Discussion:
Par 5's
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Colleyville Alan
2003-08-23 03:44:56 UTC
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No doubt about it, the thing that is killing my scores is par 5's! Good
players are under par for par 5's while par 5's are my worst (par 3's
are my best). I am more than one stroke over par on average only for par
5's.
I assume that when I start playing par 5's properly I will be ready for
the Hooters Tour!
Now that they have a Hooters in Grapevine, we'll have our own Hooters Tour
at RSG-DFW.
Doug Main
2003-08-23 04:22:29 UTC
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No doubt about it, the thing that is killing my scores is par 5's! Good
players are under par for par 5's while par 5's are my worst (par 3's
are my best). I am more than one stroke over par on average only for par
5's.
I assume that when I start playing par 5's properly I will be ready for
the Hooters Tour!
The first thing you can do to solve your par 5 problems is to stop using
an apostrophe to pluralize. While I understand that the big networks do
this from time to time IT IS WRONG. The plural of par 5 is par 5s. An
apostrophe is required to indicate possessive (Frostback's new driver.)
or to indicate a contraction (Frostback can't [can not] hit his new
driver.) or some letters or numbers eliminated from an abbreviation
(Frostback has not hit a par 5 in two since the '80s.) The apostrophe
is NEVER used to pluralize: TV's, pro's, VCR's tee's....all WRONG.

Now, with your grammar and punctuation corrected, you can move on to the
issue of par five blowups. I've experienced this too, and I think it
comes from trying to emulate the pros. Better to try to turn long par
5s into short par 3s. On a 540 yard hole, for example, 2 smooth 5 woods
(225 each let's say) would leave a short wedge. Instead you (we)
probably hit driver into the fringe, try to get a 3 wood all the way to
the front and snap hook it into the trees, chip out, hit an 8 iron wide
into the beach, skull one over the green, chip back and three putt.
That's what I seem to do.

Cheers,
--
Doug Main
"It's never too late to have a happy childhood."
Peter Strauss
2003-08-23 05:30:01 UTC
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Post by Doug Main
No doubt about it, the thing that is killing my scores is par 5's! Good
players are under par for par 5's while par 5's are my worst (par 3's
are my best). I am more than one stroke over par on average only for par
5's.
I assume that when I start playing par 5's properly I will be ready for
the Hooters Tour!
The first thing you can do to solve your par 5 problems is to stop using
an apostrophe to pluralize. While I understand that the big networks do
this from time to time IT IS WRONG. The plural of par 5 is par 5s. An
apostrophe is required to indicate possessive (Frostback's new driver.)
or to indicate a contraction (Frostback can't [can not] hit his new
driver.) or some letters or numbers eliminated from an abbreviation
(Frostback has not hit a par 5 in two since the '80s.) The apostrophe
is NEVER used to pluralize: TV's, pro's, VCR's tee's....all WRONG.
cf: http://www.apostrophe.fsnet.co.uk/
Doug Main
2003-08-23 19:21:52 UTC
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Post by Peter Strauss
Post by Doug Main
The first thing you can do to solve your par 5 problems is to stop using
an apostrophe to pluralize. While I understand that the big networks do
this from time to time IT IS WRONG. The plural of par 5 is par 5s. An
apostrophe is required to indicate possessive (Frostback's new driver.)
or to indicate a contraction (Frostback can't [can not] hit his new
driver.) or some letters or numbers eliminated from an abbreviation
(Frostback has not hit a par 5 in two since the '80s.) The apostrophe
is NEVER used to pluralize: TV's, pro's, VCR's tee's....all WRONG.
cf: http://www.apostrophe.fsnet.co.uk/
AMEN! Perhaps this URL could be sent to EVERY school and household in
the US and Canada, alerting teachers, students, ad writers, sign makers,
billboard designers, tv graphic producers and all of humanity in general
about the rampant abuse of the apostrophe that is permeating
civilization. Forget the stupid whales!! Let's save the apostrophe!!
--
Doug Main
"It's never too late to have a happy childhood."
Peter Strauss
2003-08-23 22:37:26 UTC
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Post by Doug Main
Post by Peter Strauss
Post by Doug Main
The first thing you can do to solve your par 5 problems is to stop using
an apostrophe to pluralize. While I understand that the big networks do
this from time to time IT IS WRONG. The plural of par 5 is par 5s. An
apostrophe is required to indicate possessive (Frostback's new driver.)
or to indicate a contraction (Frostback can't [can not] hit his new
driver.) or some letters or numbers eliminated from an abbreviation
(Frostback has not hit a par 5 in two since the '80s.) The apostrophe
is NEVER used to pluralize: TV's, pro's, VCR's tee's....all WRONG.
cf: http://www.apostrophe.fsnet.co.uk/
AMEN! Perhaps this URL could be sent to EVERY school and household in
the US and Canada, alerting teachers, students, ad writers, sign makers,
billboard designers, tv graphic producers and all of humanity in general
about the rampant abuse of the apostrophe that is permeating
civilization. Forget the stupid whales!! Let's save the apostrophe!!
Bumper sticker idea, Doug:

"Abuse an apostrophe, go to jail"

Whattya think? Will it sell?
(I'd put it right next to "Play an accordion, go to jail" -- that one
had me laughing for miles.)
Douglas T. (Doug) Massey
2003-08-29 23:17:13 UTC
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Post by Peter Strauss
Post by Doug Main
No doubt about it, the thing that is killing my scores is par 5's! Good
players are under par for par 5's while par 5's are my worst (par 3's
are my best). I am more than one stroke over par on average only for par
5's.
I assume that when I start playing par 5's properly I will be ready for
the Hooters Tour!
The first thing you can do to solve your par 5 problems is to stop using
an apostrophe to pluralize. While I understand that the big networks do
this from time to time IT IS WRONG. The plural of par 5 is par 5s. An
apostrophe is required to indicate possessive (Frostback's new driver.)
or to indicate a contraction (Frostback can't [can not] hit his new
driver.) or some letters or numbers eliminated from an abbreviation
(Frostback has not hit a par 5 in two since the '80s.) The apostrophe
is NEVER used to pluralize: TV's, pro's, VCR's tee's....all WRONG.
cf: http://www.apostrophe.fsnet.co.uk/
I like this one better:

http://angryflower.com/aposter.html

:-)

Doug
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j
2003-08-23 15:48:49 UTC
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Seems your knowledge of proper puncuation hasn't helped yer golf game......
:-) GRIN
Jeff
Post by Doug Main
No doubt about it, the thing that is killing my scores is par 5's! Good
players are under par for par 5's while par 5's are my worst (par 3's
are my best). I am more than one stroke over par on average only for par
5's.
I assume that when I start playing par 5's properly I will be ready for
the Hooters Tour!
The first thing you can do to solve your par 5 problems is to stop using
an apostrophe to pluralize. While I understand that the big networks do
this from time to time IT IS WRONG. The plural of par 5 is par 5s. An
apostrophe is required to indicate possessive (Frostback's new driver.)
or to indicate a contraction (Frostback can't [can not] hit his new
driver.) or some letters or numbers eliminated from an abbreviation
(Frostback has not hit a par 5 in two since the '80s.) The apostrophe
is NEVER used to pluralize: TV's, pro's, VCR's tee's....all WRONG.
Now, with your grammar and punctuation corrected, you can move on to the
issue of par five blowups. I've experienced this too, and I think it
comes from trying to emulate the pros. Better to try to turn long par
5s into short par 3s. On a 540 yard hole, for example, 2 smooth 5 woods
(225 each let's say) would leave a short wedge. Instead you (we)
probably hit driver into the fringe, try to get a 3 wood all the way to
the front and snap hook it into the trees, chip out, hit an 8 iron wide
into the beach, skull one over the green, chip back and three putt.
That's what I seem to do.
Cheers,
--
Doug Main
"It's never too late to have a happy childhood."
Chuck Scappaticci
2003-08-23 16:09:51 UTC
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Exactly. I use my driver on the par 5s, but try and hit it a little
easier! Here at 6000 ft. altitude that's about 260yds which leaves
typically about 280yds to the hole. I 200yd 4 iron and I'm a sand wedge
from the pin ... Sometimes you just have to go for it though .....
Post by j
Seems your knowledge of proper puncuation hasn't helped yer golf game......
:-) GRIN
Jeff
Post by Doug Main
No doubt about it, the thing that is killing my scores is par 5's! Good
players are under par for par 5's while par 5's are my worst (par 3's
are my best). I am more than one stroke over par on average only for par
5's.
I assume that when I start playing par 5's properly I will be ready for
the Hooters Tour!
The first thing you can do to solve your par 5 problems is to stop using
an apostrophe to pluralize. While I understand that the big networks do
this from time to time IT IS WRONG. The plural of par 5 is par 5s. An
apostrophe is required to indicate possessive (Frostback's new driver.)
or to indicate a contraction (Frostback can't [can not] hit his new
driver.) or some letters or numbers eliminated from an abbreviation
(Frostback has not hit a par 5 in two since the '80s.) The apostrophe
is NEVER used to pluralize: TV's, pro's, VCR's tee's....all WRONG.
Now, with your grammar and punctuation corrected, you can move on to the
issue of par five blowups. I've experienced this too, and I think it
comes from trying to emulate the pros. Better to try to turn long par
5s into short par 3s. On a 540 yard hole, for example, 2 smooth 5 woods
(225 each let's say) would leave a short wedge. Instead you (we)
probably hit driver into the fringe, try to get a 3 wood all the way to
the front and snap hook it into the trees, chip out, hit an 8 iron wide
into the beach, skull one over the green, chip back and three putt.
That's what I seem to do.
Cheers,
--
Doug Main
"It's never too late to have a happy childhood."
Shag
2003-08-23 21:46:48 UTC
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Post by Doug Main
No doubt about it, the thing that is killing my scores is par 5's! Good
players are under par for par 5's while par 5's are my worst (par 3's
are my best). I am more than one stroke over par on average only for par
5's.
I assume that when I start playing par 5's properly I will be ready for
the Hooters Tour!
The first thing you can do to solve your par 5 problems is to stop using
an apostrophe to pluralize. While I understand that the big networks do
this from time to time IT IS WRONG. The plural of par 5 is par 5s. An
apostrophe is required to indicate possessive (Frostback's new driver.)
or to indicate a contraction (Frostback can't [can not] hit his new
driver.) or some letters or numbers eliminated from an abbreviation
(Frostback has not hit a par 5 in two since the '80s.) The apostrophe
is NEVER used to pluralize: TV's, pro's, VCR's tee's....all WRONG.
Thank you -- this is apet peeve of mine.
Post by Doug Main
Now, with your grammar and punctuation corrected, you can move on to the
issue of par five blowups. I've experienced this too, and I think it
comes from trying to emulate the pros.
As long as we're correcting people, "emulate" means "trying to be like".
So there is no "trying to emulate" someone. These par 5 blowups
come about from emulating the pros. (Or is that "pro's"?)
Peter Strauss
2003-08-24 05:00:41 UTC
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On Sun, 24 Aug 2003 01:04:10 -0000, "The Contrarian"
Post by Doug Main
The first thing you can do to solve your par 5 problems is to stop using
an apostrophe to pluralize. While I understand that the big networks
do
Post by Doug Main
this from time to time IT IS WRONG.
Webster's New World Dictionary, Second College Edition, David B. Guralnik
"Use an apostrophe to indicate the plurals of figures, letters, and words
referrd to as such.
Watch your p's and q's.
There are too many 5's in the number.
There are too many "and's" in your senctence.
It was a party of V.I.P.'s."
Sorry, you'll have to argue with them, not me.
Well! I never!
Tch tch tch.
These colonials---they throw around apostrophes in much the same
manner as tomahawks.
Savaging the language.
Tch tch tch.
They probably think "Fore!" is a number!
Barbarians.
Chris S
2003-08-23 23:23:12 UTC
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Oh Man, here we go again with the grammar police. Lighten up dude.

