recovery since May. Of course, this +4.65% is before
dividends (roughly +2.5%), so one could say that it is effectively at +7% YTD.
Been way too long since reporting back on this...
BCE (DIV 5.3%) -14%
BBY (DIV 3.5%) -18%
CVX (DIV 3.5%) +44%
ED (DIV 3.5%) +13%
ENB (DIV 6%) +1%
JNJ (DIV 2.4%) +5%
LMT (DIV 2.6%) +39%
NVS (DIV 2.5%) +4%
VTRS (DIV 4.5%) -18%
Total portfolio slice is still net positive 'YTD', by +5.54% on Equities values...plus, of
course, the dividends spun off...roughly another +3.77%, so approx. +9% paper return.
+7.34% appreciation, plus the dividends, so roughly a 10%-11% YoY return.
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Apologies, forgot to include the comparison back to TQQQ for Tommy.
TQQQ (close yesterday) at $18.27 ... down -17% since Tommy's claimed purchase of it
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.sport.golf/c/ooGucHaSsFI/m/DpkT6VenAwAJ>
Tommy's silent, of course, as TQQQ's back under $22/share.
-hh
Well, let's look at how Lyin' Asshole's strategy played out.
I figured you'd crawl back as soon as you were 'safely' above water.
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The Fed announced today a 0.25% rate hike and indicated they were close to the end of rate hikes.
"The Fed Raises Rates a Quarter Point and Signals More Ahead
America’s central bank has shifted into a new phase, raising rates
more slowly as inflation shows signs of moderating."
<https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/01/business/federal-reserve-interest-rates.html>
It includes a statement of "...“a couple more” rate increases..." too.
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This is what I was anticipating, and the market responded accordingly.
TQQQ is now at 24.39, giving me about an 11% gain in less than 90 days - not bad.
So? Does that mean that you sold today?
So, you STATED that I had a 20% LOSS w/o asking me if I had sold!
"Tommy's silent, of course, as TQQQ's back under $22/share. "
Plus Tommy's silent on if he's bailed out of TQQQ with just his 11% gain (before STCG taxes).
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WHY don't you maintain the same standards????
Sorry, but I *exceed* the standards that you use, by actually substantiating statements.
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More importantly, the trajectory going forward is much more likely to be up than down.
Yes, that's what the Fed said: "...“a couple more” rate increases...".
Or did you mean to suggest something else?
Hey Lyin' Asshole, I'm going to give you the MOST IMPORTANT piece of advice yet: the Fed is near
the end of their rate increases and the market KNOWS that. Prices have ALREADY factored those
increases in and company profits have ABSORBED those increases, so the market is GREEN-LIGHTED
for an upside move. In other words, we have already seen the market BOTTOM. Is that clear enough
for your peanut-sized brain??????
So you've definitively called the bottom. Does this also mean that you're also saying that there will be
no recession in 2023 either?
Hmmm...
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Meanwhile, the Lyin' Asshole has his thumb up his ass, not knowing what to do, but what else is new?
Golly, looks like Mr. Senile forgot that someone mentioned buying TQQQ in December
Hey LA, did you BUY TQQQ at that price? I DOUBT IT!!!!
<http://huntzinger.com/usenet/2022-TQQQ_redacted.gif>
Granted, it is redacted, but it is nevertheless sufficient to show a TQQQ purchase in December, at
a price whose first digit is a "1" instead of a "2". Go ahead and complain that this isn't good enough,
but do so by leading by example, by posting your own purchase order record of CVX to show what
the minimum disclosure resolution is that you want to see.
Still waiting.
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[quote]
12/27/22 update: TQQQ low & close: $16.72 & $16.84
Looks like I can expect some paperwork in the mail from a certain limit order...
[/quote]
Hmmm...that suggests something north of +40%, doesn't it?
Not for you because you DIDN'T BUY IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Except for how any TQQQ purchase below $20.00 versus your $24.39 price point
would be at least a +22% gain.
If PP = $19.50 --> +25%
If PP = $19.00 --> +28%
If PP = $18.50 --> +32%
If PP = $18.00 --> +36%
If PP = $17.50 --> +39%
If PP = $17.00 --> +43%
If PP = $16.50 --> +48%
etc
Meantime, today's jobs report was too strong, so Markets are dropping because they know
that that's meat for the Federal Reserve to keep on increasing rates for longer = a Tommy oops!
Without nitpicking, ...
This would be the part where Tommy tries to ignore that his call that the Feds have ended making
rate hikes is looking quite incorrect at the end of last week. Plus Tommy's silent on if he's bailed
out of TQQQ with just a 11% gain (before STCG taxes).
... its good to see that you followed my advice FOR ONCE!
Nah, the TQQQ holdings are insignificant: they're worth the entertainment value of seeing you
squirm, because no matter what brag you try to make, you know someone else is doing better than you.
The Lyin' Asshole's string of lies is unbroken: WHEN did I say that the Fed had ENDED their rate hikes?
"....indicated they were close to the end of rate hikes."
That's in conjunction and context with how you've not denied having also called the bottom already, as well as
the elaborations on how a bottom occurs only a few months before the last rate hikes. Together, it points to
the Fed's March meeting as being the last rate hike as being what you meant - - at the time you said it.
Naturally, now that the Fed has clearly said otherwise, you're trying to change what you meant, particularly
particularly since the June and even May Fed meeting dates are already too far into 2023 for a reasonable
expectation of a Fed rate cut occurring 2023, because any sort of Fed rates hold duration would be negated.
Meantime, you're silent on if you already bailed out of TQQQ at its 11% gain point (before STCG taxes).
Ditto on you providing clarity on if you're also saying that there will be no recession in 2023 either.
As well as your mystery purchase record on CVX....oh, gosh on INTC too (purchased claimed prior to 11 Jan 22)
31 Dec 21: $48.94**
11 Jan 22: $52.46
11 Feb 23: $27.80
** - adjusted close; lowest daily non-adjusted low for 10/31/21 through 1/11/22 was $49.18
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Hey Asshole, at least you ADMIT that I didn't say the Fed was DONE with rate hikes.
There are, at least, two more rate hikes in the works, PROBABLY (note I am not declaring this) 0.25% each.
Oh, so it’s “at least two”? That’s what’s now supposed to be “close”? This pushes out the first
meeting with no expected rate hike to mid-June, so where does that now place your bottom,
for which you’ve previously said “I am saying that the market is going thru a bottoming process
this quarter.”, which ends in just 51 days? Trying to copy my 1H comment?
So, now you are arguing about what "close" means. Sorry, but your sorry ass
doesn't deserve an education in that.
Nope, just illustrating how you’re trying to [use] a rubber ruler…again. And got caught…again.
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We have ALREADY had our recession which you profoundly waffled about.
No, NBER is the authority on that, and they’ve not made that call. Sorry.
Sorry, but we WERE.
Nope. No matter what you want to believe, NBER has not made that determination.
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I have ALREADY put you on notice that I AM NOT informing you of all my trades, …
Non sequitur, as you’ve been on notice yourself that you can’t make any claims on any
trades that you’ve not posted prior adequate notice. Thus, you’ll no longer be able to
cherry-pick from your entire portfolio to find a winner to claim…unless you choose to
disclose your entire portfolio, of course.
You are a PIECE OF WORK, Asshole! I owe you exactly NOTHING, which is exactly
what you DESERVE. You are a loser living a life of quiet desperation that looks at
diminishing those that have done better than you.
Golly, that reflection you see of yourself in the mirror really is quite ugly, isn’t it?
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… just as YOU are not doing the same (and, now, declaring that you bought TQQQ
with a very suspicious trade confirmation).
Nah, you’ve already been told to provide an example of your own trades with the level
of detail you’re trying to complain about not getting from others…and have not done so.
Silence from Tommy.