Chris S.
Post by Doug Main
No doubt about it, the thing that is killing my scores is par 5's! Good
players are under par for par 5's while par 5's are my worst (par 3's
are my best). I am more than one stroke over par on average only for par
5's.
I assume that when I start playing par 5's properly I will be ready for
the Hooters Tour!
The first thing you can do to solve your par 5 problems is to stop using
an apostrophe to pluralize. While I understand that the big networks do
this from time to time IT IS WRONG. The plural of par 5 is par 5s. An
apostrophe is required to indicate possessive (Frostback's new driver.)
or to indicate a contraction (Frostback can't [can not] hit his new
driver.) or some letters or numbers eliminated from an abbreviation
(Frostback has not hit a par 5 in two since the '80s.) The apostrophe
is NEVER used to pluralize: TV's, pro's, VCR's tee's....all WRONG.
Now, with your grammar and punctuation corrected, you can move on to the
issue of par five blowups. I've experienced this too, and I think it
comes from trying to emulate the pros. Better to try to turn long par
5s into short par 3s. On a 540 yard hole, for example, 2 smooth 5 woods
(225 each let's say) would leave a short wedge. Instead you (we)
probably hit driver into the fringe, try to get a 3 wood all the way to
the front and snap hook it into the trees, chip out, hit an 8 iron wide
into the beach, skull one over the green, chip back and three putt.
That's what I seem to do.
Cheers,
--
Doug Main
"It's never too late to have a happy childhood."
Kevin Hill
2003-08-23 04:30:39 UTC
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Par 5's.

It's about playing the right clubs - and being willing to take 180 in,
instead of 130 or 120.

Or even being willing to give up a putting stroke in order to get yourself
setup for a close chip/pitch.

So - if I am on a 575.

I drive 240.
I have 335 to go.
I pull a 5 wood, and hit 220.

I now have 125 to go. 9 iron - maybe 8 iron.

Or - I could hit:
200 yard 5 wood off the tee.
220 yard 5 wood off the fairway.
I now have 155 to the green.

7 iron, maybe 6.

Or -
I hit a 180 yard drive.
Pull a 5 wood for 210
I have 185 to go.

I know that I am not accurate at 185.

So, I pull a 6 iron, and hit it 160.
25 yards to the green. Pitch/Chip to 6 feet. 1 putt.
Or take a bogie two put as punishiment for the poor drive.
No doubt about it, the thing that is killing my scores is par 5's! Good
players are under par for par 5's while par 5's are my worst (par 3's
are my best). I am more than one stroke over par on average only for par
5's.
I assume that when I start playing par 5's properly I will be ready for
the Hooters Tour!
;^)
Oh no, Mrs. F is watching "Last of the Mohicans" again, for the 20,000th
time! Those tapes can really take a lot of play! I haven't got the heart
to tell her that Daniel Day Lewis looks like me these days!
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