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Let's face it: you're jealous of my success and want to belittle it at every opportunity.
So be it - you are welcome to wallow in your proven mediocrity.
Sorry, but you do that all on your own and to yourself. No one here has any reason
to be in the least jealous of your little goldfish bowl’s echo chamber.
Yeah, right - coming from a loser.
Nah, the problem you have Tommy is that I’ve not tried to brag as much as you, so
you’re stuck in the “absence of evidence is not evidence of absence” logical trap.
Plus even when I’ve dropped clues, you’ve been unable and/or unwilling to
comprehend and/or acknowledge their significance. Your loss, not mine.
BTW, a retired friend sent me these two links recently; first is an illustration
whereas the second is a quasi-analysis…a bit overly broad, but nevertheless
< https://www.bogleheads.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=396981&sid=7b59bcd7747813e9852733284ece221f>
< https://bowtiedbull.substack.com/p/going-through-levels-of-wealth>
Quick reads both.
[quote]
Common tells of the Upper Middle Class belief system
* Absolute obsession with being seen as important...
* Insecurity...
* Passive aggressive behavior...Constant emphasis on how “high they are up the chain”.
* Obsession with “comp”....common for them to prod and try to figure out how much you make...
[/quote]
YAAAWWWWWNNNNNNNN...
“Cry harder”, Tommy.
Post by Tommy
Your attempt at psychoanalysis is PATHETIC, Lyin' Asshole.
[quote]
* Absolute obsession with being seen as important...
* Insecurity...
* Passive aggressive behavior...Constant emphasis on how “high they are up the chain”.
* Obsession with “comp”....common for them to prod and try to figure out how much you make...
[/quote]
Yes, it is.
Post by -hh
Shoot the messenger much?
Post by Tommy
The bottom line is the same: you just live a miserable life jealous of others
who have succeeded where you have failed.
YA instance of a (self-alleged) RSG “multimillionaire” being vain & bitter.
Hardly. I am neither vain nor bitter.
Nor EVER telling the truth.
Tom Elam
2022-03-23 15:05:19 UTC
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Time to check the performance of ARNA relative to TQQQ, which Tommy
recommended instead of ARNA...
YTD / ARNA: unch. ($93.2 to $93.2 interday)
YTD / TQQQ: -20% ($170 to $135 interday)
Next up: "catch a falling knife" recommendations!
Time to check my move from ATT to Chevron that you poo-pooed as "oil stocks are too volatile".
At times it has been, because ya know ... market conditions do change.
Especially over a 20 year period.
So just when was that comment made? Got cite?
Gosh, golly ... no response from old Tom.
BTW, even checking on 'hh' and 'oil', there were only three hits, one of which
was barely relevant at all, which noted that with the onset of CoVid and lockdowns
that oil dropped.
Post by -hh
Meantime, the recommendation for portfolio adjustments for a higher inflation
period have been trending towards energy, commodities, etc: here's just one
such SME calling this out from an interview last week, which literally was just
<https://wealthtrack.com/how-to-reposition-your-portfolio-for-a-new-higher-inflation-era-with-top-strategist-rich-bernstein/>
FYI, the person calling for this is Richard Bernstein ... perhaps you've heard of him?
Maybe Tom would be more interested in hearing about his FL hero, DeSantis: his reported
net worth in 2018 was $283,604 and then $291,449 at the end of 2019, and then $348,832
at the end of 2020 ... but has suddenly zoomed to be reportedly worth $52M today, just 15
months later: his official 2021 EoY filing should be quite interesting...stay tuned.
<https://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/politics/fl-ne-nsf-desantis-net-worth-20210621-xxqfzxbt5zeufkluweusvgwuny-story.html>
Post by -hh
Post by Tom Elam
July 2, 2000
ATT 30.08
Chevron 88.31
March 18, 2002
ATT 23.22
Chevron 161.73
Think you probably mean 2020 & 2022, not 2000 & 2002.
Post by Tom Elam
I'm bought Chevron for the 6% dividend yield that has dropped as the stock price increased.
Got cite? Because the relevant prior mention of CVX was from Sep 15, 2019, when
you claimed you were buying it at $124 because the attack on Saudi. It failed to pan out
as you had hoped .. which you were reminded of. No mentions of "CVX" in 2020 by anyone.
Even a very broad search on just 'Chevron' instead of 'CVX' doesn't show any posts prior to this
one since in 2021 or 2020. Next most recent one was from August 2015, and was about a
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.sport.golf/search?q=Chevron>
Post by -hh
Post by Tom Elam
The point? Don't listen to stock advice from people who live in small New Jersey houses.
If they were any good at it they would not be in a small house or New Jersey.
Because Tommy can only 'pick on' the one property that he's aware of that we own?
Post by Tom Elam
I listen to my broker. He lives in a $1~ million 5,000+ square foot home...
Paid for by the fees he charges you ... too bad you don't live in a $1M 5K house yourself.
Post by Tom Elam
Did I tell you that just I traded the 2019 Insight for a new Accord Hybrid Touring? Paid cash. :)
Is that supposed to be more impressive than claiming that all of one's Porsche purchases
were done as cash, and also also without any trade-in to reduce the outlay? /s
-hh
Got a cite for that supposed 2019 post? I have purchased 3 lots of CVX: 7/21/20, 6/2/21 and 8/27/21. None in 2019 and all 3 well below $124. One was $92 and another $99, the third $107.
-hh
2022-03-23 19:17:04 UTC
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Post by -hh
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Post by -hh
Time to check the performance of ARNA relative to TQQQ, which Tommy
recommended instead of ARNA...
YTD / ARNA: unch. ($93.2 to $93.2 interday)
YTD / TQQQ: -20% ($170 to $135 interday)
Next up: "catch a falling knife" recommendations!
Time to check my move from ATT to Chevron that you poo-pooed as "oil stocks are too volatile".
At times it has been, because ya know ... market conditions do change.
Especially over a 20 year period.
So just when was that comment made? Got cite?
Gosh, golly ... no response from old Tom.
BTW, even checking on 'hh' and 'oil', there were only three hits, one of which
was barely relevant at all, which noted that with the onset of CoVid and lockdowns
that oil dropped.
Post by -hh
Meantime, the recommendation for portfolio adjustments for a higher inflation
period have been trending towards energy, commodities, etc: here's just one
such SME calling this out from an interview last week, which literally was just
<https://wealthtrack.com/how-to-reposition-your-portfolio-for-a-new-higher-inflation-era-with-top-strategist-rich-bernstein/>
FYI, the person calling for this is Richard Bernstein ... perhaps you've heard of him?
Maybe Tom would be more interested in hearing about his FL hero, DeSantis: his reported
net worth in 2018 was $283,604 and then $291,449 at the end of 2019, and then $348,832
at the end of 2020 ... but has suddenly zoomed to be reportedly worth $52M today, just 15
months later: his official 2021 EoY filing should be quite interesting...stay tuned.
<https://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/politics/fl-ne-nsf-desantis-net-worth-20210621-xxqfzxbt5zeufkluweusvgwuny-story.html>
Post by -hh
Post by Tom Elam
July 2, 2000
ATT 30.08
Chevron 88.31
March 18, 2002
ATT 23.22
Chevron 161.73
Think you probably mean 2020 & 2022, not 2000 & 2002.
Post by Tom Elam
I'm bought Chevron for the 6% dividend yield that has dropped as the stock price increased.
Got cite? Because the relevant prior mention of CVX was from Sep 15, 2019, when
you claimed you were buying it at $124 because the attack on Saudi. It failed to pan out
as you had hoped .. which you were reminded of. No mentions of "CVX" in 2020 by anyone.
Even a very broad search on just 'Chevron' instead of 'CVX' doesn't show any posts prior to this
one since in 2021 or 2020. Next most recent one was from August 2015, and was about a
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.sport.golf/search?q=Chevron>
Post by -hh
Post by Tom Elam
The point? Don't listen to stock advice from people who live in small New Jersey houses.
If they were any good at it they would not be in a small house or New Jersey.
Because Tommy can only 'pick on' the one property that he's aware of that we own?
Post by Tom Elam
I listen to my broker. He lives in a $1~ million 5,000+ square foot home...
Paid for by the fees he charges you ... too bad you don't live in a $1M 5K house yourself.
Post by Tom Elam
Did I tell you that just I traded the 2019 Insight for a new Accord Hybrid Touring? Paid cash. :)
Is that supposed to be more impressive than claiming that all of one's Porsche purchases
were done as cash, and also also without any trade-in to reduce the outlay? /s
Got a cite for that supposed 2019 post? I have purchased 3 lots of CVX: 7/21/20,
6/2/21 and 8/27/21. None in 2019 and all 3 well below $124. One was $92 and
another $99, the third $107.
Sure:
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.sport.golf/c/XQeZj9VNUoU/m/iPQ93xXWAwAJ>

and as mentioned in my immediately prior post, it was talking to Tom Seim here in
rsg, not you in csma.


-hh
Tom Elam
2022-03-23 14:48:34 UTC
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Post by -hh
Time to check the performance of ARNA relative to TQQQ, which Tommy
recommended instead of ARNA...
YTD / ARNA: unch. ($93.2 to $93.2 interday)
YTD / TQQQ: -20% ($170 to $135 interday)
Next up: "catch a falling knife" recommendations!
Time to check my move from ATT to Chevron that you poo-pooed as "oil stocks are too volatile".
At times it has been, because ya know ... market conditions do change.
Especially over a 20 year period.
So just when was that comment made? Got cite?
Meantime, the recommendation for portfolio adjustments for a higher inflation
period have been trending towards energy, commodities, etc: here's just one
such SME calling this out from an interview last week, which literally was just
<https://wealthtrack.com/how-to-reposition-your-portfolio-for-a-new-higher-inflation-era-with-top-strategist-rich-bernstein/>
FYI, the person calling for this is Richard Bernstein ... perhaps you've heard of him?
Post by Tom Elam
July 2, 2000
ATT 30.08
Chevron 88.31
March 18, 2002
ATT 23.22
Chevron 161.73
Think you probably mean 2020 & 2022, not 2000 & 2002.
Post by Tom Elam
I'm bought Chevron for the 6% dividend yield that has dropped as the stock price increased.
Got cite? Because the relevant prior mention of CVX was from Sep 15, 2019, when
you claimed you were buying it at $124 because the attack on Saudi. It failed to pan out
as you had hoped .. which you were reminded of. No mentions of "CVX" in 2020 by anyone.
Post by Tom Elam
The point? Don't listen to stock advice from people who live in small New Jersey houses.
If they were any good at it they would not be in a small house or New Jersey.
Because Tommy can only 'pick on' the one property that he's aware of that we own?
Post by Tom Elam
I listen to my broker. He lives in a $1~ million 5,000+ square foot home...
Paid for by the fees he charges you ... too bad you don't live in a $1M 5K house yourself.
Post by Tom Elam
Did I tell you that just I traded the 2019 Insight for a new Accord Hybrid Touring? Paid cash. :)
Is that supposed to be more impressive than claiming that all of one's Porsche purchases
were done as cash, and also also without any trade-in to reduce the outlay? /s
-hh
I was floundering on my own until I hooked up with him. He has taken us from well under a million to well over 3. We have spent most of the RMD money that was not profits put back in the 401k. Just this year I started investing some of the surplus. I do not begrudge a penny he has earned from my accounts. The fact that he has done well says he has been successful for others over the last 40 years or so. You have a problem listening to people who are good at their professions?

I could easily afford a larger house, but there is just two of us. 3000+ square feet is plenty.
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